Lol...CNN and MSNBC have you guys wrapped around their fingers... you'll believe any lie they want to say, and not only believe it, but live it and dream it too...

Interesting piece of OPINION states how the 25th amendment might be another tool used by Trump opponents
(https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrat-trumps-deranged-behavior-boosting-bill-create-panel-remove-office-112014806.html)

"Under the 25th Amendment, if a majority of the Cabinet, along with the vice president, were to conclude in writing that the president is physically or mentally “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” he or she can be removed and replaced by the vice president. Were the president to challenge such a designation, Congress could still uphold the removal if two-thirds of both the House and Senate vote to do so."

With the strong speculation that VP Pence might have been the "senior WH official" who penned the recent Op-Ed piece, and if Bob Woodward releases the interview tapes proving the comments in his book are in fact true, the 25th could be used for the first time since being penned 51 years ago

The article continues "But Raskin, a former constitutional law professor who is a member of the House Judiciary Committee, noticed that, in additional to empowering a majority of the Cabinet to make the initial designation of incapacity, the 25th Amendment authorizes “such other body as Congress may by law provide” to do so. Yet in the 51 years since the 25th Amendment took effect, Congress has never set up such a body."

This "such other body as Congress may by law provide" might be a preferable route by the Republicans to remove Trump and get a more stable executive in the White House. This could be a move right out of "House of Cards", with Pence driving it.

Later, the Article states "[Raskin] said that one of the more disturbing indications of presidential incapacity is Trump’s penchant for “picking fights with individual citizens; picking fights with leaders of foreign countries; name calling; the insulting, impetuous abuse of people; constant provocations leveled at other people. That strikes me as completely bizarre and deranged behavior.”

I absolutely LOVE how you reveal that in YOUR WORLD,you think that there are ONLY second rate partisan CABLE news channels to get your important information about current events from!!!


you need to check out ABC,NBC,and CBS!
unlike your cable propaganda channels that masquerade as 'news' sources,they only report FACTS...
not partisan propaganda!!

you give hem WAY TOO MUCH credit!!!

Lol...CNN and MSNBC have you guys wrapped around their fingers... you'll believe any lie they want to say, and not only believe it, but live it and dream it too...

I dont know. As unpopular as it is to say, the document we call the constitution was written to be amended and changed, and loyalty to party has long replaced loyalty to the citizens. Im not sure of any VP that would break that 'party loyalty' mandate to oppose the POTUS. I actually heard a congressman talking about considering bringing charges against those who had said anything against the President in his administration, because they work for POTUS, that says it all.

Basha, thanks for the Wiki URL.

If the VP and majority of cabinet send a written statement the pres. Is incapable of performing his duties to congress than the vp assumes the office if pres. Until the pres. Presents his statement that he can perform his duties, than he resumes the office. Than the vp has 4 days to repeat the procedure . There after congress will vote . They need 2/3 to make it stand

"such other body as Congress may by law provide" This portion of the amendment has never been used in its 51 years. If the "body" named by Congress can demonstrate that the President is irrational, the President can be removed.

What you are detailing is the "temporary transfer of powers" that has been used numerous times in the 51 years, such as when a president goes under anesthesia. I believe since Sept 11, the "Cabinet member in the undisclosed location" during the State of the Union is done in accordance to both Article II and the 25 Amendment

Hey, they are even reporting on FoxNews that Trump doesn't have the "temperament" to perform the job, and if it is coming from the Republican mouthpiece Fox News (video on another thread), that sounds like the Republicans might be lining up to call in the relief pitcher. Some Reps might see this as a less disruptive move than going through impeachment

no, what I'm stating is the 25 amendment section 4 . To remove the president you need 2/3 of both houses to vote him being removed. And all this must happen no later than 21 days after receiving written declaration.

The 20 amendment is the one dealing w/ temporary pres. power. Ratified in 1933, get your facts straight . Than you'll have the right to correct someone.

The 20th deals with circumstances around the DEATH of a president.

The 25th is, as I stated correctly, pertains to when the transfer of powers when the President is incapacitated (ie surgery), or when deemed by a body of congress as unable to do the job.


Thanks for playing.

Or you need a majority of the President's cabinet including the Vice-President.

The leaks I am guessing were either Pence or Sessions. If they are Pence it could really mean trouble for President Trump. If they did try to remove him it would cause a major constitutional crisis trying to remove a rightfully elected President, it wouldn't fly with the voters and would backfire on the Democrats.

incapable that means any thing that makes him unable to do his job. It takes 2/3 of both houses of congress to remove the president. The majority of his cabinet including the VP can only start the process . They Do Not have the power to remove him. Just as I stated correctly.