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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2.
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Sat 01/05/19 01:02 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sat 01/05/19 01:04 AM
Trump Says Country Wants Border Wall, But That's Not What Polls Say


"President Donald Trump insisted again Thursday that there’s “so much support” his border wall. But polls contradict him".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-country-wants-border-033117679.html

This is all Trump. He wants the wall and will lie to get it.


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Sat 01/05/19 11:38 AM
Democrats will lie like their gueen Hillary. So does Librals news.

Most Americans want the security of a Border Wall. Those who want the best protection for the US.

Government part shutdown may continue.

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Sat 01/05/19 02:37 PM

Democrats will lie like their gueen Hillary. So does Librals news.

Most Americans want the security of a Border Wall. Those who want the best protection for the US.

Government part shutdown may continue.

No your are gueen Mr.Toody rofl

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Sat 01/05/19 09:28 PM

Democrats will lie like their gueen Hillary. So does Librals news.

Most Americans want the security of a Border Wall. Those who want the best protection for the US.

Government part shutdown may continue.


protection from WHAT exactly?

what has been endangering us associated with the border all of a sudden?


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Sat 01/05/19 09:29 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sat 01/05/19 09:31 PM
Whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not, doesn't matter. The truth is the truth. And the truth is, the greater majority of people in the USA don't want or need a "wall". We as a nation do not need a "Great Wall" as a symbol of our country. I think it's close to 70% of the country that doesn't want it.

That's why the Democrats are putting up a fight. They know this. Thinking people know that 5 billion is just a start. If Trump really did care about border security, that trillion or more tax cut he gave the rich could have more than paid for it. But NO!. He chose the American taxpayer. Getting Mexico to pay for it was another big lie. The Democrats are the only thing standing between Trump and him breaking it off in the taxpayer's azz. AGAIN.

Thinking people know that this mess with the wall and all the hoards of illegals that were headed there was just a ruse set up by Trump and the Republicans just to get his wall. His "Trump National Monument". No national emergency. Just loads of bullshyt that he knows his in the dark followers will lap up like a thirsty dog to water.


I guess it's OK for some to live in fear. Started by fear mongers. I guess it's OK if you like believing fantasy, lies, and conspiracy. That is the subset that Trump appeals to. But I believe for the rest of us we choose to live in the light. That way we see things as they happen. We know things for what they really are. It has nothing to do with whether you are a Dem or Rep.

What it has to do with is whether you are seeing things for what they really are. Because, if you don't, that means you are lying to yourself. You refuse to see what's really there. And because of that, people like that are easy to lead. They follow without question and refuse knowledge.

It's pitiful and scary at the same time.

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Sat 01/05/19 10:19 PM
i think its hilarious that Trump supporters are absolutely
THE most **politically correct** people in America today...
they wouldn't be caught dead saying a contrary word towards
the ridiculous policies of their naked emperor...

i thought they hated being like that ??? laugh laugh

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Sun 01/06/19 01:33 PM
Trump Calls Those Who Don't Support His Wall 'Criminals'

"President Donald Trump insisted again in a tweet Saturday that there is overwhelming support for border security and his southern border wall. He declared that “everyone” wants it “very badly” — except for “drug dealers, human traffickers, and criminals. In fact, no poll has found that most Americans support the wall or support funding for it.

A Quinnipiac poll in December found that 54 percent of Americans opposed the wall, while a Harvard CAPS/Harris survey the same month found that 56 percent did not support a wall. Only 35 percent of those surveyed in a Reuters/Ipsos poll supported including money for the wall in a federal spending bill".


http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-those-don-apos-003238660.html

December 18, 2018 - U.S. Voters Say No Wall And Don't Shut Down Government, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Focus On Issues, Not Impeachment, Voters Tell Dems 7-1

" American voters oppose building a wall on the Mexican border 54 - 43 percent and say 54 - 44 percent the wall is not necessary to improve border security, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today".

http://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2590


Trump Says Country Wants Border Wall, But That’s Not What Polls Say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-americans-support-border-wall_us_5c2e9aaae4b05c88b70798d1



This is Trump's border wall. Only a few feel the same as he does. The country at large doesn't.






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Sun 01/06/19 05:58 PM
:thumbsup:

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Mon 01/07/19 09:41 AM
Edited by Colt45 on Mon 01/07/19 09:41 AM
Rear-ended a Trump voter & didn't give my insurance details. Just said I'd make his car great again & drove off while he stood & applauded.

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Mon 01/07/19 09:44 AM

i think its hilarious that Trump supporters are absolutely
THE most **politically correct** people in America today...
they wouldn't be caught dead saying a contrary word towards
the ridiculous policies of their naked emperor...

i thought they hated being like that ??? laugh laugh


The one upside to #Trumpshutdown is.. IRS IS CLOSED FOR BUSINESS! I can tell you who WON'T be buying Turbotax to file a return this year!

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Mon 01/07/19 09:51 AM

Rear-ended a Trump voter & didn't give my insurance details. Just said I'd make his car great again & drove off while he stood & applauded.

You should have told him Mexico will pay for the damages
Or its Canadas fault because the wind was from the north rofl

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Mon 01/07/19 01:16 PM
How many damned times has the USA interferred with froeign governments or conned its own people?! Look into CIA activities. Russia is just playing the same game. Neither the USA nor Russia are guilt-free. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

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Mon 01/07/19 01:17 PM
Your JOBS are most endangered. WHat pisses me off is that Trump knows damned well that he can finance that wall by confiscating the ill--earned gains from employers who illegally hire, uh, illegals. E-Verify has been around for quite a while, yet only BIG corps use it.

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Mon 01/07/19 01:30 PM

Your JOBS are most endangered. WHat pisses me off is that Trump knows damned well that he can finance that wall by confiscating the ill--earned gains from employers who illegally hire, uh, illegals. E-Verify has been around for quite a while, yet only BIG corps use it.

Problem with this theory is that trump hires hundreds of
"illegals" himself to work on his golf courses , hotels and even as personal staff
for his family . He's even assisted in securing them fraudulent green cards .
I dont think hes going to use the E-verify clause and cost himself more money to hire legal
Employees and have to pay them more money .

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Mon 01/07/19 02:31 PM
how about Trump pays for the wall now and the IRS allows
him a 1% deduction in his yearly tax liability payment
until he is fully reimbursed for his generous offer...?

#AreYouKiddingMe....laugh

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Mon 01/07/19 02:44 PM

how about Trump pays for the wall now and the IRS allows
him a 1% deduction in his yearly tax liability payment
until he is fully reimbursed for his generous offer...?

#AreYouKiddingMe....laugh

You just have to think like Elon. Dual purpose the wall into a coast to coast rail system, incorporate secure transmission systems in to the structure, add some solar generating.... and cut the expense, hell gather long term investments.

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Mon 01/07/19 05:13 PM
whoa

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Tue 01/08/19 01:12 AM
Trump can't declare national emergency over border wall funding, Judge Napolitano says

http://www.yahoo.com/finance/video/trump-cant-declare-national-emergency-133828837.html

News networks should not air Trump Wall speech without fact-checking first

"President Donald Trump announced Monday that he “will Address the Nation on the Humanitarian and National Security crisis on our Southern Border. Tuesday night at 9:00 p.m. Eastern.”

Keep in mind that just a few hours earlier, Trump declared on Twitter: “The Fake News Media in our Country is the real Opposition Party. It is truly the Enemy of the People! We must bring honesty back to journalism and reporting!”

On the same day that he continued his never-ending attack on the free press, President Trump is asking the media to give him prime-time air to address the nation.

They shouldn’t.

It is a disservice to the American people to broadcast, without context or real-time fact-checking, someone who is using the airwaves for the sole purpose of lying to the American people about an overtly racist agenda".


http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/01/07/abc-cbs-nbc-fox-msnbc-cnn-trump-wall-speech-column/2506114002/

Seeking support for a wall, Trump plans prime-time speech, border visit

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Aiming to bolster his case for a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, President Donald Trump said on Monday he would make a prime-time televised address and visit the border this week as the government marked its 17th day of a partial shutdown".

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shutdown/seeking-support-for-a-wall-trump-plans-address-and-border-visit-idUSKCN1P11PU

Trump to take over airwaves, and Democrats demand equal time



"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is taking over the nation’s airwaves Tuesday night to argue his case for a U.S.-Mexico border wall — and Democrats are not happy about it.

Representatives for ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox Broadcasting, Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, MSNBC and NBC confirmed plans to air Trump’s address live at 9 p.m. Eastern.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer say Democrats should be given time to respond after Trump’s address".

http://www.apnews.com/7bdc30f1b28c4b668c1df2385a5c79b2


Here Are the White House's Latest Demands to End the Shutdown

"The White House is holding firm in its request for $5.7 billion for a border wall to end the shutdown, while also demanding billions of dollars more to address other priorities at the southern border, according to a proposal it gave Congressional Democrats Sunday".

http://time.com/5496179/mike-pence-donald-trump-border-wall-proposal-shutdown-democrats/

AP FACT CHECK: Do ex-presidents back Trump wall? They say no

"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s recent claim that his predecessors endorsed his idea of a wall at the Mexican border got no support from the ex-presidents’ club.

Trump stated in a Rose Garden news conference Friday: “This should have been done by all of the presidents that preceded me. And they all know it. Some of them have told me that we should have done it.”

THE FACTS: The four living ex-presidents do not back him up on this claim".

http://www.apnews.com/0b368a320d744c94819206c45ae9f2b6


Trump always says "most ppl", "everyone says", "everyone tells me", "I hear from everyone", "I've spoken to a lot of ppl",.....and yet he can never say who these "ppl" are, "interesting".










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Tue 01/08/19 01:27 AM
MoveOn: 2020 Democratic nominee must be unapologetically progressive

"Polls show that the 2020 Democratic nomination for president is anyone’s game. In fact, recent polls of our members at MoveOn show that “undecided” and “other” rank higher than any-one potential candidate".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/01/06/moveon-2020-democratic-nominee-must-unapologetically-progressive-editorials-debates/2496934002/

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Tue 01/08/19 02:13 AM
This is a genuine question because I see a similarity.

Obama pushed for healthcare but was wrong to say everyone would keep their doctor, since they didnt.

Trump is pushing for the wall but was wrong to say Mexico will pay for it, because they arent.

Trump is using the budget to blackmail congress into taxpayer funding the wall. Did this same technique get used when Obama was trying to push healthcare? I honestly dont remember. I dont think he held up federal pay over the issue, did he?

I will look it up when I wake up in the morning ...

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