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This time of year, we often hear about people taking offense to different greetings, based upon their personal beliefs.
Personally, I am more the type to focus on intention than to jump to a state of offense. I am not Jewish, I believe Christ is Son of God, but I would not be offended if a Jewish person wished me a happy hannukah. I am a Christian, but it does not offend me to hear Asala Sa'laikum. I am also not offended to hear Happy Holidays, but I do find it sad that people feel obligated to hide their own celebration sometimes and feel they have to say happy holidays INSTEAD. I have even heard people are protesting the playing of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer(they say its a song about bigotry) and Baby Its Cold Outside (they claim it encourages rape culture). So many of these things seem like such a coddling attempt to shame people into hiding or pretending reality is not reality. Men do try to persuade women to have sex, so what? Women can say no. and as long as nothing happens while they say no, what is the problem? I sometimes wonder if we can put more emphasis on the intent and the context of things rather than jump to an 'offended' position. are you easily offended? do you mind other people sharing their personal holiday greeting with you? Is it more important to you what you are inferring or what they are implying? |
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My only answer to that is :
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR Ms.H  Love reading your points of view and look forward to read more in the new year . 
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Honestly I have never understood why it would offend anyone.. Does not matter if one believes as I do or not..
I will always say Merry Christmas all I ask is that one acknowledge that I spoke to them.. They can say~~ same to you~~~ or just a simple thank you~~~ does not matter I addressed you at least acknowledge that I did~~ |
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Edited by
MK2
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Tue 12/25/18 11:19 AM
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I personally not Christian but I always greeting my Christian friends, neighbors, I'm not Jewish either but I have a lot of Jewish friends & greeting them on them hollidays...
Merry Christmas Ms & Happy New Year 
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HARMONY - I agree with you.. and I think it goes too far trying to suppress old Christmas songs. Good grief. seems like common sense should rule, but often it no longer does. Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it, and a good day wished to all others.
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welcome to the world of the snowflake to me there are a lot more things to be offended by but to me some one offing you good or the best in there eye, yeah i could see why they would be offended <face palm> that would be really, really funny , if it wasnt a fact |
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Ms Harmony, I often do not agree with you but, in this case, I do very much. For me, I have to many years of living to be offended by much of anything and will never understand what some people find as offensive. If I say the exact same thing and my intent is the same as 40 years ago, you still have no reason to be offended.
To those who are easily offended: sorry, but you are the one with the problem, not me - just get over it because most people aren't going to change just because you are offended. Merry Christmas and tip one for me on New Years!! |
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offended welcome to the world of the snowflake to me there are a lot more things to be offended by but to me some one offing you good or the best in there eye, yeah i could see why they would be offended <face palm> that would be really, really funny , if it wasnt a fact ^^^^^^^^ This. ! |
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I am not offended by any kind of holiday greetings. I say thank you and to you too. Easy... just comes naturally to me.
Happy Holidays MsH  
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are you easily offended? By the things I find offensive, sure. do you mind other people sharing their personal holiday greeting with you? Depends on how they go about it. Is it my gay cousin telling everyone Mary Gaymas, and any response of Merry Christmas they retort "no, no, no, Gaymas!?" Or as I'm grabbing my bags at the end of the counter does the cashier say "Happy Kwanzaa" and I can just head out the door and not acknowledge it? Or while ringing up my stuff does the cashier go into a 10 minute diatribe about holiday greeting political correctness, keeping me from leaving? Or am I getting written up at work and have to go to sensitivity training or lose my bonus because I said merry christmas to someone that told me happy hanukkah? Are they retorting a greeting as a means to negate mine? If it doesn't interfere with me doing what I want or need to do or interfere with me getting what I want, no, I don't mind at all, I don't even really think about it. Is it more important to you what you are inferring or what they are implying? Depends on what I'm inferring based on what I think they're implying, not to mention the implications of what they're doing no matter what they intended. |
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Can't we all get along?
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It is not the religious background that counts, it is the thought behind it. Another person wishes you well, that's all that matters.
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Edited by
The Wrong Alice
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Wed 12/26/18 11:23 AM
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Bloody god squad. The end is high. I'm Spartacus, no, no, the end will be nigh, next tuesday
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My only answer to that is : MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR Ms.H Love reading your points of view and look forward to read more in the new year . you too, Happy Holidays! 
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My only answer to that is : MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR Ms.H Love reading your points of view and look forward to read more in the new year . you too, Happy Holidays!
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This time of year, we often hear about people taking offense to different greetings, based upon their personal beliefs. Personally, I am more the type to focus on intention than to jump to a state of offense. I am not Jewish, I believe Christ is Son of God, but I would not be offended if a Jewish person wished me a happy hannukah. I am a Christian, but it does not offend me to hear Asala Sa'laikum. I am also not offended to hear Happy Holidays, but I do find it sad that people feel obligated to hide their own celebration sometimes and feel they have to say happy holidays INSTEAD. I have even heard people are protesting the playing of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer(they say its a song about bigotry) and Baby Its Cold Outside (they claim it encourages rape culture). So many of these things seem like such a coddling attempt to shame people into hiding or pretending reality is not reality. Men do try to persuade women to have sex, so what? Women can say no. and as long as nothing happens while they say no, what is the problem? I sometimes wonder if we can put more emphasis on the intent and the context of things rather than jump to an 'offended' position. are you easily offended? do you mind other people sharing their personal holiday greeting with you? Is it more important to you what you are inferring or what they are implying? In my experience, there are three kinds of "people who say they are offended." 1. people who actually are upset about something; 2. people who think they SHOULD say they are upset about something, in order to try to please someone else who they owe fealty to; and 3. people who LOOK for things to PRETEND to be offended about, as a dishonest way to promote their various personal agendas. The last group include people such as racists, who try to hide their racism behind a false front of being "offended" by bad behavior; and political manipulators, who try to hide their goal of suppressing arguments they can't answer, behind a pretense of false civility. When it comes to the exchange of religious or politically linked greetings, I think there's a special situation in play. Most people DO simply mean "hope you have fun" when they say such. But it is also true, that some people use even friendly-sounding greetings and phrases, as purposeful efforts to establish social dominance over someone else. It's usually very similar to what we see regularly on forum sites like this one, where someone posts a demand that if they send someone a message, that that person MUST reply, no matter what, because it's "polite." I do get offended by attempted manipulation, especially in the name of positive principles that I also support. |
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