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Topic: is red MAGA hat the new white hood for the 21st century?
shovelheaddave's photo
Wed 01/23/19 01:17 PM
There are several people who are now comparing the red MAGA hats that trump supporters have made famous to the white hoods that the KKK wear when they practice their racism and bigotry.

I think that it is a pretty good comparison,since the trump brand is well known for its long practice of racism,and bigotry towards minorities,and if you find somebody who is a racist,or a bigot,they are USUALLY a trump supporter,and proudly wear the hat out in public while they are practicing their antisocial deeds to show their support of Donald trump and his racist,and homophobic views.

We have all seen the viral video of the high schoolers from Kentucky with a great number of them proudly wearing their red MAGA hats to show up as a unified group to protest legal abortions,and then surrounded and taunted a group of Indians protesters on camera,with one high schooler spotlighted proudly wearing his red hat as he got right in indian protester Nathan Phillips face and stood there sneering at him to try to intimidate him.

THIS is the type of antisocial behavior that we have become all too accustomed to,because whenever you see groups of people wearing the red hats,whether it is at a trump rally cheering for his racist,and homophobic views that trump spews out to excite his supporters,or on the news,when you see someone on camera after they have been singled out for practicing their own antisocial views.

I am not trying to claim that EVERYBODY that wears the red hat does these things,but I don't think that it is a coincidence that any time you see anybody doing these things that they are proudly wearing a red MAGA hat.

so...while it might not be EXACTLY like he KKK does (YET),it is similar enough to them for people to start making the connection,and associating the hat to racism,and bigotry.

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 01/23/19 01:56 PM
What gets me is some are fast on the draw to accuse others for what they think happen when in Reality it is totally different story then some seem to see since they fail to get the whole story first..

First of all the Elder that was there admits he approached the group of kids from Covington.. It was not even those kids that was taunting them.. The Elder which has a record of being a Activist himself walked up to the boy that is in front of him beating his drum and stood within touching distance. The boy pictured did not say anything to him he stood his ground with his hands behind his back. The young man pictured was already standing their and the elder approached him.



The News and Social Media took it to another level on their own. As well as others without even looking at the whole story...

Just saying people really need to wait for the whole story at times before accusing when they only have a part of the truth~


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-students-full-video-shows-viral-protest-new-light/2635085002/

http://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video

And some info on Nathan Phillips the elder ~~

http://bigleaguepolitics.com/exposed-nathan-phillips-history-of-alcoholism-being-thrown-in-and-out-of-jail/

shovelheaddave's photo
Wed 01/23/19 04:35 PM

What gets me is some are fast on the draw to accuse others for what they think happen when in Reality it is totally different story then some seem to see since they fail to get the whole story first..

First of all the Elder that was there admits he approached the group of kids from Covington.. It was not even those kids that was taunting them.. The Elder which has a record of being a Activist himself walked up to the boy that is in front of him beating his drum and stood within touching distance. The boy pictured did not say anything to him he stood his ground with his hands behind his back. The young man pictured was already standing their and the elder approached him.



The News and Social Media took it to another level on their own. As well as others without even looking at the whole story...

Just saying people really need to wait for the whole story at times before accusing when they only have a part of the truth~


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-students-full-video-shows-viral-protest-new-light/2635085002/

http://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video

And some info on Nathan Phillips the elder ~~

http://bigleaguepolitics.com/exposed-nathan-phillips-history-of-alcoholism-being-thrown-in-and-out-of-jail/


there are SEVERAL different stories of what happened there that day,in that one instance,depending on where you decide you want to look,but that still doesn't change the fact that racists have adopted the red MAGA hat as a symbol of their beliefs,and just because somebody doesn't want to accept the fact that it is a common enough occurrence that people are starting to make the association between red MAGA hats,and racism doesn't make it any less true,because people ARE starting to make that association.

I wonder why that is?

maybe it is all of the hundreds of hours of footage there is of people in their red MAGA hats at trump rallies,going especially crazy with excitement whenever trump starts his racist,and bigoted rants that he always does to fire up the crowd of his supporters.

OR,
maybe it is because of people like the man wearing the red MAGA hat that yelled racial slurs as he pushed a Hispanic man off of the platform and down onto the train tracks before running off like a coward?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Man-in-Make-America-Great-Again-Hat-Shouted-Racial-Abuse-Shoved-Man-onto-Subway-Tracks-NYPD-480471721.html

OR,
maybe it is because of people like Nicholas Cruz,the one who shot 17 children at that school in florida,who posted pictures of himself in his red MAGA hat on his social media accounts?

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/02/15/florida-high-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruzs-instagram-profile-shows-him-wearing-maga-hat/23362848/

OR,
maybe it is because vandals do things like deface murals in historically Hispanic parts of san francisco by drawing red MAGA hats onto all of the people in the murals?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/15/san-francisco-murals-trump-maga-vandals

OR,
maybe it is because of gangs of people wearing red MAGA hats leaving a republican club meeting in new york,and then screaming homophobic slurs at people before starting to beat several of them?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/proud-boys-new-york-assault-gavin-mcinnes_us_5bc20d60e4b0bd9ed55a96ee

OR,maybe it is because of people like the guy in the red MAGA who ran down all of those innocent people in Charlottesville,va at the protest rally??

OR,maybe it is because of all of the white supremists who proudly wear the red MAGA hats at their rallies,and 'march in the name of trump'?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/14/white-supremacists-have-been-marching-in-president-trumps-name-literally/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.152bc8320c8e



NOOOO....
it COULDNT be because of THAT,could it??

so,is it any wonder why people were so quick to jump to conclusions,when they saw somebody on a red MAGA hat doing what appeared to be taunting a native American???

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 01/23/19 05:25 PM
Problem is those that jump to conclusion before hearing the whole story..

I was referring to the story you posted above and only that incident..each case has a different ending..

So it seems you have come to the conclusion that anyone that wears a Maga Red Hat is either a racist or a bigoted by your own words..

Myself I could careless who voted for who I would never lump them all in those categories~~~ I have friends/family that are on different sides when it comes to Politics.. But when it comes right down to it they are still my friends/family and I respect their views.

To me each incident that happens one should find out all the facts before one is ready to blame it all on who they voted for.. But then that is just my opinion..

And again read the story it was not the Kids in the Red Maga Hats that was taunting the Elder. It was in fact another group that was on the other side of the kids that had the Maga hats on.. Which the boy in the pic thought if he moved and let the Elder beating on his drum go by that he would be walking into those that would attack him..

This is in one of the links I posted~~

"The fuller video would seem to assign more blame for the encounter on a group of four or five Black Hebrew Israelites.

The main speaker for the Black Hebrew Israelites, hollering without a microphone for more than an hour, first tells some demonstrating Native Americans they had their land taken away because they worshiped the wrong god."



soufiehere's photo
Wed 01/23/19 05:32 PM
Edited for targeting members rather than the topic.

soufie
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shovelheaddave's photo
Wed 01/23/19 05:35 PM
Edited by shovelheaddave on Wed 01/23/19 05:42 PM

Problem is those that jump to conclusion before hearing the whole story..

I was referring to the story you posted above and only that incident..each case has a different ending..

So it seems you have come to the conclusion that anyone that wears a Maga Red Hat is either a racist or a bigoted by your own words..

Myself I could careless who voted for who I would never lump them all in those categories~~~ I have friends/family that are on different sides when it comes to Politics.. But when it comes right down to it they are still my friends/family and I respect their views.

To me each incident that happens one should find out all the facts before one is ready to blame it all on who they voted for.. But then that is just my opinion..

And again read the story it was not the Kids in the Red Maga Hats that was taunting the Elder. It was in fact another group that was on the other side of the kids that had the Maga hats on.. Which the boy in the pic thought if he moved and let the Elder beating on his drum go by that he would be walking into those that would attack him..

This is in one of the links I posted~~

"The fuller video would seem to assign more blame for the encounter on a group of four or five Black Hebrew Israelites.

The main speaker for the Black Hebrew Israelites, hollering without a microphone for more than an hour, first tells some demonstrating Native Americans they had their land taken away because they worshiped the wrong god."





whether the student was actually practicing racism,or not,the fact that people were so ready to jump to the conclusion that the student was being racist,just because he was wearing a red MAGA hat just proves my point that people are now associating the red MAGA hat with racism,because they have seen the connection between the two so often that it has now become a natural assumption.

I think that THIS incident pretty well proves that fact,doesnt it?

and,just for the record,i did not just pull this story out of thin air...

it is a story that has been being discussed in the news,because there are other people who are now publically making this connection....

I am just bringing it to the forums for discussion.

no photo
Wed 01/23/19 06:29 PM
I see racism being talked about on this thread. Looks to me that it's the OP that's doing it.

oldkid46's photo
Wed 01/23/19 07:07 PM
So we should assume those wearing a turbine are terrorists? Someone who uses ghetto language is a drug dealer? Anyone who rides a Harley is a criminal biker? What other assumptions would you like for us to believe?? All those symbols are true for some people and are not true for others. That is no different than looking at skin color or religious affiliation or gender or sexual preference and saying they are worthless people!!!! I hope you realize how ridiculous that is and what political correctness has accomplished in our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shovelheaddave's photo
Wed 01/23/19 08:36 PM

welcome to reality...

if it looks like a duck...

and walks like a duck...

and quacks like a duck.....

people are going to assume that it is just a duck!!

UNLESS it is wearing a red MAGA hat!!

THEN,people are just going to assume that it is a RACIST duck!!

the moral of this story is that if you don't want people to think that you are a racist,you probably shouldn't wear a white hood,OR a MAGA hat out in public any more.

if you don't believe me,just ask that poor student from Kentucky who was just 'innocently standing there listening to the music' in his MAGA hat,whose whole school had to be shut down for the safety of its students because of his 'bad fashion choice'!!

lol



Smartazzjohn's photo
Wed 01/23/19 09:00 PM
So if you don't want people to think you are an "outlaw" bicker you shouldn't have tattoos and ride a Harley? To say if a person doesn't want people to thing you are a racist you shouldn't wear a MEGA hat is no different.

To make ANY assumption about a person based on ONE thing is bigoted. It's racist to assume you are superior to someone because of the color of their skin....it doesn't matter it the skin color is black, brown or white. The Black Hebrew Israelites were the ONLY people being racist during this incident because with their vial rhetoric they said the white kids were inferior. But you don't see the MSM calling them out for being racists.

If I'm not bothering anyone and I'm wearing something someone else doesn't like it's THEIR problem, not mine. If they get in my face and threaten me we will both have a problem because they initiated a confrontation. These kids showed a lot of restraint, restraint that wasn't shown by media in their initial commentary and by some who continue blaming those kids.

Smartazzjohn's photo
Wed 01/23/19 09:00 PM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Wed 01/23/19 09:01 PM
oops...I double posted.

FeelYoung's photo
Wed 01/23/19 09:21 PM
. It's not fair to target the kids for wearing a popular hat, and then not wish to be targeted due to a photo of riding a "vehicle".

hardBNhard's photo
Wed 01/23/19 11:38 PM
From what im understanding from the OP is that the hat represents trump and trump represents racisim .
And i understand completly !
Dingbat donald is the real problem here ! Not the hat or the slogan .
Cut off the head of the Hamberder eating snake and things can change
Go to
>>> NEEDTOIMPEACH.COM >>># needtoimpeach
And lets let Mueller take care of the rest
Hes a ugly syain on the nation and until hes gone things will get worst and more divisive

no photo
Thu 01/24/19 04:03 AM
Edited by tombraider on Thu 01/24/19 04:49 AM

If being a Trump supporter makes you a racist then
by that logic whether they wear a hat or not it would mean that those who voted for Hillary and Obama are traitors..and those who voted for Bill Clinton are pedophiles and rapists it doesn't matter that they don't wear a hat..they know who they are..spock

Some would say we didn't know then what we know now because the media painted them in a better light than that.. didn't they.. just like the bad light they are painting Trump in now..and guess what's going to happen in the future..the same thing..you are going to find out that what you know then you did't know now..

These stories in the media about these kids shows that no one is safe from the mockingbird media not those kids not you or I ..not Trump..these kids have been threatened from what I hear that school has been closed due to threats..and for what?..the words of the mockingbird media trying to paint kids wearing MAGA hats in a bad light simply because they are PATRIOTS and support our president ..and the Deep state who controls the media will do anything to get rid of Trump..even if it means sacrificing children to do it..

What better proof do people need ..as to what is really going on..spock

Understand this Trump is hell bent on exposing the Deep State and getting rid of the federal reserve..and giving the country back to the people as it should be..and the Deep State is hell bent on seeing this doesn't happen even if it means sacrificing kids wearing MAGA hats ..I wonder if we would have heard this story if it wasn't for the fact they were wearing MAGA hats..probably not..

DO THE RESEARCH..

FOLLOW THE RABBIT..Alice

.. WWG1 WGA

shovelheaddave's photo
Thu 01/24/19 05:59 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/14/white-supremacists-have-been-marching-in-president-trumps-name-literally/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.152bc8320c8e

White supremacists have been marching in President Trump’s name. Literally.

President Trump has tried to move on from his insistence, in the wake of the violence last month in Charlottesville, that “both sides” were to blame. He has mostly stopped tweeting about his support for Confederate monuments. As far as the White House is concerned, the matter is resolved.

But no matter what Trump and his advisers might prefer, he’s unlikely to be able to put questions about hate groups behind him for the rest of his presidency. And that’s because the white nationalists and supremacists, neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klansmen, Neo-Confederates and alt-righters who gathered in Charlottesville and continue to try to organize across the nation are all marching together in his name.

All the alt-right rallies in various cities nationwide, including Charlottesville, since the election have featured prominent pro-Trump rhetoric. As they did that weekend in Virginia, the marchers in these various factions — in addition to full complements of armed militiamen and weapon-and-shield-toting “Proud Boys” — have worn red “Make America Great Again” ball caps and pro-Trump T-shirts, carried pro-Trump signs and chanted his name as often as they chant “U-S-A!”

In Seattle on Jan. 20, amid brawls outside a Milo Yiannopoulos event, the wife of a man wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat pulled a gun and shot an anti-fascist peacekeeper who was trying to prevent her husband from using pepper spray on counterprotesters.

In Berkeley, Calif., and Portland, Ore., “free speech” rallies led by pro-Trump alt-right groups and featuring armed and armored “Proud Boys” wearing the trademark red caps turned into large rolling melees that left dozens injured.

All these rallies have featured a diverse array of far-right extremists, reflective of the alt-right as a movement: nativists and Neo-Confederates and Klansmen, neo-Nazis and white nationalists and well-armed “Patriot” militiamen, men’s rights activists, and, of course, the smirking, polo-shirt-wearing, Pepe-banner-waving adherents of the online alt-right. They are a contentious lot, inclined to internal warfare and bickering. However, one thing unites all these groups, both within the movement and at these rallies, beyond a general loathing of all things liberal, often papering over their usual disagreements: Trump.

The problem is not just reflected in these protests, but in what has happened nationally since the election. In the first three months after Trump won the presidency, the Southern Poverty Law Center recorded an astonishing 1,372 hate incidents, nearly all of them election-related. A deep dive into the data reveals that nearly half of these incidents involve people referencing Trump, either by name or by parroting his rhetoric: groups of white thugs intimidating minorities while chanting “Trump,” for instance, or swastika graffiti accompanied by the words “Make America White Again.” The cold, hard fact that racist thugs shout and chant Trump’s name (something we all saw happening in Charlottesville) while threatening and intimidating minorities should give us all pause — particularly the president himself.
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welcome to REALITY,y'all!!!

please wipe your feet...

we just had the carpets cleaned!

oldkid46's photo
Thu 01/24/19 06:50 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/14/white-supremacists-have-been-marching-in-president-trumps-name-literally/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.152bc8320c8e

White supremacists have been marching in President Trump’s name. Literally.

President Trump has tried to move on from his insistence, in the wake of the violence last month in Charlottesville, that “both sides” were to blame. He has mostly stopped tweeting about his support for Confederate monuments. As far as the White House is concerned, the matter is resolved.

But no matter what Trump and his advisers might prefer, he’s unlikely to be able to put questions about hate groups behind him for the rest of his presidency. And that’s because the white nationalists and supremacists, neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klansmen, Neo-Confederates and alt-righters who gathered in Charlottesville and continue to try to organize across the nation are all marching together in his name.

All the alt-right rallies in various cities nationwide, including Charlottesville, since the election have featured prominent pro-Trump rhetoric. As they did that weekend in Virginia, the marchers in these various factions — in addition to full complements of armed militiamen and weapon-and-shield-toting “Proud Boys” — have worn red “Make America Great Again” ball caps and pro-Trump T-shirts, carried pro-Trump signs and chanted his name as often as they chant “U-S-A!”

In Seattle on Jan. 20, amid brawls outside a Milo Yiannopoulos event, the wife of a man wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat pulled a gun and shot an anti-fascist peacekeeper who was trying to prevent her husband from using pepper spray on counterprotesters.

In Berkeley, Calif., and Portland, Ore., “free speech” rallies led by pro-Trump alt-right groups and featuring armed and armored “Proud Boys” wearing the trademark red caps turned into large rolling melees that left dozens injured.

All these rallies have featured a diverse array of far-right extremists, reflective of the alt-right as a movement: nativists and Neo-Confederates and Klansmen, neo-Nazis and white nationalists and well-armed “Patriot” militiamen, men’s rights activists, and, of course, the smirking, polo-shirt-wearing, Pepe-banner-waving adherents of the online alt-right. They are a contentious lot, inclined to internal warfare and bickering. However, one thing unites all these groups, both within the movement and at these rallies, beyond a general loathing of all things liberal, often papering over their usual disagreements: Trump.

The problem is not just reflected in these protests, but in what has happened nationally since the election. In the first three months after Trump won the presidency, the Southern Poverty Law Center recorded an astonishing 1,372 hate incidents, nearly all of them election-related. A deep dive into the data reveals that nearly half of these incidents involve people referencing Trump, either by name or by parroting his rhetoric: groups of white thugs intimidating minorities while chanting “Trump,” for instance, or swastika graffiti accompanied by the words “Make America White Again.” The cold, hard fact that racist thugs shout and chant Trump’s name (something we all saw happening in Charlottesville) while threatening and intimidating minorities should give us all pause — particularly the president himself.
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welcome to REALITY,y'all!!!

please wipe your feet...

we just had the carpets cleaned!

All of these instances which involve violence have another part you did not mention. Those who disagree with their right of assembly and speech!! It takes that effort to curtail the rights of others to cause the violence. That is the risk of any protest; the fact that someone will disagree with you and try to stop your protest.

hardBNhard's photo
Thu 01/24/19 07:14 AM
DAY 34 OF DINBAT DONALDS SELFISH SHUTDOWN .
Atta girl Mrs.Pelosi . Keep that idiot out of your house .:thumbsup:

Smartazzjohn's photo
Thu 01/24/19 09:12 AM

DAY 34 OF DINBAT DONALDS SELFISH SHUTDOWN .
Atta girl Mrs.Pelosi . Keep that idiot out of your house .:thumbsup:



I hope she keeps saying inanimate objects like a barrier are immoral, barriers like the ones her fellow Democrats voted for, barriers Obama called for when he was a senator, that Schumer OPENLY supported.
She is showing who the real idiots, and hypocrites, are to the people who are really open minded, who look at facts and don't regurgitate talking points like puppets.
If a person changes their stance on an issue based on who is in the White House they expose who the idiots are, and that includes the IDIOTS who were against everything Obama supported ONLY because he was in the White House.

oldkid46's photo
Thu 01/24/19 09:46 AM


DAY 34 OF DINBAT DONALDS SELFISH SHUTDOWN .
Atta girl Mrs.Pelosi . Keep that idiot out of your house .:thumbsup:



I hope she keeps saying inanimate objects like a barrier are immoral, barriers like the ones her fellow Democrats voted for, barriers Obama called for when he was a senator, that Schumer OPENLY supported.
She is showing who the real idiots, and hypocrites, are to the people who are really open minded, who look at facts and don't regurgitate talking points like puppets.
If a person changes their stance on an issue based on who is in the White House they expose who the idiots are, and that includes the IDIOTS who were against everything Obama supported ONLY because he was in the White House.
They all are great at playing politics: not so much at actually governing!

no photo
Thu 01/24/19 11:13 AM
Edited by tombraider on Thu 01/24/19 11:34 AM


Left wing extremists group ANTIFA has been condemned for posting a vile FACEBOOK post
praising a man who killed 59/527 wounded people in the worst mass shooting in American history.

One of our comrades from our Las Vegas branch has made these fascists Trump supporting dogs pay..


NOW.. you were saying..spock


.. WWG1 WGA

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