What do you all think about this issue and please try to go with personal experience and the BS on the news.

Acupuncture, been there, done it, I'll praise it for life. Granted my practitioner was near 70 years old and trained overseas.

No one here cares about this issue?

Amazing and happy you're all pain free...

I know some doctors don't give a rats ***.
A friends wife was hooked on Oxycodone which should use a regiment of drugs to come down from and the doctor pretty much just cut her off. This basically lead to her death and she had children.

I don't like pills, I dropped my script two days after my second and last surgery.

Back when I got the acupuncture done it was on my dime as it was considered voodoo.

I've posted in the other thread, do some studying on Royal Raymond Rife.

I was on Norco for 8 years - doc was giving me 10 a day. pain kept getting worse Morphine was like eating M&M's. tried everything. Finally a neurologist said 10 a day was deadly and I had rebound pain...cut it to 8.
big deal. Now my GP has sent me to a new pain specialist who said NO MORE narcotics, wean off of them so I can start you on LDN (look up LDN)
that made me furious, so I just stopped cold turkey. never took another Norco. had absolutely NO withdrawal symptoms, which I assume means it never helped in the first place. Went back to doc clean for 10 days and he started me on LDN. 2 months in and its not helping... in so much pain I just get through a day at a time..but due to socialists wanting drugs to pour over our borders, we have an "opioid crisis" so I can't get my Norco again. The best I can do is use ice packs and a cane.

Thanks I did.

I have chronic pain.
People give me pain meds.
I can't get pain meds from the VA.
When I get pain meds elsewhere. I tend to let the sit till the pain becomes unbearable.
I have grown a tolerance to my pain.
I deal with it.
When i take a pain med, it makes me feel much much better but without having a steady supply, its all moot.
Most opiates make me have a pain med hangover.
I need more to comfort my hangover.
If I deal with the pain, I can forego the withdraw symptoms I get from taking them.

While its nice to have an out, I choose not to take it in most cases.

But, consider this, If those meds make me feel better, why can't I get them?
The VA is a stickler about pain meds.
They just won't give them out unless you are in an extreme situation.

Pain meds are GREAT!
But its a high price to pay.

The thing about people that experience chronic pain is that doctors havbe absolutely no idea how bad it can get.

Personally, I understand the dangers of opiates.
I understand why the medical community is trying to steer people away from the opiate use.
Its a two-sided sword.
On one hand, the opiates actually work to relief the pain.
On the other, if you use them you get addicted.

What I have found out is that if you get some, you moderate your use of them to get the desired result.

If I take 1 oxycodone, I feel really good.
If I take two or take then day after day for a week, I feel like I am addicted.
I don't want to be addicted to pain meds.
I stop taking them of my own free will.

A 30 day supply might last me 180 fays or more.
Because I only take them when the pain exceeds my ability to deal with it, the point is getting adjusted as time progresses.

When I do take a pain med (she brought me some) I experience life more like I did before the collapse.

But, I also know they are not replenishing and however good I might feel, the reality invades and I am back to a body that is past its expectation set.

With the pain meds I can be the person I was before the pain, For a lil while.
When they wear off, I am back to square one.

So yes, I take pain meds whenever possible but I don't depend on them.

me too....take when I need and tolerate the remainder. The catch is, since I am OFF my Norco, new doc won't give me any. Do I turn to the street? That's where this opioid crisis is leading.... ME standing on a street corner with a cardboard sign - I NEED A PAIN PILL. 30 would be one a day for a month. Come ON doctors, there is real pain out here.


"BUILD THAT WALL"

** I have the right to remain silent but I don't have the ability.

Opiate addiction is easy.
Sometimes you need to take more just to handle the withdrawl.
There ae a lot of people addicted to pain meds and that's not a good thing.

When I could get them, I tried not to take them.
When I did, I felt it getting away from me so I would ween myself off for a bit.
You can't convince a doctor that you are not addicted or that you are not selling them.

When I do have them now, its because someone gave me one of theirs.
But, I don't ask for them.

I have gotten to the point I barely use OTC pain relievers.
When the docs cut me off, I swallowed handfulls of the OTC and the pain persisted.
The pain is still there (always there) but I have built my tolerance to the point I don't NEED relief like I used to.

Thankfully, I don't have to work in pain.
If I could still work, I would certainly need some.
Still, its nice to get a break from the pain every once in awhile.
They do provide an increase in the quality of life when I have them.

There was no reason in the world for the pharmaceutical industry to produce OxyContin. None at all. We did not need another pain drug and we certainly did not need one that is soo addictive.

The pharmaceutical industry knew full well what such a addictive drug would do out in society and they put it out there anyway.. rubber stamped by the FDA.

This drug has ruined peoples lives, destroyed families and killed people. People who would not normal turn into drug addicts did in fact turn into drug addicts after surgeries and doctor prescribed OxyContin ( and similar drugs).

The pharmaceutical companies should be held liable for this injustice and for their pure greed. Because OxyContin was put out into the general public for one reason and one reason only... money.

I feel some pharmaceutical company executives should be tried for what they actually are.. drug dealers ( and some doctors as well) and sent to prisons.

And the FDA should also be investigated for letting this poison out into the public.

The world did not need this drug in the first place.

I was given a variety of pain meds. Each one had its issues so they would try another until I got to OxyContin. I never took them.

I too have learned to live with most of my pain. Now my doctor gave me tramadol. It works but I rarely take it. Only when pain is unbearable or I just need a day without pain.

They put me on it for a little bit. It made me loopy and I was always sleepy. I ended sending the gas company a check that was suppose to go to the electric company. So I never took it again lol

Which one did you take? OxyContin or tramadol?

Tramadol

Doesn’t affect me like that at all. Guess I have a higher tolerance for drugs

I can't even take childrens benadryl

I think for many with chronic pain there is a psychological and emotional component that is not always addressed . everyone's experience is unique .. pain thresholds , tolerance and coping mechanisms all vary .

As for opiate overprescribing ... ... I could imagine the chaos if patients were required to attend a weekly appointment to be reassessed for a prescription . Perhaps for opiates this should be mandatory :-)

oxycodone is very effective postop for moderate to severe pain . Most medications capable of treating pain at this level carry a risk of tolerance and dependence .. especially with long term use . Restrictive changes have already begun around the prescribing of codeine and tramadol .. I am sure opiates will follow .

Smoking a small piece of raw opium would be less harmful to your kidneys and such. But due to the war on plants and economics. You have no alternative but to take a more harmful legal derivative, because of where the money ends up

* I don't want another Berlin wall. I was very happy the day it came down. F#&* the wall, and what it represents