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Topic: American history and Indians & slaves
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Sun 12/01/19 01:58 PM
I'm not American.
But here's my understanding
The majority of the population, that is locked away, is made up of ethnic minorities
They 'slave' away, working for a pittance
There are extremely high rates of suicide, amongst Inuits ( and Aborigines )
I believe this to be social engineering

Oh, and Saint Patrick
Was English
And taken, as a slave
By the Irish

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Sun 12/01/19 02:01 PM
Ed4u
To answer your question
Bolivia, until, somebody interfered, can't think who
Also, does capitalist socialism count,?
If so, Denmark

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Mon 12/02/19 11:36 AM

Looking at history in general, Anglo Saxon a appear to be the race which feels the need to conquer others. Anglo's frequently use charm, lies and baffle with very odd quotes. They like to feel superior over others. They are very paganistic and shroud themselves in secrecy from others. They spread highly malicious gossip and accuse their imagined enemies with heinous crimes.

I've noticed this as well but it is not just Anglo-Saxons.

Anglo-Saxon:
The Anglo-Saxons were a cultural group who inhabited Great Britain from the 5th century. They comprise people from Germanic tribes who migrated to the island from continental Europe.

There are many different cultural groups with similar traits.

Indigenous people north and south were displaced, died of disease, and were killed by Europeans through slavery, rape, and war. In 1491, about 145 million people lived in the western hemisphere. By 1691, the population of indigenous Americans had declined by 90-95 percent, or by around 130 million people."

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

We have had an AA male president.
We could have an AA female president.
In all the years the US has existed, we have NEVER had a NA male or female president.
What do you think will happen with Mark Charles for 2020?
“‘We the people’ has never meant ‘all the people,’” said Independent presidential candidate Mark Charles, a member of the Navajo Nation, at the first-ever Native American presidential forum, held August 19 and 20 in Sioux City, Iowa.

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Mon 12/02/19 02:15 PM

If you actually read American history and the colonization of this land, you will see Americans and the Indians got along fabulously until over 50 years of our colonization. One of the big obstacles to Americans fighting Indians was the white culture and us not wanting to torture people during war. We were not against the Indians having warring factions however we were against torture. If you get your facts straight, maybe you will learn to understand about this country. We are far from perfect but show me where communism or socialism has worked? Cite one example where communism or socialism has worked! One more time, show me were communism or socialism has worked.

So funny how Americans get so defensive so easily over nothing. It isn't even about you, there is no "our colonization". It were Europeans who invaded another country.
I think you may need a bit more education on the matter. It didn't take 50 years for white people to attack NAs, nor to force them of their lands. It also weren't Americans living alongside NAs, they weren't Americans, but English or other Europeans, like Dutch, French etc.
And yes, the NAs were daft enough to be kind and keep the white people alive when they first arrived. They paid a high price for their kindness...

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Mon 12/02/19 06:10 PM
Warring and taking slaves has gon on since the beginning of time.
Warring and taking slaves is extremely prevalent today. Especially in the Middle east.
Tribes are conquered. Men , women and children are slaughtered.
The winners take what they want. They take slaves. Some for workers. Some for sex. Others for selling.
The world is littered with perverted trash who deal even with child sex slaves.
Saw a video the other day of a naked boy trying to escape from the palace in England. He lost his grip and fell. Who knows if the kid lived or how they disposed of the body.
Speaking of Indians, they warred with each other. They took slaves. Possibly for the same purposes the Mideasterners are doin today.
Google which group dealt with Africans in the early slave trading. They weren't just sold to Plantation owners. They were sold all through the South Seas areas.

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Mon 12/02/19 07:44 PM
As a black woman, this is how I see it.

I do not have the perspective on the Native American experience, not having walked in their shoes.

Now, the past often frames the present. The place of African Americans as substandard and property lasted from the 1600s to nearly the 1900s, or three centuries. That was followed by further INSTITUTIONAL unequal status through Jim Crow laws that lasted until 1960. That means that since the 1600s there has only been a little over half a century, or only two generations, that the INSTITUTIONAL law has not been that African Americans should be treated as inferiors.


The mind is powerful and basic values get passed down through generations. To me, this means that a very longstanding NATIONAL negative and inferior perception of African Americans has been enforced for 360 years compared to the only 60 since institutional inferior status has stopped being DIRECTLY enforced.

However, the consequences of that many years of having institutional second class status has not been anything good, and implicit bias tests have shown time and time again that the NATIONAL perspective of African Americans has not fared much better.

Add to that the way the educational system and the media 'represent' African Americans, and you generally have a bias that impacts all areas of the African American life, especially AA males. This is a bias I feel colors decisions with employment, justice, healthcare and many other areas of life.

In contrast, I don't personally feel the education system or media much represents Native Americans at all, so I would be surprised to see the same blatant negative bias existing for them, although it is quite possible it does.

I would be surprised if people clutch their purse around a native american, or if officers assume a threat when encountering a native american the way they would an african american male. The history does speak for itself. Today, we have laws that dont allow for the same blatant discrimination as before, but there is enough discretion that people can find many other reasons to hide behind when their actions and choices are colored by race.


I do not like to compare trauma or tragedy. I can only give my perspective as an African American female.

as an part afro American indigenous native American woman honey you can only go by what your people wrote in history books yes it was a best seller the schools tried to teach to my people i did not believe it then and i don't believe it now what was written was just an interpretation
of what the Anglo saxons white man wanted everyone to believe just because its written dosen't mean it's TRUE honey don't even go there you know nothing about being black or
Native American, you just made a fool out of yourself but for ignorance is bless I'm not pointing my finger at everyone out here just you sprinkling
Our lives matter honey you never will define any ethnicities in what you're read or what you think can prove I know who I'm am do you know who you are no that's what I thought thanks my sister for telling like it is this chick is not even close this IMHO it's to deen honey don't even go there,

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/02/19 09:23 PM
I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing.

Coldersky's photo
Tue 12/03/19 09:38 AM
can I interject this outside of many ethnicities being mistreated ((women))
have also way back I did study my women who fought for suffrage Afro American women right here in my home state of Mn Ms HellaQ Brown Mother Jones,Eleanor Roosevelt,Ok I think to get a better understanding of How Afro American folks were treated
My aunts and and Afro American teachers shared the truths with why and how i some of how this came to past these occurrences were mind you all past down to generations most of what a lot of family's know is unwritten Who truly knows what happening in this world how many Afro Americans and other people need to die before someone speaks up three hundred years cannot be wrong I have be not a victim of brutality but I have been followed to my job by suburban white police
it needs to stop my boss asked that officer what's going on here this is my partner folks you may want put yourself
in the historic people shoes that know about the gallows or the family's loved ones who were hung down home and read about the hangings in Duluth, mn
where the native Americans and Afro Americans were hung come on now the green book, good reads ain't I a woman
Harriet tubman, sojourner truth, Black moses, Books, the hate you give we have all been
Mistreated and Misunderstood but were not giving up I believe I'm an amazing woman it's history like or love it iam responsible for my contact controversial me,

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