Topic: Can the government force you to be vaccinated against covid
Larsson71's photo
Sat 05/30/20 08:23 AM




The government here in US cannot control people wearing Masks even.

Sheriff cannot arrest you if you don't.


Taking a vaccine is more serious . No, not happening in the USA. We are a Freedom County.


sure about that?

Police officer uses 'take-down' maneuver on Alabama shopper who wasn't wearing mask in viral video

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/08/alabama-woman-without-face-mask-police-officer-viral-video/3094159001/


It'd be interesting to see how the charge,
and/or, any appeals hold up in court.


Never crossed my mind that a policeman (or any man) would slam a woman down on her back and apply his knee as he handcuffs her. I saw the full video. She's not the type who will further humiliate herself by going to court.

And you Barbarians call us Indians a developing country!



There's a video online where just because a young girl, was a Christian, the people in her village, beat the **** out of her and then set the poor girl on fire. Absolute animals doing that! So don't sit there and pretend that everyone is so nice and welcoming in your country? For I for one know that's a load of shite! :rage::rage::rage:

no photo
Sat 05/30/20 10:01 AM





The government here in US cannot control people wearing Masks even.

Sheriff cannot arrest you if you don't.


Taking a vaccine is more serious . No, not happening in the USA. We are a Freedom County.


sure about that?

Police officer uses 'take-down' maneuver on Alabama shopper who wasn't wearing mask in viral video

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/08/alabama-woman-without-face-mask-police-officer-viral-video/3094159001/


It'd be interesting to see how the charge,
and/or, any appeals hold up in court.


Never crossed my mind that a policeman (or any man) would slam a woman down on her back and apply his knee as he handcuffs her. I saw the full video. She's not the type who will further humiliate herself by going to court.

And you Barbarians call us Indians a developing country!



There's a video online where just because a young girl, was a Christian, the people in her village, beat the **** out of her and then set the poor girl on fire. Absolute animals doing that! So don't sit there and pretend that everyone is so nice and welcoming in your country? For I for one know that's a load of shite! :rage::rage::rage:


That wasn't in India...

16-year-old girl beaten and burned alive by lynch mob in Rio Bravo, Guatemala

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/16-year-old-girl-beaten-and-burned-alive-by-lynch-mob-in-rio-bravo-guatemala-10271668.html

Dunno289's photo
Sat 05/30/20 11:37 AM
No the "government" (no such thing) answers to no one and pretty can do anything in their measure to get you to be a certain way for amusement.

Larsson71's photo
Sat 05/30/20 12:40 PM






The government here in US cannot control people wearing Masks even.

Sheriff cannot arrest you if you don't.


Taking a vaccine is more serious . No, not happening in the USA. We are a Freedom County.


sure about that?

Police officer uses 'take-down' maneuver on Alabama shopper who wasn't wearing mask in viral video

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/08/alabama-woman-without-face-mask-police-officer-viral-video/3094159001/


It'd be interesting to see how the charge,
and/or, any appeals hold up in court.


Never crossed my mind that a policeman (or any man) would slam a woman down on her back and apply his knee as he handcuffs her. I saw the full video. She's not the type who will further humiliate herself by going to court.

And you Barbarians call us Indians a developing country!



There's a video online where just because a young girl, was a Christian, the people in her village, beat the **** out of her and then set the poor girl on fire. Absolute animals doing that! So don't sit there and pretend that everyone is so nice and welcoming in your country? For I for one know that's a load of shite! :rage::rage::rage:


That wasn't in India...

16-year-old girl beaten and burned alive by lynch mob in Rio Bravo, Guatemala

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/16-year-old-girl-beaten-and-burned-alive-by-lynch-mob-in-rio-bravo-guatemala-10271668.html
You're watching the wrong video mate. As the one I seen last year was in India, 100%.

jaish's photo
Sat 05/30/20 04:04 PM
Edited by jaish on Sat 05/30/20 04:07 PM







The government here in US cannot control people wearing Masks even.

Sheriff cannot arrest you if you don't.


Taking a vaccine is more serious . No, not happening in the USA. We are a Freedom County.


sure about that?

Police officer uses 'take-down' maneuver on Alabama shopper who wasn't wearing mask in viral video

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/08/alabama-woman-without-face-mask-police-officer-viral-video/3094159001/


It'd be interesting to see how the charge,
and/or, any appeals hold up in court.


Never crossed my mind that a policeman (or any man) would slam a woman down on her back and apply his knee as he handcuffs her. I saw the full video. She's not the type who will further humiliate herself by going to court.

And you Barbarians call us Indians a developing country!



There's a video online where just because a young girl, was a Christian, the people in her village, beat the **** out of her and then set the poor girl on fire. Absolute animals doing that! So don't sit there and pretend that everyone is so nice and welcoming in your country? For I for one know that's a load of shite! :rage::rage::rage:


That wasn't in India...

16-year-old girl beaten and burned alive by lynch mob in Rio Bravo, Guatemala

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/16-year-old-girl-beaten-and-burned-alive-by-lynch-mob-in-rio-bravo-guatemala-10271668.html
You're watching the wrong video mate. As the one I seen last year was in India, 100%.


Hi Larson,
Welcome to Mingle!
Quite right, Women have been burnt here, as part of concealing evidence - after kidnap & rape. Also a Christian missionary - two plus decades ago - in tribal region. Also widows on their husbands funeral pyres - last was in 19th Century. A tradition formed from the days of Muslim invasions. Rape continues to be routine.

My point was:
First, my error was in referring to Wall Mart security personnel as a policeman; a representative of the State. I have no issues if a store security (non-state) flips a women customer to ground. Only if he were a policeman (government).

You see in India, only women police are authorized to arrest women. Policemen avoid anything wearing skirts. :smile:






mysticalview21's photo
Sun 05/31/20 04:22 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sun 05/31/20 04:26 AM
some may not want to hear this but I heard them say by wearing a mask you are protecting others an yourself from the droplet in the air ...I see so many state not wearing masks...including mine and someone said in a polite way if you wear a mask sooner or later... we all will not have to wear them but others that don't feel its a god given right ... and their right from the constitution ... ans is called The War of the Rebellion... some one who denies someone else facts for safely... and like they will never come down with any cold flu or becouse of this was deemed a hoax that was put out their first facts. and some believed so it started later... till over a hundreds of thousand died and counting ... I say if you can not help yourself think of you children's grand kids future... when in public wear a mask ...which this covid comes in many forms... TCBS...

mysticalview21's photo
Tue 06/02/20 04:02 PM



You already believe what you believe ., without proof .


I will leave the blame game to you .... am not looking to blame anyone .., All world leaders are accountable for their management of the pandemic .. ...scrutiny is to be expected . (Think of it as a performance review ) If trump has performed well as a leader he has nothing to lose sleep over :wink:
flowerforyou

I agree with you when a vaccine has been proven... I would get it ... I would not take what trump is taken ... even his own doc did not want to give this to him ... ? blondey ... some are saying now... don't need a mask ... they want to open churches now ... that is up to the church not anyone else ... it is being close to others ...that all have been concerned with in a tight quarters...
a lot has been canceled becouse some places may be more at risk... understandable ... my ? do you believe the hospitals are ready for the second wave of this ... I am trying to think positive ...about a vaccine... believe thats what is needed ... should we be made to take it ... not unless it has been proven safe ... but again that is up to the person... I always thought even for their children ... do not have to get shots due to religions... not sure about that tho... TCBS...
there is a lot of debate over the general public using masks ... a lot of it relates to improper use of the mask, style of mask used and effectiveness of the mask . Most of the masks used by the public do not prevent transmission of small aerosol particles . Masks which do not seal tightly against your face are unlikely to be very effective . Some masks lose their effectiveness after 20 mins of wear so wearing longer than their intended use is also likely to be ineffective .

As for hospital preparedness .. I would hope the last few months have highlighted major inadequacies in the health system to cope with a pandemic . Hopefully shortages of critical care staff, negative pressure isolation rooms , ppe , medical supplies and equipment will continue to be addressed . Many hospitals had issues with capacity and had to defer elective surgeries and cancer treatments . Staff were deployed from many areas to assist in critical care but may not have had the experience or support that was needed . Ideally we should have funding and services in place to care for both covid and non covid populations . Many Hospitals are now faced with not only a huge backlog of deferred surgeries but also lost funding generated by such procedures . Hospital emergency Contingency plans were
In most cases significantly underestimated .. and highlighted issues with expired and insufficient stockpiles of emergency supplies . I would hope hospitals are re-evaluating all deficits . Likewise I would hope governments are addressing Long-standing issues with underfunding and poor staffing ratios .

On a positive .. we now have experience in what is required to cope with covid . There is a global database of research findings and therapeutics that have helped . We now understand more about the virus and it’s capabilities . From that perspective we are in a better position to cope with a second wave waving
flowerforyou waving

Larsson71's photo
Sat 06/06/20 12:43 PM
England are flaunting their lockdown rules, however, here in Scotland, we've to remain on lockdown conditions and after a week here is the new results. US take note.... TODAY Saturday Corvid 19

Scotland 21 new infections 6 deaths

UK 1557 new infections 204 deaths.

Scotland is 8.2% of the UK POPULATION

Therefore if the rest of the UK was doing the same as Scotland the UK figures should be 256 new infections, 73 deaths.

Instead the rest of the UK HAS SIX TIMES THE LEVELS OF NEW INFECTIONS AND ALMOST THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF DEATHS.

I hope Jackson Carlaw is taking notes here and phoning 10, Downing Street to complain rather than griping about the Scottish Government performance.

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Sat 06/06/20 01:00 PM
In the US Covid-19 doesn't exist anymore.

It's all about protesting the death of a career criminal who was high on illegal drugs, caught while committing another felony then resisted arrest...

Larsson71's photo
Sat 06/06/20 01:18 PM

In the US Covid-19 doesn't exist anymore.

It's all about protesting the death of a career criminal who was high on illegal drugs, caught while committing another felony then resisted arrest...
Well this is the beginning of the 2nd wave of it over here, because selfish, ignorant people, can't stick to guidelines on social distancing, etc. They'll also be the first ones to bleat "Why us?" If they get infected. People are trying to go back to normal, too quickly, too soon, over here and it's leading to a Spike in new infections. Total craziness so it is!

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Wed 07/01/20 04:32 PM

Alan Dershowitz, DEM laywer says YES, the state has every right to plunge the needle into your arm. (from The Blaze radio media and Dershowitz on YouTube). Would YOU fight getting the shot?

Right wing bakers are worse. They believe they can be bigots in the name of the subjective value of morals, on a for-profit basis.

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/02/20 10:13 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 07/02/20 10:41 AM
I do not know really. They can 'force' us to not have public sex or 'force' us to wear clothes. These things are never really quite that simple when we have to live in a society and not in isolated status.

mysticalview21's photo
Fri 07/03/20 05:59 PM

Some countries do have compulsory vaccination programmes . ... Especially when there is a threat to public health .

In the case of covid .. as a healthcare professional I would have the vaccine (provided I am happy with its safety and efficacy ) .




and hope u let is know when that might be lol

be safe lady ... u have a hard job and you sacrifice everyday for us ...:heart:

no photo
Fri 08/14/20 05:39 PM
comes down to this
two kinds of people.
smart people - do what the government says. saves lives.
dont go to beaches isolate.

dump people - care about themselves only, spread it around, unsafe.
think the virus is a joke, until a family member gets it and dies.


but that is life. smart and stupid people, their own actions speak for themselves.
and we see a lot of these stupid people every day. I never want to know these people would you trust them with anyting.

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 11/15/20 06:47 PM

good job trump



Aldtrao's photo
Sun 11/15/20 09:29 PM

comes down to this
two kinds of people.
smart people - do what the government says. saves lives.
dont go to beaches isolate.

dump people - care about themselves only, spread it around, unsafe.
think the virus is a joke, until a family member gets it and dies.


but that is life. smart and stupid people, their own actions speak for themselves.
and we see a lot of these stupid people every day. I never want to know these people would you trust them with anyting.


“Smart“ people are the ones who do what the government says? So we have to trust the government to know everything for us? Wouldn’t that make us dumb by definition?

Truly smart people are those who do their own thinking, regardless of how the mindless mob of obedient government slaves feel about it.

This issue has nothing to do with only caring about ourselves. But you got that line of BS from trusting what the media mouthpieces told you instead of doing your own thinking.

You’re right about one thing though: there are two basic kinds of people, but they are these...
1) Those who have the patience to diligently seek the truth, and the courage to embrace it at any personal cost.
2) Those who are lazy and fearful cowards who just want to be told what to think and do, who will also lash out at you if you attempt to enlighten their dark reverie of selfish ignorance.

And yes, ignorance (the word is related to ignore) is selfish if your life is connected to anyone else's.

mysticalview21's photo
Tue 11/17/20 04:33 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Tue 11/17/20 05:08 AM
oops



I still believe Georgia has a couple of votes to win to the senate ... or will be a stale mate Dems can not go forward ... if they don't win ... it was much harder for president Obama under those conditions to get some thing passed ... but is all those demarcates and those on the fence... vote for the two demarcates in this states senate where on our way to building America back with more jobs an keeping them here ....for more jobs ...higher wages... better schools ... more help for covid 19 ... and so on that our county needs to get back some of our morals and stops the clashing ...of one another ... which does not help either ... just becouse you think that not wearing a mask is a special gift you have ... not to get this virus ... your wrong ... it puts everyone around u in a dangerous places ... where some could die ... and yourself also... u may think it is your right but really is not becouse your taking another life and that is murder ... might want to think about that the nxt time your in public ...or at want to rally with out masks... republican or not ...
it is one of the most serous things you can do for your own family ...

I am going to think of this story ... man in the hospital dying ... doc came in to treat him and the nurses ... he said I am going to be fine god want let me die ... so all the specialist where sent in ... told them I am not going god will save me ... well the man died ... and them confronts god ... why did you let me die ... he said I did not let you die ... I gave you all the help I could... with the nurses.... doctor specialist ... I sent in for you ...you refused them ... that is why u died... now think of all those care givers doctors nurses specialists and all those that serve people out there ...that may help you ... or your children ... and be thankful of all of them in your own beliefs...


We are all looking to get through this virus ... and you may need unexpected
hands to help you ... maybe just like me ... but here is the thing ... that new medicine for covid will not be ready for awhile heard ...till about spring but the studies have been good an need FDA clearing ... and it also has to stay at a certain Temp and to ship in some way but its all being work on ... so we have to try and have save our own health until this happens ... and the only way this can be done ->is wear a mask and clean your hands an social distance ... TCBS... in your travels ...

Aldtrao's photo
Tue 11/17/20 09:27 AM
I just got a first look at AstraZeneca’s new Covid-19 vaccine. It says right on the package that it contains cells from an aborted male Caucasian baby, as well as recombinant DNA. Additionally, the company says that they are urgently seeking an artificial intelligence software tool to process the expected high volume of adverse effects their vaccine will cause.

I’ll pass.

motowndowntown's photo
Tue 11/17/20 09:42 AM
Unbelievable what some folks believe.

Don't want the vaccine? Don't get vaccinated.

Hopefully it will relieve some of the overcrowding at the shallow end of the gene pool that has been happening lately.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 11/17/20 10:18 AM
Gotta remember to consider Which Government?.

As far as I know, there are many.
Not all are the same when dealing with their citizens.