Dying while pursuing your passion is what has made this country great. “Not to smart” for a rag-tag militia to take on the biggest , strongest army 247 years ago, but the “ not to smart” prevailed. In 1960 president Kennedy proposed a “ not to smart “ challenge of putting a man on the moon and we prevailed. ..So saying that these passionate explorers of the uncertain “are not to smart” is just a excuse to not try. Thank God the vast majority of our citizens don’t have that attitude.

no they dont, they had like 96 hours of air and some recent reports say it imploded, if you wanna know whats this implotion search on youtube, might be the best example of their tragedy

Those folks weren't later day Magellans charting the new world, or test pilots pushing the limits of aviation. Nor were they Neal Armstrongs leading us into the beyond. They were rich thrill seekers going on what they thought was a very expensive amusement park ride so they could brag to their friends at cocktail parties. And they put their lives in the hands of a man who was doing the equivalent of riding a bicycle on the interstate and thumbing his nose at convention and safety in the name of "freedom".

saving lives and ocean life are my ultimate passions Moto . I had no doubt as to how slim the odds were for survival and recovery of the crew on Titan . A very sad outcome for all involved remarkable that Titan’s debris field was located .

Hi Etsin any loss of life is a tragedy Who do you think should be held accountable for the migrant lives lost ..the country they fled from ? the country they were fleeing to ? Countries who failed to help save lives ? There is seldom fairness in life or death . The world is not a fair place .

Magellan was just a sailor until he circumnavigated the earth, chuck yeager was just a pilot until he broke the sound barrier. We know more about space than we know about our own oceans and what’s underneath the surface. Any undersea expedition no matter how important it may seem is knowledge for the next one..

The issue is for a pertinent thread and not this one to comment about.

then why did you post your comment and not start your own thread ? ?

To be fair I would say this thread is no longer viable so it is okay to turn attention to your post ., unless of course you have nothing to say on the matter

I posted in order to point out the vast contrast between the efforts to rescue the five passengers of OceanGate, and the hundreds of migrants aboard a boat that was about to capsize off the Greek coast.

I won't start a thread for the topic of migrants and refugees, but I do have more to say on the matter in such a thread.

Generally migrants flee because they think they will die if they stay where they are at, or their life is so bad that they are willing to risk it to try something new. If we go and save those people that just encourages other people to try and escape, which could cause more harm in the long run. If we are willing to pick them up out at sea, then why don't we pick them up before they get on the boat? Why don't we go to every country and pick up anybody who wants to go? It's where do we draw the line? Sometimes it's because of the government or gangs that run the country. Other wise it can be good shortage or economic reasons. There is only so much that people can do to help these people without having millons of others expecting the same.

Not sure we should say this thread is over just because the sub imploded and the people died. I think there are still things to learn and think about, things like this will always happen but maybe we can minimize it.
As was brought up earlier would you rather live a possibly shorter exciting life? Or a possibly longer boring life? Remember a split second can alter or end anybody's life at anytime.
What gets me is when people do something stupid that endangers others. We shouldn't have to put other lives at risk to save your life. What have we accomplished by putting people into space? It's very costly and dangerous and I don't see any benefits in the near future. Scuba diving you are relying on mechanical functions, something goes wrong and the only hope you have is a back up. Rock climbing, I ain't going to come peel you off the side of the mountain. Skiing or snowmobiling in an avalanche area, who's going to dig you out while risking another avalanche? I'm not saying don't go out and do these things, just don't look for help or sympathy when something goes wrong.
I know a guy who has spent the last 2 years building an airplane out of wood and fabric, people have been doing it for 100 years. I said I have some carbon fiber, there are better ways of doing it now from what we have learned. He asked for my help building it but I don't need that on my conscious, he has offered to take me up in it but I guess I don't have that much of a death wish.
Go out and have fun, just think about what you are doing and what could happen.

Oceangate already has help wanted ads on
the internet, seeking new crew members.