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Topic: WAR IN ISRAEL!
Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Thu 10/19/23 07:48 AM
Edited by Ɔʎɹɐx on Thu 10/19/23 07:57 AM

Israel is an occupying state according to the international law, usually kills civilians during wars. FACT

Including those who two days ago were at the courtyard of Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza?

why would there be any exception in any case?!
but on the other hand... I don't believe what happened in Al-Ahli Baptist hospital was caused by an Israeli air strike... I watched the videos and the pictures from ground zero... barely any destruction, with large burnt area... Most probably caused by a failing local made Palestinian rocket which usually has a small warhead and a large amount of fuel to travel as far as possible...
If an Israeli air strike was responsible for that, you would have seen the whole Hospital turned into rubble as what happened with complete neighborhoods in Gaza that were hit by Israeli missiles..
but that doesn't change the fact that Israeli air raids have killed so far almost 3000 Palestinians, from which the majority are civilians, and that Hamas killed almost 1500 Israelis, again with the majority being civilians

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Fri 10/20/23 12:18 AM
The airstrike on the Hospital in Gaza came on day 11 in the current conflict, with a growing international chorus of non-governmental groups and world leaders saying the Israeli bombing campaign on the besieged Gaza Strip – including healthcare facilities, homes, and houses of worship – violates international law and may constitute a war crime.
In the days before the attack on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza, the church supervising it got three Israeli orders to evacuate the facility, the Anglican Church in Jerusalem said.
“We received three orders to evacuate the hospital, on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. The hospital was bombed on Tuesday,” Anglican Archbishop Hosam Naoum told a press conference on Wednesday.
“Most of these orders were given over the phone,” he added.
The archbishop called the hospital blast a “crime” and “massacre.”
“What we know at least is that there are many buildings, homes, and many places that were bombed in Israeli raids,” he added, speaking of Gaza, where the hospital is located. “These are facts on the ground,” he added.

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Fri 10/20/23 01:54 AM

The airstrike on the Hospital in Gaza came on day 11 in the current conflict, with a growing international chorus of non-governmental groups and world leaders saying the Israeli bombing campaign on the besieged Gaza Strip – including healthcare facilities, homes, and houses of worship – violates international law and may constitute a war crime.
In the days before the attack on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza, the church supervising it got three Israeli orders to evacuate the facility, the Anglican Church in Jerusalem said.
“We received three orders to evacuate the hospital, on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. The hospital was bombed on Tuesday,” Anglican Archbishop Hosam Naoum told a press conference on Wednesday.
“Most of these orders were given over the phone,” he added.
The archbishop called the hospital blast a “crime” and “massacre.”
“What we know at least is that there are many buildings, homes, and many places that were bombed in Israeli raids,” he added, speaking of Gaza, where the hospital is located. “These are facts on the ground,” he added.



but the area where this massacre took place isn't destroyed... only burnt cars, cars aren't even shattered or crushed.
That's not what an Israeli air to surface missile does.
Israel has already destroyed half of Gaza and killed thousands. No need to fake something to prove your point

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Fri 10/20/23 02:25 AM
Edited by Ɔʎɹɐx on Fri 10/20/23 02:26 AM
It's ironic how I was discussing this massacre with a German friend during the first hour... I told her that it was definitely an Israeli air strike because no Hamas rocket could cause this huge damage and casualties (at that time there were still no clear pictures from the hospital, and the announced casualties were +500 which I believe now to be exaggerated)
I told her that Hamas Rockets had small warheads and large amount of fuel. So they could never destroy a hospital (that's what I thought at that time) , they could most probably cause a fire
the next day pictures and videos started to float around, and they proved exactly what I was trying to deny...
She called me and asked me if I was somehow involved in that shish since I knew exactly how things went on from the first hour!

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Fri 10/20/23 04:19 AM
As these terrorists and their supporters like Congress woman Rashida Talib and a few here on mingle2, keep spreading the lies with their hatred of Jews, we know they will never admit the truth. There is so much proof that hospital was hit by Hamas rockets. Even the Muslim news outlet Al- Jazara said the rocket came from Hamas during a rocket barrage launched over that hospital into Israel . When you start assigning blame of death and destruction on one group before you know the facts , it’s clear you are not interested in knowing the truth, you only want to spread your hate.

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Fri 10/20/23 05:04 AM

Even the Muslim news outlet Al- Jazara said the rocket came from Hamas during a rocket barrage launched over that hospital into Israel .

On the contrary, Aljazeera has made it clear by its reports that it was an Israeli air strike. Al-Jazeerah is funded by the Qatari government which is a major ally of the Muslims Brotherhood Movement (Hamas is the Palestinian branch of this Movement).. and AJazeera will never blame it on Hamas even if they had clear evidences... add to that I have been watching Aljazeerah most of the time and they never mentioned something similar.
If you have any link about that please share, it will be interesting to read

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Fri 10/20/23 05:06 AM
And to be more exact it was most probably a missile barrage by the Islamic Jihad that hit the hospital Parking Lot.. Not Hamas.

Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 10/20/23 04:52 PM

And to be more exact it was most probably a missile barrage by the Islamic Jihad that hit the hospital Parking Lot.. Not Hamas.


They all terrorists!

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Sat 10/21/23 01:07 AM


And to be more exact it was most probably a missile barrage by the Islamic Jihad that hit the hospital Parking Lot.. Not Hamas.


They all terrorists!

Not Freedom Fighters?

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Sat 10/21/23 04:02 AM
Not gonna happen, Dulla. :sunglasses::grin:

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Sun 10/22/23 01:08 AM


I don't care if any international body of people declares anything.

exactly, that's exactly how religious people think..



then out of your own words you are condeming yourself.
Matthew 15
8. This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
10. And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11. Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
ANOTHERWORDS you judged yourself, and you own actions will condemn you.

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Sun 10/22/23 04:25 AM
Seeking friends; who are you talking to?

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Sun 10/22/23 04:34 AM

The first Jewish state in the world
In 1928 AD, that is, about 20 years before the declaration of the establishment of Israel, Stalin decided to grant the Jews a homeland in Russia, and he officially established for them the “the Jewish Province,” which enjoys self-rule, with its capital (Birobidzhan).
Stalin sent his envoys to the United States, Europe, and Palestine, and these envoys carried a clear message to the Jews and to the governments of the countries in which they lived, which was that Stalin recognized the special status of the Jews, and had decided to grant them an autonomous republic in which they could build their own entity and independent personality, while allowing them to establish their own schools. The envoys carried photo albums showing the Jews of Birobidzhan working in their fields, and their children playing in schools bearing Hebrew names.
In addition to all of this, Stalin decided to grant every Jew upon his arrival in Birobidzhan to settle there a sum of 600 Rubles - a large sum by the standards of that time - to help him build his new life in his self-republic. Indeed, Jews from all over the world came there in search of a better life.
But the Zionist movement accepted the Birobidzhan project as a station and experiment for immigration to Palestine.
During the disintegration of the Soviet Union, this republic was eligible to declare independence from the Russian Federation, but Zionism prevented this from happening because it was planning to seize Palestine.
Features of Birobidzhan for Jews
Its population density is small and it is capable of settling all the Jews of the world, including the Jews who are usurping the land of Palestine
A safe country for Jews to live in peace and enjoy the atmosphere of Jewish culture without any anti-Semitism, as global Zionism is currently promoting.
Why does this idea conflict with the goals of global Zionism and Western countries?
Because the existence of the Israel in the Arab world and the Middle East is based on the exchange of benefits in protecting Western interests and relying on it to carry out proxy wars at times.
The establishment of Israel on the basis of religious fanaticism aims to swallow up more of the lands of neighboring Arab countries with the support of the Zionist movement and Western colonialism.


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Sun 10/22/23 04:41 AM
Yet you say Muslims have the same God as Abraham. Well, what land did Abraham's God, GIVE Israel? You should back up what you say. It's either Muslims believe in YHWH... The same God the Israelites and Abraham had, or not.

LUNG1954's photo
Mon 10/23/23 12:36 AM

Yet you say Muslims have the same God as Abraham. Well, what land did Abraham's God, GIVE Israel? You should back up what you say. It's either Muslims believe in YHWH... The same God the Israelites and Abraham had, or not.

YHWH a name of God, transliterated by scholars from the Tetragrammaton and commonly rendered Jehovah.
The Tetragrammaton, is the four-letter Hebrew theonym יהוה‎, the name of God in the Hebrew Bible. The four letters, written and read from right to left, are yodh, he, waw, and he. The name may be derived from a verb that means "to be", "to exist", "to cause to become", or "to come to pass".
The Lord is one
Jacob was at the period from 1837 to 1690 B.C.
When death approached Jacob, he said to his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God."
Old Testament
Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!
Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
After 1400 years
The Bible
Mark 12;32 The scribe said to Him, "Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that HE IS ONE, AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDES HIM;
The Quran: “Say, 'He is God the One, God the eternal. He begot no one nor was He begotten. No one is comparable to Him'

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Mon 10/23/23 03:05 AM
And? You didn't answer my question. If it was the same God you claim Muslims worship, why would they not allow Israel the land He gave Israel?

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Mon 10/23/23 05:26 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Mon 10/23/23 05:28 AM
OP asks rhetorically "does the world not care?"...
I think maybe we've gotten numb in that aspect.
I've grown up hearing day in day out about the war in Israel region.

Since the allied forces arranged for the Jews to get land in Israel -originally the country of the Palestinians- it has been messed up.
The original people -Palestinians- were quickly pushed out to make space for the many Jews.
So it has been this way ever since the Jews set foot on land there.

Which now would be at least 75 years given a place there post-WW2. The idea had been to peacefully co-habit with the Palestinians.
That went t*ts up and guess who's to blame...

In any case, caring about it does wear thin after some 75 years of hearing the same shizzel every day.
It means 27.375 days at least!
For people under the age of 75 this has been daily occurrence, meaning it's everyone's normal when under 75.
I've grown up hearing this every day. It's like being told every day "Grass is green!" Would you care about that? Not really as you already know this. We learnt as children grass is green and Israel equals war.

Generally we don't get upset about things that are considered normal.

War is sad. They should start talking and put their huge egos aside.
I mean, if they can agree to hold truce over Christmas, they can also agree on maybe ending this Never Ending Misery.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 10/23/23 05:30 AM

And? You didn't answer my question. If it was the same God you claim Muslims worship, why would they not allow Israel the land He gave Israel?

"He" didn't give them Israel. The allied forced did in some agreement after WW2 as no one knew where to go with the many Jews and no one wanted them in their own country.
So they threw them on Palestinians' shoulders.

The Jews were supposed to peacefully co-habit in their guest country. Didn't work out so well...

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Mon 10/23/23 08:10 AM
:joy: Yes He did. Read your Bible.

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Mon 10/23/23 09:03 AM
So the Jews were supposed to have done away with the Canaanites per Gods instruction but they disobeyed. If they had done so where would we be now with this conflict ?

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