Im for the draft just because of all the teens that have no respect or
direction. Dicipline builds charactor... for those who live thru it
anyway. Mabe they should start by rounding up all the gang members and
using them for front line fodder. Someone has to crawl around in the
underground complexxes. Just a thought.... BUT THEN THEY WOULD PROBABLY
KILL EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF THE ENEMY.. ?Problem still solved?
I agree that the politicians kids should be on the short list too..2nd
in line behind the gang bangers.

yep!!! they may have to stop playing their x box and hike up their
pants!

Kinda funny that SOME of the ppl that are all for the draft on here are
too old to get drafted. Pretty easy to support an ugly proposition when
it won't affect you directly. Do you have kids? Are they old enough to
get drafted? If so, why wait? Why not just drive 'em on down to the
local recruitment centre and sign 'em up?
It's real easy to sit at a puter and mouth fatuities, but it AIN'T that
easy to actually put yer money where yer mouths are.

Those that have already served their countries in a combat zone need not
reply negatively to this post. You have done your job and you at least
have the background to discuss this topic intelligently.

SOUNDS LIKE I HIT A SORE SPOT! MAYBE ALL THE MOMS KIDS WOULD GROW UP AND
GET A LIFE RATHER THAN SIT ON THEIR ASS AT A MCDONALDS OR STAR BUCKS!
MOST YOUNG PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHAT A HARD DAYS WORK IS!AND YES I WOULD BE
GLAD TO DRIVE THEM DOWN TO ENLIST! I GUESSWHEN I WAS WORKING THAT I FELT
THAT THAT IS WHAT I HAD TO DO TO GET THINGS IN LIFE BUT MOST... NOT ALL
WONT EVEN GET THEIR HANDS DIRTY ! IVE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN!....
ALOT OF SOFT PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE!!!

there are good arguments on both sides but i'm in favor of a draft. it
is a completely valid point to say that someone who doesn't volunteer
does not fight well but some of the people that volunteer don't want to
fight either. they will fight when the battle starts or they will die.
just because they institue a draft does not mean that it has to be
active . they will draft a few during peace time but i don't think it
would be an obscene number or anything because you have more volunteers
than ever(before iraq anyway).

Did you read my essay?

Just imagine, if you came back from Iraq or Affganistan, and driving
down the road you saw crackheads standing on the corner selling their
goods, and when you get a job doing construction, half of your coworkers
weren't even American! How would you feel?

i wouldn't care but that is my opinion.

Opinion's are good, I'm interested?

Kingbreeze. The difference between volonteering and draft is that
volonteering you make the decision, knowing the risks involved, to join
in the armed forces of your nation. A draftee has that choice removed.
It's making the decision that makes for a better soldier, going in with
your eyes wide open.
A Soviet general was once asked what he feared most most. His response
was "Canadian troops with American equipment on German soil."

Yes Karma. But even the all Volunteer's force is shaky.

You have those who just want to reap the benefits of the military and
not really want to serve.

When a war is started they try to file for Conscious Objector some
fucking BS like that shit!

Hasn't happened here yet. Though we did have some Americans come up here
when the biological waste hit the rotating blades. It may be because of
differences in the two forces's recruiting techniques, tarining,
beifits. Can't answer that one.

my opinion is formed off my personal experiences and the fact that i was
going to join the marines when i was younger and the decision to join
was based on my desire to serve my country and defend the constituion
that members of my family fought for in previous wars(even though i
don't often agree with the decisions being made by the poiticians who
are sending us there). that decision was made(even at a young age)with
the realization that that the whole world(not just the u.s.)is a pretty
shitty place with all the lowlifes running around on the streets but
they are not the ones that i would be defending this country for. the
people i would be defending it for would be the honest, hard working
people who struggle just as much as the lowlifes but still maintain
their cgaracter and integrity by keeping their nose to the grindstone
and sacrificing for their families the way my role models did for
theirs.
they always tell the troops when they go in to stay out of the politics
of why you are there and do your job. it may sound pretty simple but
that is my opinion and it was not a difficult conclusion to come to.
let me just say that i was not able to join but if they instituted the
draft and for some reason i was able to go, i would.

Well I'm 51 and found out I can enlist Reserve. So the cigs are going
and in the spring after a bit of exercise I'm (hopefully) back in the
green machine. Can't get back into infantry but can get into Military
Police.

i understand the difference and have put alot of thought into how i feel
about the choices i make and why. this just happens to be one of the
things that not alot of people agree with me on(nothin new)but i always
follow my own advice and would never make a comment on anything if i did
not follow it or live.
i understand that this is a powerful discussion for alot of people as i
had a grandpa and a stepdad who were drafted and an uncle who joined
voluntarily. i know what is at stake for families and people but when
you consider your point(as i will)will you at least consider mine and
add that we have soldiers in iraq who are terribly over extended on
their tours because we don't have enough man power to cover the globe
and i'm sure a weary soldier does not completely have their mind on what
they are doing especially since they are missing their families as well.
they do a good job and they need to be brought home.
i appreciate both of your comments though and i can see a little of
where you are coming from. i'm not disagreeing with you because you are
right on the points(fanta, i did not read your essay btw)i just came to
a different conclusion and that is part of the things that make this the
best country on the earth....take care guys

that's cool man. i wish you the best of luck in your journey and anyone
who walks with you. maybe one day they will change things so that i can
get in but as of right now it ain't lookin like it will ever happen

Take care. I do understand about your troops being over extended trust
me. Some of the Canadians who have bought it in Afghanistan are
Reservists. We are also over extended.

i know and none of them should be left out there for so long. it's not
like they are on a f'in camping trip out there. they need to come home
and rest and get back to a semi normal life for a bit. i don't want to
turn this into a political thing and ruin the post but i'm sure you can
already see how i feel about iraq and nobody should be their in the
first place, we should all be in afghanistan.

nd any fast moving flyboys. They don't like us. lol

Beginning of that didn't type out. Should read: Just don't send any fast
moving flyboys.

lol



i read your essay fanta and i don't know what your reply that you
mentioned will be but i agree with the essay that was posted.