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Topic: he 935 Lies Of George W. Bush
madisonman's photo
Sun 02/03/08 06:16 PM
Yes, you already knew. But now they're actually quantifiable. Like, say, stab wounds.
By Mark Morford
Oh sweet Jesus, someone actually counted.

Two independent nonprofit journalism groups apparently took enough laudanum and beat down whatever healthy sense of human decency they had in order to plunge straight into that quivering mountain of incompetence that is the official record of the Bush administration, all the false quotes and all the lie-strewn press conferences and all the squinty-eyed fabrications from Dubya, Colin Powell, Condi and Cheney and Rummy et al, that took place in the two years after September 11, 2001, and added them all up.

Is it helpful to know the exact number? Does it make a difference? After all, presidential lying isn't exactly a revelation. Pretty much a national pastime, really. Hell, Bill Clinton lied in a harmless civil lawsuit, and was even impeached for it. Of course, his little oral fixation didn't lead us into an unwinnable trillion-dollar war that will scar the nation for multiple generations and which has wasted 4,000 American lives and resulted in tens of thousands of wounded, crippled and brain-damaged U.S. soldiers. But that's just splitting hairs, really.

After all, it's common knowledge that, say, George Bush Sr. lied about Iran-Contra and "read my lips," Ronald Reagan lied like a nasty old rug about Iran and aiding the Contras, Lyndon Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin to gain support for the Vietnam war, Harry Truman probably lied about Hiroshima and John F. Kennedy probably lied about the Bay of Pigs and, well, all presidents lie, really, to some degree or another and with varying degrees of success and historic consequence. Is it not sort of pointless to whine about it?

Fair enough. But there is something truly special about Bush 43. Something so unique, so poisonous and strange that historians are busy right this minute rewriting not only their books, but their entire way of thinking about how we measure and interpret political malfeasance.

It has to do with matters of scale. It has to do with audacity, with sheer recklessness, with Bush Co's stunning contempt for all national and international law and historic precedent and human decency. It is the sense that, at bare minimum, the most significant lies told by previous administrations were, by and large, not massive, calculated stabs to the very heart and infrastructure of the entire nation. They were not designed, as Bush's clearly were, specifically to pervert the entire American experiment, to violently shift us from peace-promoting and defense-oriented protector to an arrogant, insular, pre-emptive attacker, widely loathed and mistrusted worldwide.

See, Bush Co rewrote the formulas. From WMD to tax cuts, AmeriCorp to Iraq, this administration has officially reset the bar to an all-time low as to what's possible for a truly dreadful, inept president to get away with without some sort of significant repercussion, impeachment, numerous lightning bolts raining down on his soft little monkey skull. Sure, it took leveraging America's most brutal and heartbreaking tragedy in a generation to pull it off, but does the fact the administration exploited 9/11 like a pedophile exploits a child take anything away from the astonishing depth of the abuse?

But maybe you still argue that, even at a whopping 935 calculated lies told specifically to lead us into a bogus war, it makes no difference. Maybe you argue that a lie is a lie and Bush is no better or worse than Clinton or Reagan and here is a giant cocktail of jaded, raging apathy. Let's all chug it together, shall we?

http://www.issuesandalibis.org/

madisonman's photo
Sun 02/03/08 07:18 PM

Although you made an attempt to present yourself as an intelligent, bipartisan commentator, you reek of hatred and total ignorance of facts. You wallow in your own pig sty of pessimistic critic of others.

You, a far left liberal narcisist, use your style of writing to try to paint over your own venomous lies that you ovewhelmingly spew out of your own mouth 24/7.

Are you such a narcisist that your brain cannot comprehend that a simple, normal, common everyday human being is quite competent to figure out the facade that you attempt to hide behind?

Sweet Jesus - madisonman - do not take Christians' Lord and Saviour's name in vain, that is if you are able rid yourself of your narcisism long enough to be able to accomplish this simple feat of respect for the Lord Jesus Christ, who, fortunately for you, came to this earth to forgive us our sins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OruQy-X32O0

Zapchaser's photo
Sun 02/03/08 08:09 PM

Although you made an attempt to present yourself as an intelligent, bipartisan commentator, you reek of hatred and total ignorance of facts. You wallow in your own pig sty of pessimistic critic of others.

You, a far left liberal narcisist, use your style of writing to try to paint over your own venomous lies that you ovewhelmingly spew out of your own mouth 24/7.

Are you such a narcisist that your brain cannot comprehend that a simple, normal, common everyday human being is quite competent to figure out the facade that you attempt to hide behind?

Sweet Jesus - madisonman - do not take Christians' Lord and Saviour's name in vain, that is if you are able rid yourself of your narcisism long enough to be able to accomplish this simple feat of respect for the Lord Jesus Christ, who, fortunately for you, came to this earth to forgive us our sins.


No, tell us what you REALLY think. :wink:

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Sun 02/03/08 08:11 PM
:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: Amen!!! Lindyy - you go girl:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:

Dragoness's photo
Sun 02/03/08 08:19 PM

Although you made an attempt to present yourself as an intelligent, bipartisan commentator, you reek of hatred and total ignorance of facts. You wallow in your own pig sty of pessimistic critic of others.

You, a far left liberal narcisist, use your style of writing to try to paint over your own venomous lies that you ovewhelmingly spew out of your own mouth 24/7.

Are you such a narcisist that your brain cannot comprehend that a simple, normal, common everyday human being is quite competent to figure out the facade that you attempt to hide behind?

Sweet Jesus - madisonman - do not take Christians' Lord and Saviour's name in vain, that is if you are able rid yourself of your narcisism long enough to be able to accomplish this simple feat of respect for the Lord Jesus Christ, who, fortunately for you, came to this earth to forgive us our sins.



noway noway noway laugh Madison didn't write that it was a reporter who wrote that.noway

And baby shrubs lies and manipulation are well known to those without the rosecolored glasses he tried to paint on everyone's faces. There are plenty of us who saw the evil for what it was prior to his destruction of our beautiful country. Believe me there are alot of us out here.

no photo
Sun 02/03/08 08:26 PM
Wow Lindyy what a 1st post. I just deleted what I was going to say because I don't want to be hateful & hypocritical. Welcome to JSH you have pretty eyes.

Lindyy's photo
Sun 02/03/08 09:35 PM
I am well aware that madisonman quoted another individual's article. But, when one does such an act it is their express intention of stating that that is what that person his/her self believes and would have written it themselves if they had the intellect to do so.

Our beloved country has not been destroyed in any way shape or form. Perhaps disgraced by acts which certain individuals have said or done such as the Dixie Chicks, Jimmy Carter, Jane Fonda, but the USA will never be destroyed. Just relive in your mind the events of 9/11 and how we as a country banded together, set differences aside, and recovered stronger than ever.

President George W. Bush, along with the entire House, Senate, etc. had the same EXACT information regarding Hussein. The vast majority all agreed that military action had to be taken against Saadam Hussein. Remember my dear, if you would speak out against the leader/government of countries such as Iraq, Iran, you would get the pleasure of being beheaded, put through a plastic shredder, tortured, limbs cut off, poisoned, and on and on.

As a citizen of the USA you were blessed by being born into a democratic country were you have the freedom of speach.

You seem to be hung up on alleged lies also. First, let me state, that the media miscontrues many, many verbal statements made by our leaders. Why, do you ask, that they allegedly lie, if that is, indeed how you feel? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. End of subject.

President George W. Bush, and all of our prior Presidents did what they felt was the best for our country. They put themselves out into the political arena to be exposed for every ounce of criticism that one could make, yet they still chose the path to lead our country to the best of their ability.

NO ONE wants war. Take a look at the USA's own history. The Civil War, you did learn that in history class, did you not? We would not be the country we are today if it were not for wars, even within our own boundaries. FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY COMES WITH A HEAVY PRICE, IT IS NOT 'FREE.'

The terrorists fear President George W. Bush because he is a strong leader, he does not waiver, he stands the course. They greatly anticipate his end of his presidency. Would you rather have the pleasure of being beheaded like you would be in Iraq under the rule of Sadaam Hussein? My dear, that is what would happen if the USA turned its head at every shameful, heinous act commited by countries such as Iraq, Sudan, etc.

The USA military is one of voluntarily joining. There IS NO LONGER A MILITARY DRAFT such as there was during the Viet Nam war. The brave men and women who comprise our military today do at their own free will because they love their country. ONE RIGHT YOU DO NOT HAVE IS TO TELL SOMEONE WHAT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT FEEL OR DO specifically our wonderful military.

Let me explain the purpose of our militry - simply put, it is there to defend our country. So that you may comprehend what I am trying to get you to understand, it is like football, not only does our military have to perform DEFENSIVELY, it first and foremost, must perform OFFENSIVELY. If we do not, 9/11's would be an everyday common occurrence in our country. Also, being on the offense and defense to the call of other countries so that they too are able to live in a democracy is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO THE USA MAINTAINING OUR FREEDOM.

I pray every day for my beloved USA. I cannot thank God enough for the honor of living in this great country.


Lindyy

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 02/03/08 10:13 PM
Probably lied?

State facts that are noted in legitimate ways, not to say all liberal sites are illegitimate but a lot of them are way off. First off every president has screwed up at some time in their term, either with a hidden agenda and/or overseas obligations/responsibilities, that is a fact. As for the affect over the general population of the US some of these screw ups are hardly note-worthy. Of the presidents I know perhaps the largest of the screw ups has undoubtedly been Bush Jr., however it started with Sr. Also, our country is being destroyed economically by Mr. Bush's many blunders over money-Fact Bill Clinton reserved billions upon billions of dollars for the United States economy in which Bush Jr. blew through in a matter of a few years, so yes our country is (persay) being destroyed if you take into account that the economy is really what makes or breaks a country (ala Russia).

madisonman's photo
Mon 02/04/08 01:41 AM
Lady I dont know what type of parralel universe you live in or if you graduated from Liberty University or what, yes I am no master of the english language I am a workingstiff. no bones about it. but I do live in reality. were to begin with your holyier than though tirades. I supose the easiest thing to say is that yes all branches of the government got the same cooked inteligence on IRAQ. Its well documented at this point how much of that inteligence was faked. try googling the Downing street memos http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/840 as for our peacefull intentions in the world I simply sugest you look up some history, no country on this planet has been in more conflicts since 1945 than our peace loveing nation. Asfar as our volunteer ARMY that loves its country and joins for patriotism thats simply a joke, when i was in the service 99 out of a 100 guys joined due to economic reasons. I am sure this is going to get interesting but I am off to work, you have a nice day and god blessdrinker

holland01's photo
Mon 02/04/08 01:43 AM
too long/didnt read

madisonman's photo
Mon 02/04/08 01:47 AM

too long/didnt read
The Downing Street Minutes are short, to the point, and shocking. They make clear that
1. Bush had already decided to go to war long before approaching Congress or the public or the UN about it, and had already started the attack with increased bombings;
2. Bush had already decided to lie about weapons of mass destruction and ties to 9-11;
3. The Brits were concerned by the illegality of an aggressive war, but the Bush Administration was not;
4. Going to the UN was an attempt to justify the war, and the hope was to craft an ultimatum that Saddam Hussein would reject;
5. The focus of the Bush and Blair administrations was on selling the war to the public, and not at all on trying to avoid it;
6. The Bush and Blair administrations were aware that Iraq was no threat, and were willing to attack Iraq precisely because it posed no serious threat of fighting back.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6981

madisonman's photo
Mon 02/04/08 01:50 AM
Sun 02/03/08 09:35 PM
I am well aware that madisonman quoted another individual's article. But, when one does such an act it is their express intention of stating that that is what that person his/her self believes and would have written it themselves if they had the intellect to do so.

Although you made an attempt to present yourself as an intelligent, bipartisan commentator, you reek of hatred and total ignorance of facts. You wallow in your own pig sty of pessimistic critic of others.

You, a far left liberal narcisist, use your style of writing to try to paint over your own venomous lies that you ovewhelmingly spew out of your own mouth 24/7.
laugh

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 02/04/08 02:49 AM
Sorry, but again I must point out that our economy is being destroyed not the country as a whole but the inner workings. Think of Russia when they turned from communism to a democracy, their entire economy failed...though more dramatic than the current situation, our situation could be headed in the same direction only democracy would fall with the economy. And the draft does still exist though hasn't been used since vietnam and certain loose ends were tied such as the age of draft eligible people.


I am well aware that madisonman quoted another individual's article. But, when one does such an act it is their express intention of stating that that is what that person his/her self believes and would have written it themselves if they had the intellect to do so.

Our beloved country has not been destroyed in any way shape or form. Perhaps disgraced by acts which certain individuals have said or done such as the Dixie Chicks, Jimmy Carter, Jane Fonda, but the USA will never be destroyed. Just relive in your mind the events of 9/11 and how we as a country banded together, set differences aside, and recovered stronger than ever.

President George W. Bush, along with the entire House, Senate, etc. had the same EXACT information regarding Hussein. The vast majority all agreed that military action had to be taken against Saadam Hussein. Remember my dear, if you would speak out against the leader/government of countries such as Iraq, Iran, you would get the pleasure of being beheaded, put through a plastic shredder, tortured, limbs cut off, poisoned, and on and on.

As a citizen of the USA you were blessed by being born into a democratic country were you have the freedom of speach.

You seem to be hung up on alleged lies also. First, let me state, that the media miscontrues many, many verbal statements made by our leaders. Why, do you ask, that they allegedly lie, if that is, indeed how you feel? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. End of subject.

President George W. Bush, and all of our prior Presidents did what they felt was the best for our country. They put themselves out into the political arena to be exposed for every ounce of criticism that one could make, yet they still chose the path to lead our country to the best of their ability.

NO ONE wants war. Take a look at the USA's own history. The Civil War, you did learn that in history class, did you not? We would not be the country we are today if it were not for wars, even within our own boundaries. FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY COMES WITH A HEAVY PRICE, IT IS NOT 'FREE.'

The terrorists fear President George W. Bush because he is a strong leader, he does not waiver, he stands the course. They greatly anticipate his end of his presidency. Would you rather have the pleasure of being beheaded like you would be in Iraq under the rule of Sadaam Hussein? My dear, that is what would happen if the USA turned its head at every shameful, heinous act commited by countries such as Iraq, Sudan, etc.

The USA military is one of voluntarily joining. There IS NO LONGER A MILITARY DRAFT such as there was during the Viet Nam war. The brave men and women who comprise our military today do at their own free will because they love their country. ONE RIGHT YOU DO NOT HAVE IS TO TELL SOMEONE WHAT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT FEEL OR DO specifically our wonderful military.

Let me explain the purpose of our militry - simply put, it is there to defend our country. So that you may comprehend what I am trying to get you to understand, it is like football, not only does our military have to perform DEFENSIVELY, it first and foremost, must perform OFFENSIVELY. If we do not, 9/11's would be an everyday common occurrence in our country. Also, being on the offense and defense to the call of other countries so that they too are able to live in a democracy is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO THE USA MAINTAINING OUR FREEDOM.

I pray every day for my beloved USA. I cannot thank God enough for the honor of living in this great country.


Lindyy

Zapchaser's photo
Mon 02/04/08 05:26 AM

Sorry, but again I must point out that our economy is being destroyed not the country as a whole but the inner workings. Think of Russia when they turned from communism to a democracy, their entire economy failed...though more dramatic than the current situation, our situation could be headed in the same direction only democracy would fall with the economy. And the draft does still exist though hasn't been used since vietnam and certain loose ends were tied such as the age of draft eligible people.


I am well aware that madisonman quoted another individual's article. But, when one does such an act it is their express intention of stating that that is what that person his/her self believes and would have written it themselves if they had the intellect to do so.

Our beloved country has not been destroyed in any way shape or form. Perhaps disgraced by acts which certain individuals have said or done such as the Dixie Chicks, Jimmy Carter, Jane Fonda, but the USA will never be destroyed. Just relive in your mind the events of 9/11 and how we as a country banded together, set differences aside, and recovered stronger than ever.

President George W. Bush, along with the entire House, Senate, etc. had the same EXACT information regarding Hussein. The vast majority all agreed that military action had to be taken against Saadam Hussein. Remember my dear, if you would speak out against the leader/government of countries such as Iraq, Iran, you would get the pleasure of being beheaded, put through a plastic shredder, tortured, limbs cut off, poisoned, and on and on.

As a citizen of the USA you were blessed by being born into a democratic country were you have the freedom of speach.

You seem to be hung up on alleged lies also. First, let me state, that the media miscontrues many, many verbal statements made by our leaders. Why, do you ask, that they allegedly lie, if that is, indeed how you feel? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. End of subject.

President George W. Bush, and all of our prior Presidents did what they felt was the best for our country. They put themselves out into the political arena to be exposed for every ounce of criticism that one could make, yet they still chose the path to lead our country to the best of their ability.

NO ONE wants war. Take a look at the USA's own history. The Civil War, you did learn that in history class, did you not? We would not be the country we are today if it were not for wars, even within our own boundaries. FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY COMES WITH A HEAVY PRICE, IT IS NOT 'FREE.'

The terrorists fear President George W. Bush because he is a strong leader, he does not waiver, he stands the course. They greatly anticipate his end of his presidency. Would you rather have the pleasure of being beheaded like you would be in Iraq under the rule of Sadaam Hussein? My dear, that is what would happen if the USA turned its head at every shameful, heinous act commited by countries such as Iraq, Sudan, etc.

The USA military is one of voluntarily joining. There IS NO LONGER A MILITARY DRAFT such as there was during the Viet Nam war. The brave men and women who comprise our military today do at their own free will because they love their country. ONE RIGHT YOU DO NOT HAVE IS TO TELL SOMEONE WHAT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT FEEL OR DO specifically our wonderful military.

Let me explain the purpose of our militry - simply put, it is there to defend our country. So that you may comprehend what I am trying to get you to understand, it is like football, not only does our military have to perform DEFENSIVELY, it first and foremost, must perform OFFENSIVELY. If we do not, 9/11's would be an everyday common occurrence in our country. Also, being on the offense and defense to the call of other countries so that they too are able to live in a democracy is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO THE USA MAINTAINING OUR FREEDOM.

I pray every day for my beloved USA. I cannot thank God enough for the honor of living in this great country.


Lindyy


Yeah! What Lindy said! (insert sticking out tongue emoticon here_______ ) laugh laugh laugh

Mac60's photo
Mon 02/04/08 05:49 AM
<<<< Does not believe one word that comes out of the mouth of the drunken, draft dodger, coward Bush's mouth.

Lindyy's photo
Mon 02/04/08 06:17 AM
madisonman:

It is quite apparent that I have you frazzled into a frenzy of incomprehensible sentences. My dear, I do apologize for not being able to decipher exactly what point you are trying to relate, but working in the legal field for 21 years, I am used to working with some of the top attorneys and judges in Western Pennsylvania, men and women of high intellect and demeanor.

You are a working stiff? So are millions of other Americans. I get up at 5:00 a.m. to prepare for work and do not return to my home until 6:30 p.m. I do not complain, it is an honor to be able to have a career and contribute to the betterment of the United States of America.

Now, pray tell, are we supposed to have a pity party for you because you have to work? If that is what you are seeking, I feel confident that you would be elated IF (and that is such a huge IF) socialist Hillary Clinton were (in this tense 'were' meaning something contrary to fact) elected President. If you are so aware as to what is taking place in the political arena here in the USA, I am sure that you heard her recent "idea" over the weekend of making it MANDANTORY for all Americans to purchase health care. EXCUSE ME, but the United States of America is a DEMOCRACY, not a dictatorial nation, or are you so filled with hate that you are unable to realize this facet of life in the States?

So, now you have succumbed to bashing Liberty University, a well known Christian University that has been extremely outspoken on defending our troops and President Bush. How patriotic you are, typical left wing liberal. You would probably be basking in your rays of hatred if you could abolish Christianity. But, that too, will NEVER happen.

BUT most heinous of all are the words blurbing out of your mouth of ignorance (the true meaning of ignorant being LACK OF KNOWLEDGE) is you are now bashing our troops.

If you hate the United States of America and its leaders and military so much, my dear, I would be elated to help you pack your bags, even pay for your airfare, and direct you to a country that you obviously would be overcome with joy to live in. Say, perhaps Sudan.

It is people like you that are polarizing and attempting to divide the USA.

I, on the other hand, simply have made my posts in support of the country that I love to the deepest depths of my heart and soul - the United States of America.

You feel "this" is going to get interesting? Obviously you feed off of spewing up controversy, being polarizing, all in a half witted attempt to obtain attention.

Try watching FOX news, Hannity and Colmes, where you will find the truth and views of ALL sides, conservative, liberal, moderate, polarizing, uniting, dividing, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, Christian, non-Christian, intelligent, 'somewhere out in the ozone layer', and just plain assinine.

Lindyy

Mac60's photo
Mon 02/04/08 06:26 AM
Lady, if you believe you are getting the truth from Sean Hannity or the FOX Noise Channel in general, you have most definitely consumed the kool-aid.

wiley's photo
Mon 02/04/08 06:32 AM
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- **** Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction." -- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America�s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam�s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq�s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration�s policy towards Iraq, I don�t think there can be any question about Saddam�s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

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"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- **** Gephardt in September of 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction." -- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003


"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

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