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Topic: Cash Assistance/Urine Testing
daniel48706's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:09 PM
THIS GUY MAKES A GOOD POINT
This was written by a construction worker in Fort MacMurray...he sure
Makes a lot of sense to me!
Read on...

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my
Taxes as it sees fit.
In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac
Construction project, I am required to pass a random urine test, with
Which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
Taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I
Have to pass one to earn it for them ... ?
Please understand - I have no problem with helping people get back on
Their feet.

I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their
Arse drinking beer and smoking dope.
Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque ... ?




And just a side note, I have received public assistance checks in the past, and will probably be doing so again. due to being laid off. I have absolutely no problem with having to pee in a cup in order to receive benefits (just let me have a cup of coffee first so we are not waiting all day, lol)

Moxieblonde's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:11 PM

THIS GUY MAKES A GOOD POINT
This was written by a construction worker in Fort MacMurray...he sure
Makes a lot of sense to me!
Read on...

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my
Taxes as it sees fit.
In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac
Construction project, I am required to pass a random urine test, with
Which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
Taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I
Have to pass one to earn it for them ... ?
Please understand - I have no problem with helping people get back on
Their feet.

I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their
Arse drinking beer and smoking dope.
Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque ... ?




And just a side note, I have received public assistance checks in the past, and will probably be doing so again. due to being laid off. I have absolutely no problem with having to pee in a cup in order to receive benefits (just let me have a cup of coffee first so we are not waiting all day, lol)


OMG this is a hot topic for me as I know a few people that are addicts and get assistance when others that really need it have to wait....but because they say they are trying to get clean...they get assistance...go to ****ing rehab and stop playing the system

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:11 PM
smokin Its a bad idea for a variety of reasons. smokin Its unconstitutional for one.smokin

no photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:11 PM
yes he absolutely does

Gumbyvs's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:12 PM

THIS GUY MAKES A GOOD POINT
This was written by a construction worker in Fort MacMurray...he sure
Makes a lot of sense to me!
Read on...

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my
Taxes as it sees fit.
In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac
Construction project, I am required to pass a random urine test, with
Which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
Taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I
Have to pass one to earn it for them ... ?
Please understand - I have no problem with helping people get back on
Their feet.

I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their
Arse drinking beer and smoking dope.
Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque ... ?




And just a side note, I have received public assistance checks in the past, and will probably be doing so again. due to being laid off. I have absolutely no problem with having to pee in a cup in order to receive benefits (just let me have a cup of coffee first so we are not waiting all day, lol)


I've been saying this for years. People on any kind of hand out, should be drug free and possibly alcohol free(if you can't support yourself, you shouldn't be drinking). And I work 2 jobs where there's random urine tests and have no problem submitting to em.

no photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:13 PM
it's not unconstitutional when it comes outa your hard earned pay

daniel48706's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:14 PM

smokin Its a bad idea for a variety of reasons. smokin Its unconstitutional for one.smokin


please explain to me how it is unconstitutional. You have to take a urine test in order to work at mcdonalds any more, so why should you not have to take a urine test to get cash assistance?

daniel48706's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:16 PM


THIS GUY MAKES A GOOD POINT
This was written by a construction worker in Fort MacMurray...he sure
Makes a lot of sense to me!
Read on...

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my
Taxes as it sees fit.
In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac
Construction project, I am required to pass a random urine test, with
Which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
Taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I
Have to pass one to earn it for them ... ?
Please understand - I have no problem with helping people get back on
Their feet.

I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their
Arse drinking beer and smoking dope.
Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque ... ?




And just a side note, I have received public assistance checks in the past, and will probably be doing so again. due to being laid off. I have absolutely no problem with having to pee in a cup in order to receive benefits (just let me have a cup of coffee first so we are not waiting all day, lol)


I've been saying this for years. People on any kind of hand out, should be drug free and possibly alcohol free(if you can't support yourself, you shouldn't be drinking). And I work 2 jobs where there's random urine tests and have no problem submitting to em.


Yep, I enjoy having a beer every once in a while myself, but Iw il not use that cash assistance to purchase beer. I WILL use empty soda cans and such, lol but never that assistance check.

VKidd's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:17 PM
PISS IN THE CUP! I WANT MY MONEY BACK. LOL

Gumbyvs's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:18 PM
Edited by Gumbyvs on Fri 02/22/08 08:21 PM


smokin Its a bad idea for a variety of reasons. smokin Its unconstitutional for one.smokin


please explain to me how it is unconstitutional. You have to take a urine test in order to work at mcdonalds any more, so why should you not have to take a urine test to get cash assistance?


Ummmm, they can just add into any bill. "You must be drug and alcohol free to receive financial assistance." They have stupid provisions like "You can't make X amount of dollars, or you lose aid" So they quit their jobs. so we should support addicts?

Gumbyvs's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:19 PM

PISS IN THE CUP! I WANT MY MONEY BACK. LOL


What if I put the money in the cup and then piss in it, you still want it back?

KennethP5206's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:22 PM
Very good point.
You are right my friend.

Gumbyvs's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:24 PM



smokin Its a bad idea for a variety of reasons. smokin Its unconstitutional for one.smokin


please explain to me how it is unconstitutional. You have to take a urine test in order to work at mcdonalds any more, so why should you not have to take a urine test to get cash assistance?


Ummmm, they can just add into any bill. "You must be drug and alcohol free to receive financial assistance." They have stupid provisions like "You can't make X amount of dollars, or you lose aid" So they quit their jobs. so we should support addicts?


Self editing that. If you make X amount of dollars, you lose ALL your aid. So they go up to just about the level they lose it and quit their jobs or get themselves fired. Which resets the limits to 0, and they start over. You should hear the people that play the system, you think gov't are criminals, these people are worse.

daniel48706's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:25 PM
Edited by daniel48706 on Fri 02/22/08 08:26 PM

Gumbyvs's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:27 PM
Edited by Gumbyvs on Fri 02/22/08 08:28 PM
I'm a bit tired, it sounded better in my head. laugh then I tried to edit it after the fact, then I reread it and I wondered what I was trying to point out.. I think the Addict line shoulda been a separate line or something

VKidd's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:28 PM


PISS IN THE CUP! I WANT MY MONEY BACK. LOL


What if I put the money in the cup and then piss in it, you still want it back?

Hell ya...money is money...lol...jk...

Gumbyvs's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:29 PM



PISS IN THE CUP! I WANT MY MONEY BACK. LOL


What if I put the money in the cup and then piss in it, you still want it back?

Hell ya...money is money...lol...jk...


Redheads, gotta love em, til they kill you in your sleep.

VKidd's photo
Fri 02/22/08 08:31 PM
It happens...sleep with three eyes open

Lily0923's photo
Fri 02/22/08 10:22 PM
Urine tests are not given to see if you take drugs so they won't give you a job, they are given because it lowers the companies Workman's Comp. Insurance. That is the only reason companies give drug test.

Do I think people on welfare should take drugs....NO.

But the context of his statement is sckewed.

Lily0923's photo
Fri 02/22/08 10:24 PM
And on a whole nother note, the average cost of a urine test (a 4 panel) that test for Coke, PCP, pot, and anphetamenes cost aprox $50, how often would you have these peole taking them, where are you going to get the funding for it? Take it out of their checks?

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