Topic: Consintration Camps
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Tue 03/18/08 11:14 AM
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Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry.

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 11:17 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 03/18/08 11:20 AM
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* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

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What came out of the critical look was that FEMA was spending 12 times more for "black operations" than for disaster relief.

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 11:23 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 03/18/08 11:24 AM
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broader powers to declare martial law, which activates FEMA's extraordinary powers. Martial law can be declared during time of increased tension overseas, economic problems within the United States, such as a depression, civil unrest, such as demonstrations or scenes like the Los Angeles riots, and in a drug crisis.

These Presidential powers have increased with successive Crime Bills, particularly the 1991 and 1993 Crime Bills, which increase the power to suspend the rights guaranteed under the Constitution and to seize property of those suspected of being drug dealers, to individuals who participate in a public protest or demonstration.

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so do not get caught up in a demonstration
where you are protesting anything about the government

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 11:30 AM
The first targets in any FEMA emergency would be Hispanics and Blacks, the FEMA orders call for them to be rounded up and detained. Tax protesters, demonstrators against government military intervention outside U.S. borders, and people who maintain weapons in their homes are also targets.

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now where are they going to b
put these PEOPLE

and dave check out this line
and people who maintain weapons in their homes are also targets

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 11:35 AM
author of article

Harry V. Martin

Mr. Martin, a 28-year journalist who has worked throughout the Pacific Basin, is publisher of the Napa Sentinel (a weekly newspaper) and the North American Investigative Journal. He is former publisher of Defense Systems Review and Military Communications, and former Editorial Director of Defense Electronics, International Countermeasures Handbook, Military Electronics and Countermeasures, Microwave Systems News, and Military Science and Technology. He is an elected public official, and has been referred to by the Los Angeles Times as the Thomas Paine of the Patriot Movement.

DebbieJT's photo
Tue 03/18/08 12:01 PM
blooming eck you allowed to breath over there lollaugh

ellgee1976's photo
Tue 03/18/08 12:10 PM

blooming eck you allowed to breath over there lollaugh



sure we are, just more conspiracy theories being shown


all it takes is one person to imply the wrong thought, for a theory to run wild

that's how rumors get started actually lol

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 01:57 PM
well thank you

i did not realize you were so heart set

on talking to lil ol me

thank you so much

smooched

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Tue 03/18/08 02:32 PM
Adj...

All those things are true. In regards to the Executive orders. As they are quoted.

The other stuff that draws conclusions from those executive orders? Is pretty much conjecture, off of a site and radio network that has been operational for years as a shortwave and satellite based radio network. The subject matter is usually about how to cheat the IRS (because taxation is illegal), how 911 really happened, the new world order...etc... Not to mention being affiliated with the folks at GCN.com.

Not that I have anything against alternative news sites.. But to express an opinion as fact? Without any real standing or proof is not alternative, it is amatuer.

I do remember reading somewhere recently, in one of your posts...that if you are going to quote an article from a news source..that it is best and more credible to post from a variety of sources.

I agree.. With a few addendum's.
At least two of those sources should not be editorially based.

If that is not at all possible? At least two of those sources should be diametrically opposed on the issue. Somewhere in the middle the truth lies.

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 02:38 PM
that is the most intelligent post in this whole thread



insert thumbs up emoticon here


but true the executive order is fact

possible actions tho have not happened
does not mean they will not nor cant

but dave yer right on point

very good

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Tue 03/18/08 02:42 PM

interesting

very interesting

i am sure a lot of germans had these same attitudes

in the 1930s

a government is only as strong as its people let it be

and as for the fema can not perform remark

maybe just maybe mind you it was not set up for natural
disasters maybe it was set up for people disasters

after all how long have they been around

and they have how many camps set up
for how many people

interesting

keep your blinders on

how many of the jokesters here even looked at the posted sites

maybe it is easier and more comforting to make a joke
than to realize the seriousness of the issue

i can understand that maybe some are to scared to see the truth
i am sure that happened in 1930s germany as well

well good luck

i dream all you jokester are right but i doubt it highly



i'm sure the japenese americans in the 40's couldn't believe it either.

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Tue 03/18/08 02:48 PM
Thanks


possible actions tho have not happened
does not mean they will not nor cant


Of course.. But the way it is written is leading.

It is easy to draw from that writing that FEMA has a plan to eradicate the freedoms of a few races in this country and those that choose to arm themselves. Those are some pretty astounding accusations, without much substance to back them.

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Tue 03/18/08 02:50 PM

What do you think about them and the new ones they are putting up in america.


I heard something about these before, there's a whole conspiracy theory thing going about how when martial law goes into effect, these camps are for anyone who's resisting...

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 02:52 PM

Thanks


possible actions tho have not happened
does not mean they will not nor cant


Of course.. But the way it is written is leading.

It is easy to draw from that writing that FEMA has a plan to eradicate the freedoms of a few races in this country and those that choose to arm themselves. Those are some pretty astounding accusations, without much substance to back them.


i guess we will get a glimps when they announce the supreme court ruling on d c gun ban

that will tell a lil bit of the story i would think

ellgee1976's photo
Tue 03/18/08 02:54 PM

But to express an opinion as fact? Without any real standing or proof is not alternative, it is amatuer.


agreed..

it's also STILL an opinion


again, how rumors get started

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 02:56 PM


What do you think about them and the new ones they are putting up in america.


I heard something about these before, there's a whole conspiracy theory thing going about how when martial law goes into effect, these camps are for anyone who's resisting...


at this point i list it as a possibility (not probability)

but if supreme court rules in favor of d. c. it will become a probability in my opinion

maybe and most likely not in near future but 5-10 years yes it
will happen

only will take that long because
of other places passing gun banning as well will take some time

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 02:59 PM


interesting

very interesting

i am sure a lot of germans had these same attitudes

in the 1930s

a government is only as strong as its people let it be

and as for the fema can not perform remark

maybe just maybe mind you it was not set up for natural
disasters maybe it was set up for people disasters

after all how long have they been around

and they have how many camps set up
for how many people

interesting

keep your blinders on

how many of the jokesters here even looked at the posted sites

maybe it is easier and more comforting to make a joke
than to realize the seriousness of the issue

i can understand that maybe some are to scared to see the truth
i am sure that happened in 1930s germany as well

well good luck

i dream all you jokester are right but i doubt it highly



i'm sure the japenese americans in the 40's couldn't believe it either.


well at least jax knows it has happened in the past
to american citizens and it can happen again

the paperwork is in place
if never planned on doing it why
do they need the paperwork in place

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Tue 03/18/08 03:00 PM
It's spelled "concentration"

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Tue 03/18/08 03:00 PM

i guess we will get a glimps when they announce the supreme court ruling on d c gun ban

that will tell a lil bit of the story i would think


Not really. It is a debate that has been long standing. The statistics to date...on both sides of the argument are misleading.
The only thing concrete about the statistics I've seen is that most statisticians who are not biased, conclude that they are inconclusive.
How the Supreme Court interprets the amendment? Is going to be the law. Either way? Until such time I need a weapon, i am fine without. Should a war break out in my neighborhood? I know where to get one, if I just have to have one.
Should that happen? What the Supreme Court says today? Won't much matter.

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 03:02 PM


But to express an opinion as fact? Without any real standing or proof is not alternative, it is amatuer.



could someone post where it was said an opinion was fact plz

or have you assumed it

if i said the indians was going to win the world series
is that stating my opinion is fact or only a belief