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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: People with pre-existing conditions have been out of luck in this country as far as health insurance is concerned. This just tells me that health insurance as it has always been is nothing better than a for profit business that does not really give a rats rear about your health at all. Its just profit they are interested in. Really? I have great insurance. I'm happy for you. Happy I disproved your point? Me too! You have done nothing of the kind. Telling me your personal opinion or experience has not disproved anything. How is any of this remotely an opinion? You said people with preexisting conditions were out of luck. I have a preexisting condition and insurance. How am I out of luck ? Most insurance companies will not insure you if you are honest about your preexisting condition OR they will not cover anything that involves your preexisting condition. If you have one who does, then good for you. That is why I said good for you. But none of that proves me wrong. They do if you get it through an employer. That is the point of getting an education. People get educations because they need a diploma as proof that they have a brain. They can't get a job otherwise. Should I have clarified a useful education ? |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
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Boycot Papa Johns
At least they are ballzy enough to say what they and others will do. I ordered from them. My friends will too. If you don't buy from them you dont care about their employees.
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: If you have a easy job and a pre existing condition and insurance thats great but you better hope your job is forever or you will get taste of what others are feeling. To me the big thing is other people even If I won the lottery I would want others to have health care because its not all about me. Did Jesus only help the afflicted with insurance? He helps those who help themselves. Your health is not the governments responsibility. It is your own. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: People with pre-existing conditions have been out of luck in this country as far as health insurance is concerned. This just tells me that health insurance as it has always been is nothing better than a for profit business that does not really give a rats rear about your health at all. Its just profit they are interested in. Really? I have great insurance. I'm happy for you. Happy I disproved your point? Me too! You have done nothing of the kind. Telling me your personal opinion or experience has not disproved anything. How is any of this remotely an opinion? You said people with preexisting conditions were out of luck. I have a preexisting condition and insurance. How am I out of luck ? Most insurance companies will not insure you if you are honest about your preexisting condition OR they will not cover anything that involves your preexisting condition. If you have one who does, then good for you. That is why I said good for you. But none of that proves me wrong. They do if you get it through an employer. That is the point of getting an education. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
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The Real Welfare States
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Of the 32 states that receive more than they give in tax dollars to the federal government 21 of those states are Republican. Of the 18 states that give more federal taxes than they receive 17 of them are democratic. Wannabe Secessionists, Go For It, Pretty Please we can finally balance a budget. See the stats here. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/11/13-1 Me thinks someone doesnt understand population density. Really? it would seem its the republicans who do not after all they spend four years chasing the votes 800,000 rednecks with states with about 4 electoral votes each, then they cry and wonder why the lost the election.
Not to mention these states contribute nothing to the national economy in fact they take more money from the federal government than they contribute as proven above. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you good lord! What a feat of propaganda. Speaking of feed, I bet most of those states are where we get our crops and meat. Its hard to pay for all the roads and stuff when you have limited people in a large land mass due to producing food. Again, me thinks you don't understand population density. On 1 farm you could fit a skyscraper filled with thousands of wallstreeters. Who do you think would be more cost effective in a tax dollar perspective? But then again if the farmer wasn't there what would we eat? Taking in more than you earn isn't the same as welfare. Spin it all you wish its still one person one vote.
There is no spin. You could have a state with 100% employment and 100% of people earn enough to pay taxes but still be negative when it comes to federal spending. That is just because places with large land areas but small populations cant afford to pay for roads etc. That is different from collecting a welfare check. Lets cut all welfare spending and see if those states remain fine. The Red states take more from the fed than they pay in. The blue states pay more than they get from fed. It's that simple and that is the point of the thread.
But that isn't welfare so it matters not if its the point as the title isn't true. It also doesn't state if it is going to the people or the state.
I guess you ignored my other stuff about those states providing a lot of the countries food. Yea we dont need food. Damn Parasites. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
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Boycot Papa Johns
QUOTE: think i will order papa johns ya made me hungry so because he comes out and states what most should already know you force a cost on a company for their employee the company will do what they need to to cover that cost i guess jack was right "the truth you cant handle the truth" but hey what do i know I just ordered from there. I will be eating it in about 40 minutes. MMMM Hawaiian BBQ Chicken. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: People with pre-existing conditions have been out of luck in this country as far as health insurance is concerned. This just tells me that health insurance as it has always been is nothing better than a for profit business that does not really give a rats rear about your health at all. Its just profit they are interested in. Really? I have great insurance. I'm happy for you. Happy I disproved your point? Me too! You have done nothing of the kind. Telling me your personal opinion or experience has not disproved anything. How is any of this remotely an opinion? You said people with preexisting conditions were out of luck. I have a preexisting condition and insurance. How am I out of luck ? |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Then I will take that remark to mean that you agree with me that science cannot prove the existence of consciousness. At best, all they and anyone can do is try to define it. Therefore, if they have no way of determining what it is, and where it exists, then they cannot make statements implying that a virus or a tree are not conscious. Actually you are incorrect. Because unlike you, science uses the accepted scientific definitions of words. You see there has to be a standard of things in science. So they would say they are not conscious. You say you are arguing philosophy and not science but you keep bringing up scientific evidence. Yes my dog analogy was correct with yours because the scientific definition of dog is known and can be shown to exist just like the scientific definition. Then you went and changed the meaning of the word to claim it didn't exist just as I did. Philosophers think they know stuff. Scientists know what they know and know what they don't know. I am not incorrect. That is only your opinion. If "science" wants to shut itself off from the rest of the world and humanity and lock itself up inside of a box with rigid inflexible laws about the meanings of words, (particularly consciousness) which I don't agree with you that they do, then they would not progress forward much where the true nature of reality is concerned. And yes, as everything stated, that is my opinion. The word "consciousness" (like "God) in my opinion, has not been correctly or adequately defined. If we as philosophers, or scientists want to progress towards learning the truth about how we came to exist out of nothing, and how we became alive and conscious, new definitions are in order. It is not my opinion lol. You can't just say you are correct and Science is wrong, and the scientific definition doesn't matter when talking about scientific evidence. I understand you are wanting to talk philosophy but you can't bring in scientific evidence and try to talk philosophy. So yes as far as science is concerned you are incorrect. That is not an opinion as you can look it up and prove it. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: From the time he went into office, Bush pretty much rammed this country's economy to the ground. It is going to take the next 200 years before we will get out of the mess that he helped put us in. I am dumbfounded at how conservatives are quick to throw our current leader into the cauldron, knowing well that eight years of having that goof of a president (Bush) in office is what kept us in this economic downfall in the first place. Lol thats laughable. The economy was perfectly fine after the first 6 years. What happened after the 6th year? Well the Democrats took control of Congress and went on a spending spree and still are. How exactly does the president control the economy? The congress is in control of the Budget. Lets learn how the system works please. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: People with pre-existing conditions have been out of luck in this country as far as health insurance is concerned. This just tells me that health insurance as it has always been is nothing better than a for profit business that does not really give a rats rear about your health at all. Its just profit they are interested in. Really? I have great insurance. I'm happy for you. Happy I disproved your point? Me too! |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
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The Real Welfare States
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Of the 32 states that receive more than they give in tax dollars to the federal government 21 of those states are Republican. Of the 18 states that give more federal taxes than they receive 17 of them are democratic. Wannabe Secessionists, Go For It, Pretty Please we can finally balance a budget. See the stats here. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/11/13-1 Me thinks someone doesnt understand population density. Really? it would seem its the republicans who do not after all they spend four years chasing the votes 800,000 rednecks with states with about 4 electoral votes each, then they cry and wonder why the lost the election.
Not to mention these states contribute nothing to the national economy in fact they take more money from the federal government than they contribute as proven above. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you good lord! What a feat of propaganda. Speaking of feed, I bet most of those states are where we get our crops and meat. Its hard to pay for all the roads and stuff when you have limited people in a large land mass due to producing food. Again, me thinks you don't understand population density. On 1 farm you could fit a skyscraper filled with thousands of wallstreeters. Who do you think would be more cost effective in a tax dollar perspective? But then again if the farmer wasn't there what would we eat? Taking in more than you earn isn't the same as welfare. Spin it all you wish its still one person one vote.
There is no spin. You could have a state with 100% employment and 100% of people earn enough to pay taxes but still be negative when it comes to federal spending. That is just because places with large land areas but small populations cant afford to pay for roads etc. That is different from collecting a welfare check. Lets cut all welfare spending and see if those states remain fine. The Red states take more from the fed than they pay in. The blue states pay more than they get from fed. It's that simple and that is the point of the thread.
But that isn't welfare so it matters not if its the point as the title isn't true. It also doesn't state if it is going to the people or the state.
Edited by Chazster on Thu 11/15/12 05:30 AM
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
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The Real Welfare States
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Of the 32 states that receive more than they give in tax dollars to the federal government 21 of those states are Republican. Of the 18 states that give more federal taxes than they receive 17 of them are democratic. Wannabe Secessionists, Go For It, Pretty Please we can finally balance a budget. See the stats here. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/11/13-1 Me thinks someone doesnt understand population density. Really? it would seem its the republicans who do not after all they spend four years chasing the votes 800,000 rednecks with states with about 4 electoral votes each, then they cry and wonder why the lost the election.
Not to mention these states contribute nothing to the national economy in fact they take more money from the federal government than they contribute as proven above. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you good lord! What a feat of propaganda. Speaking of feed, I bet most of those states are where we get our crops and meat. Its hard to pay for all the roads and stuff when you have limited people in a large land mass due to producing food. Again, me thinks you don't understand population density. On 1 farm you could fit a skyscraper filled with thousands of wallstreeters. Who do you think would be more cost effective in a tax dollar perspective? But then again if the farmer wasn't there what would we eat? Taking in more than you earn isn't the same as welfare. Spin it all you wish its still one person one vote.
There is no spin. You could have a state with 100% employment and 100% of people earn enough to pay taxes but still be negative when it comes to federal spending. That is just because places with large land areas but small populations cant afford to pay for roads etc. That is different from collecting a welfare check. Lets cut all welfare spending and see if those states remain fine. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
Bush did the bail out. Obama just gave extra.
Edited by Chazster on Wed 11/14/12 05:06 PM
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
Topic:
The Real Welfare States
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Of the 32 states that receive more than they give in tax dollars to the federal government 21 of those states are Republican. Of the 18 states that give more federal taxes than they receive 17 of them are democratic. Wannabe Secessionists, Go For It, Pretty Please we can finally balance a budget. See the stats here. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/11/13-1 Me thinks someone doesnt understand population density. Really? it would seem its the republicans who do not after all they spend four years chasing the votes 800,000 rednecks with states with about 4 electoral votes each, then they cry and wonder why the lost the election.
Not to mention these states contribute nothing to the national economy in fact they take more money from the federal government than they contribute as proven above. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you good lord! What a feat of propaganda. Speaking of feed, I bet most of those states are where we get our crops and meat. Its hard to pay for all the roads and stuff when you have limited people in a large land mass due to producing food. Again, me thinks you don't understand population density. On 1 farm you could fit a skyscraper filled with thousands of wallstreeters. Who do you think would be more cost effective in a tax dollar perspective? But then again if the farmer wasn't there what would we eat? Taking in more than you earn isn't the same as welfare. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
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Boycot Papa Johns
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I like their double bacon 6 cheese pizza. Mmmmmmm.
I had that last time. Not as good as the Hawaiian BBQ Chicken pizza. I will need to get that soon especially since all these other guys are gonna try to boycott them. Also they are not losing money giving away pizzas.... its part of their NFL promo that makes them lots of money. Simple business, they wouldn't do it if it wasn't profitable.
Its not a tax write off its part of their sponsorship. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: People with pre-existing conditions have been out of luck in this country as far as health insurance is concerned. This just tells me that health insurance as it has always been is nothing better than a for profit business that does not really give a rats rear about your health at all. Its just profit they are interested in. Really? I have great insurance. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Anyone can goto Esurance.com and get full plans for like $50.00 a month. Everyone wants a handout. If you don't like the fact your employer doesn't offer benefits or the benefits you want find another job. To be fair I couldn't. I have had a pre existing condition since I was 8. Then again I based my career choice with the knowledge that I need a company to provide medical insurance. It's interesting that the ranters never respond to posts like this which point out the real-world problems with our current system. And I solved the problem myself without the aid of my federal government. People can control their own lives to a large degree. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
Topic:
The Real Welfare States
QUOTE: Of the 32 states that receive more than they give in tax dollars to the federal government 21 of those states are Republican. Of the 18 states that give more federal taxes than they receive 17 of them are democratic. Wannabe Secessionists, Go For It, Pretty Please we can finally balance a budget. See the stats here. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/11/13-1 Me thinks someone doesnt understand population density. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
Topic:
Boycot Papa Johns
QUOTE: I like their double bacon 6 cheese pizza. Mmmmmmm.
I had that last time. Not as good as the Hawaiian BBQ Chicken pizza. I will need to get that soon especially since all these other guys are gonna try to boycott them. Also they are not losing money giving away pizzas.... its part of their NFL promo that makes them lots of money. Simple business, they wouldn't do it if it wasn't profitable. |
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Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 5921 |
QUOTE: Instead of cutting employee's healthcare benefits, maybe Papa Johns should stop giving away free pizzas. Some people seem to not understand how promotions work. You see this is a promotion that is part of their deal with the NFL. The amount of money they lose by giving away pizzas is less than the amount of money they get by being "The Official Pizza of the NFL." Otherwise they wouldn't do it. What did you expect to happen to minimum wage jobs or less than minimum wage jobs that work on tips? You expect employers to just raise salaries? No they will just make people part time. This is no surprise. |
Mmmmmmm.