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Creation vs. Evolution.
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lol....i knew you'd pick that one out.Even Odesyss story isn't all true.ok so 8 out of 10 ain't bad your not getting the point the stories of the others are similar to the story of jesus,i knew about the Horus story yeah it's false but my point in posting that is about the others.i'm pointing out that other religions before christianity had similar stories. Pick one, I'll rip it apart. I'm not going to do all of them. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-christ-like-figures-who-pre-date-jesus/ Here are some similar messiah stories that predate Jesus if you think the stories are false about them just check out each one then you'll see that the small paragraphs matches the whole story.Of course you'll claim it false even though they were stories about Jesus like figures just like Jesus was a story. I'll just refute the #1 "christ like figure". Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days. One line at a time... Born of a virgin, Isis. Isis was not considered to be a virgin. She was married for a time before her husband was murdered and dismembered. She got pregnant by putting all of his body back together, save for his penis, which had been eaten. She carved a giant wooden penis, attached it to her dead husband and had sex with it. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. There is no such story about Horus. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). There is no mention of a manger in Horus' birth story. He was born in a swamp. Jesus' birthday is only celebrated on December 25th, Jesus was born in the early fall, as Shepherds were still in the field. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” In both cases, the parents were told to flee with their child. That is how you escape from someone who wants to kill you. If a battered woman were to move to another state to avoid her violent ex, would that mean she's a myth? Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. There is no discussion of Horus from birth until adulthood. There was no description of him being 12. There is no mention of the age of 30 either, all that is know is that Horus is an adult and that his member has doubled in size and his strength has doubled. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Horus was never baptized, he had no baptizer. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. While Horus is storied to have created miracles, he was never recorded to have walked on water, cast out demons or raised the dead. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days. There is no mention of Horus having been crucified. Horus merged with the sun god in some stories and was dismembered in others. Horus did not descend into hell and was not resurrected three days later. In the stories that claim he joined with the sun god, he dies every night and comes back to life every morning. All of these false claims originate with Gerald Massey, who was a liar. He claimed to be able to read Egyptian, before the Rosetta stone was discovered. After hieroglyphics were translated, they didn't read anything at all like Massey claimed. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
Edited by
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Wed 05/23/12 08:10 AM
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The tchadensis is just another extinct ape. When hominid skulls are discovered people seem to forget the huge variety of hominids that already exist. Sure there are many extinct hominid species, some very humanoid in shape, this just proves that there was more variety in the past, something that creationists agree on. Its impossible to discover a skull and claim its modern human ancestry or a missing link, its just another species or even the same species as today. An extinct species proves nothing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- As for your opinion on the tchadnesis atleast they did exist and scientist can come up with a hypothesis,thats more than i can say about your mythical magic man(god) and his baby(jesus). Btw did your God ever pay Mary child support?  I wish there was something scientific in what you said so that we could discuss it. I wonder if these boards are even moderated, I didn't think insults to someones religion count as fruitful discussion. ------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd also like to add i have read some of the creationist sites and just about everyone of them give different dates on when the biblical characters existed. Naah, its not ALL I'm doing. I've studied the geologic layers and discovered they fit the bible very well. If the only problem you can see with my placing the flood at the P-T boundary is the date problem, then I would say we are starting to see a lot of biblical consensus between the geologic sequence and the bible. Both have a bountiful period (carboniferous) followed by a worldwide extinction, followed by a dry silted up world of difficult conditions. Unlike other creationists I respect science and enjoy delving into the truths exposed by science. I just do not feel that evolution is the most logical projection of the data available. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Howzit it's fine people of different faiths are in science..I'm bored thats why i'm on here,just killing time. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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I just refuse to accept that a divine deity created everything in 6 days.Also along with how similar the prehebrew religion stories are almost spitten image of the now hewbrew religion.In other words monotheism came from polytheist stories. Not only is that not true, but it's obviously false. I'll tell ya something if people want to believe in a God it's fine but it will always be debated until that one question becomes fact."How did it all begin'. Maybe I should care to make you a Christian, but I don't. I'm just defending the faith from spurious attacks. If you choose to believe or choose to not believe, that's between you and God. I just want it clear that there are very good reasons to be a Christian and I do that by setting the facts straight. Plus thinking you're going to a fire lake if you're disobedient to a God may make others believe in God. I don't believe that. Here are some similar messiah stories that predate Jesus if you think the stories are false about them just check out each one then you'll see that the small paragraphs matches the whole story.Of course you'll claim it false even though they were stories about Jesus like figures just like Jesus was a story. |
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Topic:
Creation vs. Evolution.
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Howzit all you're doing is taken what science has discovered and placing it in your bible when your not even putting dates on it.Your just takin events and typing "See 'this is","could be" what happened in the bible" when theres no accurate dates to make the claims they both coincide.So how can anyone talk science if your just gonna keep on comparing actual events with biblical events. I'd also like to add i have read some of the creationist sites and just about everyone of them give different dates on when the biblical characters existed. Scientists do the research and they find the data. The data is the interpreted to come to a conclusion. howzityoume disagrees with their conclusions, not their data. I am the same way. How is that not acceptable to you? Isn't that what scientists do with new hypothesis? The only difference is that howzityoume and I don't immediately exclude the possibility that God exists from the discussion. In the end, we are more scientists than any so-called scientist who excludes conclusions because it's now fashionable to declare those who reject the existence of God to be more intelligent and those who accept it. I'll tell ya something if people want to believe in a God it's fine but it will always be debated until that one question becomes fact."How did it all begin'.Plus thinking you're going to a fire lake if you're disobedient to a God may make others believe in God. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
Edited by
RKISIT
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Wed 05/23/12 06:43 AM
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The tchadensis is just another extinct ape. When hominid skulls are discovered people seem to forget the huge variety of hominids that already exist. Sure there are many extinct hominid species, some very humanoid in shape, this just proves that there was more variety in the past, something that creationists agree on. Its impossible to discover a skull and claim its modern human ancestry or a missing link, its just another species or even the same species as today. An extinct species proves nothing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- As for your opinion on the tchadnesis atleast they did exist and scientist can come up with a hypothesis,thats more than i can say about your mythical magic man(god) and his baby(jesus). Btw did your God ever pay Mary child support? I wish there was something scientific in what you said so that we could discuss it. I wonder if these boards are even moderated, I didn't think insults to someones religion count as fruitful discussion. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Howzit all you're doing is taken what science has discovered and placing it in your bible when your not even putting dates on it.Your just takin events and typing "See 'this is","could be" what happened in the bible" when theres no accurate dates to make the claims they both coincide.So how can anyone talk science if your just gonna keep on comparing actual events with biblical events. I'd also like to add i have read some of the creationist sites and just about everyone of them give different dates on when the biblical characters existed. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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So our common ancestors were the tchadensis named Adam and Eve?Wow thats a shocker. The tchadensis is just another extinct ape. When hominid skulls are discovered people seem to forget the huge variety of hominids that already exist. Sure there are many extinct hominid species, some very humanoid in shape, this just proves that there was more variety in the past, something that creationists agree on. Its impossible to discover a skull and claim its modern human ancestry or a missing link, its just another species or even the same species as today. An extinct species proves nothing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ya know How your true colors are coming out your just another Jesus freak creationist trying to manipulate what science has found and placing it in your nonexisting timeline to make it look like the events in your precious book happened.Your religion is like all the other Deity/deities driven religions they are simple mythology. As for your opinion on the tchadnesis atleast they did exist and scientist can come up with a hypothesis,thats more than i can say about your mythical magic man(god) and his baby(jesus). Btw did your God ever pay Mary child support? That's hillarious coming from someone who tries to argue against creationism utilizing a Young Earth Creationist's view of a 6,000 year old Earth. Oh yeah, that supports your views...  |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
Edited by
RKISIT
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Wed 05/23/12 05:39 AM
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So our common ancestors were the tchadensis named Adam and Eve?Wow thats a shocker. The tchadensis is just another extinct ape. When hominid skulls are discovered people seem to forget the huge variety of hominids that already exist. Sure there are many extinct hominid species, some very humanoid in shape, this just proves that there was more variety in the past, something that creationists agree on. Its impossible to discover a skull and claim its modern human ancestry or a missing link, its just another species or even the same species as today. An extinct species proves nothing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ya know How your true colors are coming out your just another Jesus freak creationist trying to manipulate what science has found and placing it in your nonexisting timeline to make it look like the events in your precious book happened.Your religion is like all the other Deity/deities driven religions they are simple mythology. As for your opinion on the tchadnesis atleast they did exist and scientist can come up with a hypothesis,thats more than i can say about your mythical magic man(god) and his baby(jesus). Btw did your God ever pay Mary child support? That's hillarious coming from someone who tries to argue against creationism utilizing a Young Earth Creationist's view of a 6,000 year old Earth. |
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Topic:
Creation vs. Evolution.
Edited by
RKISIT
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The tchadensis is just another extinct ape. When hominid skulls are discovered people seem to forget the huge variety of hominids that already exist. Sure there are many extinct hominid species, some very humanoid in shape, this just proves that there was more variety in the past, something that creationists agree on. Its impossible to discover a skull and claim its modern human ancestry or a missing link, its just another species or even the same species as today. An extinct species proves nothing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ya know How your true colors are coming out your just another Jesus freak creationist trying to manipulate what science has found and placing it in your nonexisting timeline to make it look like the events in your precious book happened.Your religion is like all the other Deity/deities driven religions they are simple mythology. As for your opinion on the tchadnesis atleast they did exist and scientist can come up with a hypothesis,thats more than i can say about your mythical magic man(god) and his baby(jesus). Btw did your God ever pay Mary child support? |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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RKISIT
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The turtle is a closer relative of crocodiles and birds than of lizards and snakes, according to researchers who claim to have solved an age-old riddle in animal evolution. The ancestry of the turtle, which evolved between 200 and 300 million years ago, has caused much scientific squabbling -- its physiology suggesting a different branch of the family tree than its genes do. "The evolutionary origin of turtles has confounded the understanding of vertebrate evolution," the scientists wrote in a paper published Wednesday in the Royal Society journal Biology Letters. Until the latest study, that is -- which claims to have been the biggest of its kind. "Our study conclusively shows that the genetic story is that turtles are more closely related to birds and crocodilians," research team member Nicholas Crawford from Boston University told AFP. Anatomy and fossil studies of turtles and their reptilian relatives generally place the shelled creatures in the family of lepidosaurs -- snakes, lizards and tuataras (rare lizard-like animals). Genetic studies, however, say they have more in common with crocodiles and birds -- which fall into the archosaur group of animals that also included the extinct land-bound dinosaurs. The latter finding has now been confirmed by the most exhaustive genetic study on the topic ever done, said Crawford -- having gathered "ten times as much" information as previous research efforts. The team compared the DNA of the corn snake, the African helmeted turtle, the painted turtle, the American alligator, the saltwater crocodile, the tuatara, the chicken, the zebra finch and the Carolina anole lizard. Crawford said the historic confusion partly arose because turtles shared key physical characteristics with lizards, snakes and tuataras -- including a three-chambered heart. They had little in common with crocs and serpents. Lepidosaurs and archosaurs share a common reptilian ancestor. i think that most people know that birds evolved from certain dinosaurs, and are closely related... this seems to prove it more... LOL because an engineer creates two engines similar in design, this means they both evolved from the same ancestor - hahaha Ever thought that the genetic engineer (God) could have used a similar design, and that is why there are similarities? Nature does not add functional genes to creatures succesfully, so if nature does not do that, then how could creatures have increasing gene lengths over time, and all evolve from a genetically less complex creature? Let's stick to the facts. The nonsense we see on National Geographic about this creature and that creature having common ancestors, can even be found on Wikipedia. With NO empirical basis at all. so we all came from "adam and eve?" science has already proved that false. neither science nor the bible has all the answers we are looking for, but i will put my "faith" in science before anything else. we might have already had a lot of these answers if the religions in the past did declare science a devils tool. science was held back for 1000's of years because of the churches being scared that science would prove them wrong. By what evidence has Adam and Eve been proved incorrect? On the contrary Ihave a quote from the National Geographic that specifically states that all men have a common ancestor. I love science, it generally reveals truth over time. i hate it when that happens |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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evolution is in direct comflict with the law of chemistry ie enthropy.for science to have any credibility its basic laws should agree and reinforce each other or be alligned in that direction.so I ask has evolution explained the origins of life or only purpot to?morever cosmology has yet to explain the cause of all processes that led to existence of this universe having started with only energy. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
Edited by
RKISIT
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The turtle is a closer relative of crocodiles and birds than of lizards and snakes, according to researchers who claim to have solved an age-old riddle in animal evolution. The ancestry of the turtle, which evolved between 200 and 300 million years ago, has caused much scientific squabbling -- its physiology suggesting a different branch of the family tree than its genes do. "The evolutionary origin of turtles has confounded the understanding of vertebrate evolution," the scientists wrote in a paper published Wednesday in the Royal Society journal Biology Letters. Until the latest study, that is -- which claims to have been the biggest of its kind. "Our study conclusively shows that the genetic story is that turtles are more closely related to birds and crocodilians," research team member Nicholas Crawford from Boston University told AFP. Anatomy and fossil studies of turtles and their reptilian relatives generally place the shelled creatures in the family of lepidosaurs -- snakes, lizards and tuataras (rare lizard-like animals). Genetic studies, however, say they have more in common with crocodiles and birds -- which fall into the archosaur group of animals that also included the extinct land-bound dinosaurs. The latter finding has now been confirmed by the most exhaustive genetic study on the topic ever done, said Crawford -- having gathered "ten times as much" information as previous research efforts. The team compared the DNA of the corn snake, the African helmeted turtle, the painted turtle, the American alligator, the saltwater crocodile, the tuatara, the chicken, the zebra finch and the Carolina anole lizard. Crawford said the historic confusion partly arose because turtles shared key physical characteristics with lizards, snakes and tuataras -- including a three-chambered heart. They had little in common with crocs and serpents. Lepidosaurs and archosaurs share a common reptilian ancestor. i think that most people know that birds evolved from certain dinosaurs, and are closely related... this seems to prove it more... LOL because an engineer creates two engines similar in design, this means they both evolved from the same ancestor - hahaha Ever thought that the genetic engineer (God) could have used a similar design, and that is why there are similarities? Nature does not add functional genes to creatures succesfully, so if nature does not do that, then how could creatures have increasing gene lengths over time, and all evolve from a genetically less complex creature? Let's stick to the facts. The nonsense we see on National Geographic about this creature and that creature having common ancestors, can even be found on Wikipedia. With NO empirical basis at all. so we all came from "adam and eve?" science has already proved that false. neither science nor the bible has all the answers we are looking for, but i will put my "faith" in science before anything else. we might have already had a lot of these answers if the religions in the past did declare science a devils tool. science was held back for 1000's of years because of the churches being scared that science would prove them wrong. By what evidence has Adam and Eve been proved incorrect? On the contrary Ihave a quote from the National Geographic that specifically states that all men have a common ancestor. I love science, it generally reveals truth over time. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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The turtle is a closer relative of crocodiles and birds than of lizards and snakes, according to researchers who claim to have solved an age-old riddle in animal evolution. The ancestry of the turtle, which evolved between 200 and 300 million years ago, has caused much scientific squabbling -- its physiology suggesting a different branch of the family tree than its genes do. "The evolutionary origin of turtles has confounded the understanding of vertebrate evolution," the scientists wrote in a paper published Wednesday in the Royal Society journal Biology Letters. Until the latest study, that is -- which claims to have been the biggest of its kind. "Our study conclusively shows that the genetic story is that turtles are more closely related to birds and crocodilians," research team member Nicholas Crawford from Boston University told AFP. Anatomy and fossil studies of turtles and their reptilian relatives generally place the shelled creatures in the family of lepidosaurs -- snakes, lizards and tuataras (rare lizard-like animals). Genetic studies, however, say they have more in common with crocodiles and birds -- which fall into the archosaur group of animals that also included the extinct land-bound dinosaurs. The latter finding has now been confirmed by the most exhaustive genetic study on the topic ever done, said Crawford -- having gathered "ten times as much" information as previous research efforts. The team compared the DNA of the corn snake, the African helmeted turtle, the painted turtle, the American alligator, the saltwater crocodile, the tuatara, the chicken, the zebra finch and the Carolina anole lizard. Crawford said the historic confusion partly arose because turtles shared key physical characteristics with lizards, snakes and tuataras -- including a three-chambered heart. They had little in common with crocs and serpents. Lepidosaurs and archosaurs share a common reptilian ancestor. i think that most people know that birds evolved from certain dinosaurs, and are closely related... this seems to prove it more... LOL because an engineer creates two engines similar in design, this means they both evolved from the same ancestor - hahaha Ever thought that the genetic engineer (God) could have used a similar design, and that is why there are similarities? Nature does not add functional genes to creatures succesfully, so if nature does not do that, then how could creatures have increasing gene lengths over time, and all evolve from a genetically less complex creature? Let's stick to the facts. The nonsense we see on National Geographic about this creature and that creature having common ancestors, can even be found on Wikipedia. With NO empirical basis at all. so we all came from "adam and eve?" science has already proved that false. neither science nor the bible has all the answers we are looking for, but i will put my "faith" in science before anything else. we might have already had a lot of these answers if the religions in the past did declare science a devils tool. science was held back for 1000's of years because of the churches being scared that science would prove them wrong. By what evidence has Adam and Eve been proved incorrect? On the contrary Ihave a quote from the National Geographic that specifically states that all men have a common ancestor. I love science, it generally reveals truth over time. |
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Evolution from apes is a theory. There is no link, yet, found to prove this theory has any basis in fact. If there was it would be all over the news. I kind of thought evolution was a theory that we are more like apes cousins, than descendants? which would fall in line with Christianity in the sense that we did all start from the same source {parent) |
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I never did understand the priciples and morals of the Police departments.
If a cop goes home and screws his wife while on duty he gets fired.If 5 cops beat up 1 unarmed suspect they either get off by "jusifiable" or found not guilty.As a taxpayer i'd rather give the cop who went home and got some nookie a second chance then 5 ill-tempered pigs a second chance. This is why these cops keep doing it cause the majority get away with it. |
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Iran vs Israel:
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I think Allah and "I am" should play a 18 hole golf match.If "I am" wins he can flood the entire Muslim countries and use the desert sand to create jews all over the new Jewish homeland.If Allah wins he can throw all the Jews into hell and make Israel a Palestine country.Let the Gods battle it out instead of the peon followers.
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Tue 05/22/12 05:43 AM
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Actually i like it when things like this happens cause it shows that some teens have some knowledge of politics and politicians.Theres a time and place for it according to society but atleast the teen didn't pull out an AK47 and put a cap in the teachers a$$.Who knows that teen could end up seeing politics for what it is and change American politics or just do what most politicians do and think "get rich quick,get into politics"
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RKISIT
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Tue 05/22/12 05:05 AM
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I haven't said much about this case but as posted already if Zimmerman did what the police told him and not follow Martin the odds are this wouldn't have escalated into a death.As in many cases "IF" is meaningless.
Now on the other hand the "stand your ground" law shouldn't be abolished but maybe a little more polished. |
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Wow i always knew the US used propaganda on us to pull for the home team but billions of dollars have been spent on this?
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drugs and welfare,,,
Edited by
RKISIT
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Looks to me he(Rick Scott) feels bad about playing dumb in the fraud case so now this is a way of putting back what he took even though it's not his money.So my point is it's not just the poor people that defraud medicaid/medicare which is part of the Social Welfare network.
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