Entropy is unusable energy, it cannot be turned into matter. Since all matter will eventually be transformed into entropy, matter cannot be eternal. Don't believe me? I'm not surprised, but your disbelief doesn't change reality.

Well this thread is more about empirical evidence, which is a level I'm happy to debate on. So we have two opposing concepts

1) I think there's a supreme being that created matter, and this supreme being always existed
2) You think that matter probably always just existed

I have no problem with a stale mate on that basis, what I do have a problem with is when evolutionists appear arrogant yet without facts to back themselves up.

On a seperate note, I personally feel that there are enough supernatural occurrences in life to acknowledge a whole supernatural world out there, just ask your neighbour, your best friend etc etc. Most people will acknowledge having seen a spirit, had a wierd experience with an Ouija board, a prophecy fulfilled, a healing. People normally come across these occurrences a couple of times in a lifetime. There's a spiritual world out there inexplicable to science.

It is different. We know that matter is not eternal. Eventually, all matter will be turned into entropy. God is beyond our knowledge or comprehension. God is not composed of matter or limited by time. God is outside the human experience and it is therefore plausible for an eternal God to exist. For an "eternal matter" to exist, it would have to go against known science, making it far less plausible.

RKISIT presented himself as an atheist and an evolutionist, my arguments were related to him being an atheist and so you are correct to point out my error in semantics, let me then repeat my point with the more correct semantic wording which is important to you:

ATHEISTS also believe in miraculous processes.

1) The spontaeous creation of matter from nothing.
2) The spontaneous creation of DNA, the smallest observed is over 500000 base pairs long, how did it get there?
3) Favourable increases in the DNA length from less than 1 million base pairs to organisms of over 150 billion base pairs.

It takes an extreme faith to believe in all these processes that are never observed in reality. As unbelieveable as the thought of an eternal loving all-powerful being is, the alternatives are also unbelieveable. If you take a perfectly scientific approach, I believe the balance of evidence points to a creator, that is how little actual evidence there is for beneficial DNA lengthening on which the whole concept of evolving is based.

Now you also point out a strawman argument? Could you tell me where? Also where is your proof that DNA can lengthen in a beneficiial manner to an organism and to such an extent that it would result in natural selection of the mutated organism? Without that proof you do not have any evidence for evolution as an explanation for the appearance of modern advanced life-forms. Its just an hypothesis, let's say an interesting idea without any backup.

I think you mean electrons around an atom, not protons.

The reason supermassive black holes are expected to be found at the center of galaxies is the speed of the innermost stars as we view them from a distance. They quickly orbit a massive invisible object that can be no known object but a black hole.

So what do you think about the scientists speculating there is a black hole at the center of the earth? (Due to the voracious appetite of black holes I don't see how this can be).

Actors! We need to quote actors!!!

The reality is that there is NO EVIDENCE of demolition charges being used in the buildings.

There is EXTENSIVE PROOF of the plane and fuel bringing the buildings down.

The MATH and PHYSICS 100% back up the plane and fuel bringing the buildings down from forensic modeling, empirical modeling, predictive modeling, and evidence.

The MATH and PHYSICS 100% prohibit a demolition scenario.

ALL "Evidence" submitted by the "truthers" has been debunked to the infinite detail.

Shotgun argumentation...

Okay...

Yes, I have heard of the Spanish Inquisition. That happened over 500 years ago. I guess I should have been more specific and asked for a recent example.

Salem witch hunts. If you look at the actual history, you will discover that the legal authorities imprisoned, tortured and executed "witches", while Christians (such as minister Cotton Mather) called for the "witches" to be freed. It wasn't until the governors own wife was accused of being a witch that the arrests were finally stopped. The Salem witch trials were an example of out of control government, not religious extremism.

The Irish issues were more about loyalists vs separatists. The only thing that made it religious is that Catholics were mostly separatists, so the loyalists targeted Catholics in an attempt to destroy the separatists power base.

Democide (murder by a person's own Government) has killed more people than the crusades, the Salem witch trials, the Spanish inquisition and every war in recorded history combined.