still no tangibles from you,hmm?

you all seem to think that,not me!
Iraq is a separate Issue!
Wasn't necessary for the Bush-Admin to use 9/11 as a pretext,since planning had already started under Slick Willy!

And both Sides of the Aisle were on Board before 9/11!

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html


"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."

State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois)
Speech at Federal Plaza, Chicago, Illinois
October 2, 2002


"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. I'm a co-sponsor of the bipartisan Resolution that's presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave threat to America and our allies. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons today, that he's used them in the past, and that he's doing everything he can to build more. Every day he gets closer to his long-term goal of nuclear capability.

Democracy will not spring up by itself overnight in a multi-ethnic, complicated society that's suffered under one repressive regime after another for generations. The Iraqi people deserve and need our help to rebuild their lives and to create a prosperous, thriving, open society. All Iraqis, including Sunnis, Shia and Kurds, deserve to be represented. This is not just a moral imperative. It's a security imperative. It is in America's national interest to help build an Iraq at peace with itself and its neighbors, because a democratic, tolerant and accountable Iraq will be a peaceful regional partner, and such an Iraq could serve as a model for the entire Arab world."

Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina)
Speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
October 7, 2002

"In the next century, the community of nations may see more and more the very kind of threat Iraq poses now -- a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction ready to use them or provide them to terrorists, drug traffickers or organized criminals who travel the world among us unnoticed.

If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program."

President Clinton
Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff
February 17, 1998

America is threatened by an "unholy axis":

"We must exercise responsibility not just at home, but around the world. On the eve of a new century, we have the power and the duty to build a new era of peace and security.

We must combat an unholy axis of new threats from terrorists, international criminals, and drug traffickers. These 21st century predators feed on technology and the free flow of information... And they will be all the more lethal if weapons of mass destruction fall into their hands.

Together, we must confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons and the outlaw states, terrorists, and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."

President Clinton
State of the Union address
January 27, 1998


"Imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened, believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. And some day, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again, as he has ten times since 1983."

Sandy Berger, President Clinton's National Security Advisor
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998

I don't think Conrad is a shill. Its entirely possible he believes everything he says.

come on,post some evidence!

...and like I said,I still only have your assertion that 9/11 was used to attack Saddam again!
Post some Evidence,instead accusing people of being Shills!

paid by whom?

so far I have only your word for it!

Nope,wasn't necessary,Resolution 1441 contained everything for taking out Saddam!
His Refusal to adhere to the Conditions of the Cease Fire,his Rearming,and general Violations of all the Obligations he'd signed led to the continuance of Hostilities!

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

I'm happy to see that there are some people in America who can think for themselves and don't listen to the propaganda and believe the lies.

Nonsense!
Iraq was in the making from Slick Willy's time!

I had ancestors on both sides.

Did I mention the gypsy culture is very secretive?

I have gypsy blood running through my veins. Hence the desire to read you palm, dance around a fire and steal the hearts of every man.

Whore, what's wrong with that? My Great Grandmother was a Whore, sold into slavery at a very young age, her Dad lost her in a Gamboling Debt in Germany. She was crated and sold to a House of Ill Repute here in the Americas. I visited my Great Grandmother often when I was young, enjoyed her stories of early America. Today I live next door to two Brothels here in Nevada; I enjoy just sitting and talking with them frequently, and that talk is never about their profession, other then politically. I do take offense to their profession being spoken of in a derogatory manner. Indeed there are even rumors that the Presidents Mother was a Prostitute, which would gain my respect for her, certainly she was a Nude Model, which is already respectful.

What I consider a negative, is people who stand against crimes of nature. Without Sex none of us would be here, but sex is a sin, and often a crime, yet war is honorable.

As a Society, we take pride in killing each other, Honers, Metals, Awards, and Movies. But the act of summoning new life into this world, disgraceful, shameful, criminal... I think society needs to see a Psychologist, but we certainly need to quit condoning people for our nature.

They have a show on PBS that uncovers the past for folks. I find it very interesting. I could say where I think I come from based on stories but I would be interested someday in having it investigated. According to the shows on this that I did see most of the people who have this done are fairly surprised in their actual family tree.