What lack of justice, now or then? Are you aware of what justice is?

Obviously not or you would understand justice was served in both instances. Of course it would be impossible for one believing that perception is somehow truth. Let me help with that understanding, with some exceptions of course, there would be no help there.

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is. No such thing as truth in the future.

Perception is not reality, but our work is to align the two, truth and perception.

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

Ah sir, on that I believe you are mistaken. The Feds with Odumbo as lead have yet to truly inject their poison.

Well, I guess this answers the first question, the bottom is no where in sight.

OMG, is there any limit to depravity. Of course they will be there, just as things start to show signs of slowing down.

So hilarious. Let's offer some other quotes:



And as to why, that is the key question. Many know how, it is but those that know the why that advance.

And as to Jesus...

Teachability

An individuals teachability, or their ability to learn by way of being taught by someone else, is extremely dependent upon the open-mindedness or close-mindedness of the individual being taught.

Low teachability derives from arrogance and rigid skepticism, but also from naivete and gullibility. High teachability derives from a balance between healthy skepticism and an open-minded willingness to learn and change.

Human beings should consider with great care their sources for information. By refusing to present certain information, and by influencing people to dismiss certain information as unimportant or unnecessary to consider, many modern institutions seek to control human perceptions and therefore to limit what human beings may come to understand.

And just in case it was missed before:

Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why? There is that question again.

But in the future I will try to dredge up more quotes from Jesus as the philosophy he espoused is so relevant.

Also, I would suggest you go back and read the passage on the sword, it is not as you think.

Really, are there any cites for that claim? And the one capable of being a self don't need clear tunnels, they can make them; don't need lighted passages as they are capable of providing light.

It is only those which needs to be the slave of another that must wait for another to provide the path and the light.

Actually, I did thank you. But I hope you do not believe that I wrote all that either to or for you as that would be a wasted of both my time and attention, life's most precious currencies.

I wrote to the subject which is worth both my time and attention. And it is the subject to which those that will, will. And to which others will lose attention and have wasted their time.

And your proclamation, one way or the other is but a grain of time within eternity and matters little in the overall scheme of things.

The vast majority here require others to think for them, but the few... And those few...

Chaos is a teacher. It teaches us, through apophasis, what not to do. The control and slavery system is about limitation of free will through the destruction of possibility.

True freedom includes infinite possibility, which by definition, includes the possibility of chaos. This possibility must be embraced without fear if we are to be truly free. The fear of the possibility of chaos is the fear of true freedom. The fear of the possibility of chaos is the death of the imagination.

Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible.

Through their fear of the possibility of chaos (true freedom), most people advocate the legitimacy and continuance of "authority" and government, and are therefore actually advocating the legitimacy and continuance of violence and slavery.

Those who believe that "authority" is necessary and that it must continue, have actually been duped into believing that human slavery is necessary and must continue in order to prevent chaos.



One of the problems with Alexis was his constant use of the interchangeability of republic and democracy. But here is a quote showing socialism at its most.



But then the words of Ben Franklin go a long way toward addressing your comment:

And just what part of this fallacy is so hard to grasp? They all believed in authority and would say or do anything to get within their grasp the POWER or authority.

Authority

An illusion of a diseased psyche, based entirely in violence and built upon the erroneous and dogmatic belief that some people are masters who have the moral right to issue commands, and others are slaves who have a moral obligation to obey the masters. Slavery

The belief in the legitimacy of "authority" is the belief in the legitimacy of slavery. Ultimately, "authority" is the idea that man can become God and through "jurisdiction" dictate the law.



Only those that believe in the legitimacy of slavery feel compelled to support the fallacy of "government":

Government

From the Latin verb gubernare: "to control", and the Latin noun mens: "mind". The etymological origin of the English suffix -ment is often debated, yet it is overwhelmingly clear that those who created the English language deliberately chose mens, the Latin word for "mind" to mean "the state of" or "the condition of", in direct keeping with the first principle of natural law, the Principle of Mentalism, which demonstrates that in order for any particular thing, event, circumstance, state, or condition to exist as it currently does in our manifested reality (the Plane of Effects), it must first have existed in the mind (the Plane of Causality).

And only the ignorant could accept the claims of expert from another without knowing how the claim manifested. Sort of like electing politicians, vote for them even though little is actually known about them and then declare in wonderment when there true nature shines through after the fact.

But while I have the title of "expert" in many areas, none are of my own devise but construed by peers, themselves experts in the area. I believe in doing nothing except at the level of the best I can do. And while I may not always be "the" best, there is always tomorrow.



Many in this world live lives of imagination, always trying to imagine what it would be like to live in their fantasy world. Notice I did not say dream because the dreamers wake and strive to move forward into the world of their dreams. They are the ones that move humanity forward, not those of an imaginary world.

And beware of one that does not love one's self because theirs is but to show contempt for another. And of course if one is in love with it's self, it would love all of it's own grandness and self-superiority for to believe any other would reduce that love to slavery, the living of life for another, a statist.

Statism

The brilliant idea that we give a small group of people the right to kidnap, imprison, harass, steal from and kill people, so that we can be protected from people who kidnap, harass, steal and kill people.

A statist is an individual who erroneously believes that there is such a thing as "authority" vested in certain human beings magically giving them the "right to rule" over other people. This "authority" means that certain people who we call "government", have the "moral right" to issue commands to those whom they rule (those under their "jurisdiction"), and that their "subjects" (slaves) have a "moral obligation" to obey the arbitrary dictates set by their masters. Most simply put, a statist is someone who believes in the legitimacy of slavery.

Conversely, an anarchist is the one who knows that there could never be legitimacy to "authority" or "government" because those terms are simply euphemisms for violence and slavery, which are always immoral and in opposition to natural law.



And this is the whole fallacy as those that can and will create care less about others, they are totally selfish. There are those that need and those that are needed. Those that need are but the blight on prosperity of those that are needed.

There are two "spiritual currencies": time and attention. This analogy can be seen very readily in the sayings "spending time" and "paying attention". Whatever information or endeavors we put our time and attention toward, we end up getting something in return for that investment. This return could come in the form of knowledge, understanding, skills, expertise, and empowerment, if we invest our spiritual currencies wisely.

Therefore we should seek to improve the quality of our attention by placing it upon information that is capable of improving both ourselves and the human condition as a whole. Such an effect would also constitute a valuable investment of our time. We should ask ourselves "what am I spending my time on?", what am I paying attention to?", and most importantly "what kind of quality am I getting in return for these investments of my spiritual currency?".

It is all a matter of self as I live my life for none other than me and I ask no man to live his life for me for as Jesus said:

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the Earth, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A man's enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. Anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." - Jesus (Matthew 10: 34-39)

"And as ye enter into the house, salute it. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, as ye go forth out of that house or that city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city. Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." (Matthew 10: 12-16)

An individuals teachability, or their ability to learn by way of being taught by someone else, is extremely dependent upon the open-mindedness or close-mindedness of the individual being taught. Low teachability derives from arrogance and rigid skepticism, but also from naivet� and gullibility. High teachability derives from a balance between healthy skepticism and an open-minded willingness to learn and change.

Human beings should consider with great care their sources for information. By refusing to present certain information, and by influencing people to dismiss certain information as unimportant or unnecessary to consider, many modern institutions seek to control human perceptions and therefore to limit what human beings may come to understand.

Since human beings, as a species, do not already have the things they say they want, it follows logically that the knowledge of the requirements to obtaining the things they say they want either must be absent, or if present, that knowledge must be willfully ignored. As long as this knowledge continues to remain unknown or ignored, the manifestation of the desired conditions will be impossible.

Nescience vs Ignorance - The context of not knowing.

Nescience

From the Latin verb nesciere: "to not know because knowledge was absent or unobtainable"

Ignorance

From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

Ignorance carries blame. The masses are in a state of ignorance.

The question is why?

Truth vs Perception

Truth is objective, meaning that it is not based on perceptions of human beings (which is capable of wavering). Truth is simply that which is. It is that which has occurred in the past and that which is occurring in the present. That which is, no such thing as truth in the future.

The ALL is mind. The universe is mental. Thoughts lead to the manifestation of things and events. Thoughts create our store of existence and the quality of our experience here on earth. Therefore, be responsible for everything you create by being responsible for everything that you think.

Everything that happens has to do with the mental state that preceded it. Thought forms first and then they form the physical reality afterward.

If you want to change reality, then you must change the way you think because the way you think is not conducive to the requirements for getting what you say you want.

The positive aspect of the Initiating Expression of Natural law is knowledge, or the acceptance of truth. Knowledge positively influences the quality of our lives because it positively influences our decision-making processes in every area of our lives.

The negative aspect of the Initiating Expression is Ignorance, or the refusal of truth. Ignorance negatively influences the quality of our lives because it negatively influences our decision-making processes in every area of our lives.

The positive aspect of the Internal Expression of Natural law is Sovereignty, or it could be called Internal Monarchy (one ruler within). As a state of consciousness, sovereignty means that one has unified the three aspects of their consciousness, such that there is no contradiction between one's thoughts, emotions, and actions.

The word sovereign is derived from the Latin adverb super: "above" and the Latin noun regnum: "rulership, control". Thus sovereign means "one who is above the rulership or control of another, not a subject or slave.

A sovereign is a monarch, (mon: "one" and archon: "ruler"), a single ruler who rules only the kingdom of self. Sovereignty is a state in which one controls one's own thoughts, emotions, and actions, and by bringing them into unity / non-contradiction / non-duality, attains mastery of one's own consciousness.

Manifestation
The positive aspect of the Manifestation is Order, or manifested goodness. Order represents everything we say we want. Order results only when there is balance, or justice, which can only be present when truth has been accepted and our behavior has been brought into harmony with natural law.

The negative Manifestation is Chaos, or manifested evil. Chaos is the exact opposite of what we say we want. Chaos results when there is imbalance and injustice which results whenever there is ignorance of truth and behavior which is in opposition to natural law.



Authority

An illusion of a diseased psyche, based entirely in violence and built upon the erroneous and dogmatic belief that some people are masters who have the moral right to issue commands, and others are slaves who have a moral obligation to obey the masters. Slavery

The belief in the legitimacy of "authority" is the belief in the legitimacy of slavery. Ultimately, "authority" is the idea that man can become God and through "jurisdiction" dictate the law.

The one true divide that separates humanity into two distinct types of individuals. The criterion for the divide is whether or not an individual believes in "authority" and therefore believes that there is legitimacy to slavery.

And so, which side of the divide do you fall? Personally I AN NOT NOR WILL EVER BE a SLAVE.

And don't forget, there were those that voted for Romney, McCain, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Gore, Kerry...

My question is, what's the difference?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iE9o_o96pA

Here is Russia Today acting even stupider than MSNBC and CNN. Where they found these two losers for the after action analysis, well they must be MSNBC rejects.

Yes there is truth to your statements but the problem is still but a small portion of the police force but getting larger by the day. The federal government, like in so many things that are awry in our world, has taken over the training of the police using the same tactics as the military.

And why doesn't these "rogue" elements get disciplined? Well the reasons should be obvious, it is but to look at what passes for society and the implied goals of the elite to understand matters, or at least for a prudent soul to understand which leaves a huge segment of the population without a clue.

Question what, there was no bat, it was a football game?

The positive aspect of the Initiating Expression of Natural Law (how it starts) is knowledge, or the acceptance of truth. Knowledge positively influences the quality of our lives because it positively influences our decision-making processes in every area of our lives.

The negative aspect of the Initiating Expression is Ignorance, or the refusal of truth. Ignorance negatively influences the quality of our lives because it negatively influences our decision-making processes in every area of our lives.

It is important to remember that ignorance should be distinguished from Nescience. Nescience means not knowing because necessary information is not present or unobtainable. Ignorance on the other hand, means not knowing even though necessary information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

"No people will tamely surrender their liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and virtue is preserved. On the contrary, when people are universally ignorant, and debauched in their manners, they will sink under their own weight without the aid of foreign invaders." - Samuel Adams.

"The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates

No, it has not been established. Those mystical beings in their black robes are not supreme beings but just members of the BAR with a political bent right along with all the other psychopaths in government. And where in the constitution does that mystical organization have the power to legislate?

They offer nothing but opinions that really carry no weight until those other illustrious members of that private club start to spread that opinion around like it actually meant something. But in a rare moment of partial honesty actually stated some semblance of the truth.

"A statutory or constitutional court (whether it be an appellate or supreme court) may not second guess the judgment of a common law court of record. The Supreme Court of the USA acknowledges the common law as supreme: "The judgment of a court of record whose jurisdiction is final, is as conclusive on all the world as the judgment of this court would be. It is as conclusive on this court as it is on other courts. It puts an end to inquiry concerning the fact, by deciding it." Ex parte Watkins, 3 Pet., at 202-203 as cited by SCHNECKLOTH v. BUSTAMONTE, 412 U.S. 218, 255 (1973)"

And yes, most governments have been converted from an entity of the people and by the people to a for profit corporations and profits have been great.

But when "cities" are sued and those illustrious law members rake off their take off the top, just where does the money come from? The government, not likely as they have nothing that wasn't stolen from the people.

Well credit your credit is due, you did get part of it right, that your sense of judgement and language are still lacking understanding of even the most rudimentary skills.

"Our contemporaries are constantly wracked by two warring passions: they feel the need to be led and the desire to remain free. Unable to destroy either of these contrary instincts, they seek to satisfy both at once. They imagine a single, omnipotent, tutelary power, but one that is elected by the citizens. They combine centralization with popular sovereignty. This gives them some respite. They console themselves for being treated as wards by imagining that they have chosen their own protectors. Each individual allows himself to be clapped in chains because that the other end of the chain is held not by a man or a class but by the people themselves."
― Alexis de Tocqueville

Those who believe that "authority" is necessary and that it must continue, have actually been duped into believing that human slavery is necessary and must continue in order to prevent chaos.

No class here, none at all.

Really, would love to see the source on that little tidbit.

I know the government doesn't think much about the soldiers but they still haven't stooped to believing them animals and that is what they would have to do as this stuff is only approved for veterinary trials.

Suneris' premier product, VETIGEL, is designed exclusively for veterinarians to stop internal and external bleeding.

Do you have some super secret source that the government officially declared the soldiers are pigs?

Doesn't change matters, does it? Just an acceptance of the sting.