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The American people will not allow a corrupt machine to dictate their future. Do you mean like the previous administration? Please do some reading and stop acting as if the people who used to run the government had your or my best interest in mind. The corruption in the Bush administration was unprecedented. From Halliburton to Carlyle to the C.I.A. these criminals systematically stole billions, if not trillions from the National Treasury. Since you brought it up, yes the people did speak decisively...that is why Obama got elected or did you forget the fact that this was part of the platform he ran on. This is why he was elected. He promised this and now he is trying to deliver on that promise. If Bush wasn’t so focused on raping the country perhaps he would have had some time to address this issue over the eight years he was in office. Aside from the fact that you have seen people on Fox News say it, what part of the executive order is unconstitutional? What it does is reaffirm restrictions on federal funding of abortion. The bill that was passed (by a legal vote) already said this. It is unconstitutional because it forces you to buy something and penalizes you if you don't. THAT right there is unconstitutional PERIOD. On those grounds it will be thrown out by the Conservatively held Supreme Court. The only thing President Bush did was protect this country because of an act of war(Which hasn't happened on or main lad in over a hundred years. Extreme measures for extreme circumstances. If it were me those terrorist bastards would never have made it from the black sites to g-bay. The executive order in and of itself is in no way unconstitutional; again, what it does is reaffirm restrictions on federal funding of abortion. Bush protected no one; he went off and started a war with the wrong people. A war in which he and many others continue to profit from today. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 03/24/10 12:45 PM
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If this health care bill is unconstitutional, that makes Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional then.
It's the same kind of talk that occurred when Social Security came about. |
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IN the end, the LEGAL EXPERTS Will duke it out and we will all have to sit on the sidelines and watch with our non expert opinions....
like I said though, I think by that time , there will be plenty of more important and time sensitive issues which will have arisen to take the place of this one,,and all the passion and drama that goes along with it |
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The American people will not allow a corrupt machine to dictate their future. Do you mean like the previous administration? Please do some reading and stop acting as if the people who used to run the government had your or my best interest in mind. The corruption in the Bush administration was unprecedented. From Halliburton to Carlyle to the C.I.A. these criminals systematically stole billions, if not trillions from the National Treasury. Since you brought it up, yes the people did speak decisively...that is why Obama got elected or did you forget the fact that this was part of the platform he ran on. This is why he was elected. He promised this and now he is trying to deliver on that promise. If Bush wasn’t so focused on raping the country perhaps he would have had some time to address this issue over the eight years he was in office. Aside from the fact that you have seen people on Fox News say it, what part of the executive order is unconstitutional? What it does is reaffirm restrictions on federal funding of abortion. The bill that was passed (by a legal vote) already said this. It is unconstitutional because it forces you to buy something and penalizes you if you don't. THAT right there is unconstitutional PERIOD. On those grounds it will be thrown out by the Conservatively held Supreme Court. The only thing President Bush did was protect this country because of an act of war(Which hasn't happened on or main lad in over a hundred years. Extreme measures for extreme circumstances. If it were me those terrorist bastards would never have made it from the black sites to g-bay. The executive order in and of itself is in no way unconstitutional; again, what it does is reaffirm restrictions on federal funding of abortion. Bush protected no one; he went off and started a war with the wrong people. A war in which he and many others continue to profit from today. Didn't protect anyone? You do realize that we didn't have another attack on the 50 states after 9/11 right? You realize the things he and his administration did kept that from happening. Not to mention took the Taliban out of power and saved millions and millions of Iraqui's from genocide at the hands of Saddam. |
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Edited by
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If this health care bill is unconstitutional, that makes Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional then. It's the same kind of talk that occurred when Social Security came about. No its not. You sound like a broken record. 38 seperate states didnt file suits and enact laws to repel social security. Never have the states united like this to repel a bill. |
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Wed 03/24/10 12:56 PM
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If this health care bill is unconstitutional, that makes Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional then. It's the same kind of talk that occurred when Social Security came about. No its not. You sound like a broken record. 38 seperate states didnt file suits and enact laws to repel social security. Never have the states united like this to repel a bill. 38 states havent filed suits this time either,, its more like 12 at this point and twenty one of the then 34 states united before to protest government involvement in the SLAVERY business,,,,so this is not a first by far for states to 'unite' against government decisions.. |
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If this health care bill is unconstitutional, that makes Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional then. It's the same kind of talk that occurred when Social Security came about. No its not. You sound like a broken record. 38 seperate states didnt file suits and enact laws to repel social security. Never have the states united like this to repel a bill. 38 states havent filed suits this time either,, its more like 12 at this point 38 total have agreed to file suit. Some are still preparing but 38 pledged that they would. I guarantee within a week the other 26 will have by then. Not to mention the Democratic AG of Nevada looks like she is going to as well, and the Governor has said if she doesn't he will. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 03/24/10 01:01 PM
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If this health care bill is unconstitutional, that makes Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional then. It's the same kind of talk that occurred when Social Security came about. No its not. You sound like a broken record. 38 seperate states didnt file suits and enact laws to repel social security. Never have the states united like this to repel a bill. 38 states havent filed suits this time either,, its more like 12 at this point 38 total have agreed to file suit. Some are still preparing but 38 pledged that they would. I guarantee within a week the other 26 will have by then. Not to mention the Democratic AG of Nevada looks like she is going to as well, and the Governor has said if she doesn't he will. can you list the states or point me to the source that verifies this ? I have this sentence "Thirty-eight states have either filed or announced their intentions to file ALEC’s Freedom of Choice in Health Care Act, model legislation that would ensure a patient’s right to pay directly for medical care and prohibit an individual from being penalized for not purchasing health insurance" that was tuesday,, not another peep since,, and intentions,,do not actions make |
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Bush had the best credentials money could buy, that didn't make him smart, but it did make him a drunk!  The above comment is directed at you also.  
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 03/24/10 01:03 PM
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If this health care bill is unconstitutional, that makes Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional then. It's the same kind of talk that occurred when Social Security came about. No its not. You sound like a broken record. 38 seperate states didnt file suits and enact laws to repel social security. Never have the states united like this to repel a bill. That's funny. I think that you sound like a broken record. This is only the second time that I've mentioned it. Also, it IS the same kind of talked that occurred when Social Security came about. People were shouting about Socialism then too. Btw, 38 states haven't filed suits. I think 13 did though. I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised if they're all red states. |
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If this health care bill is unconstitutional, that makes Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional then. It's the same kind of talk that occurred when Social Security came about. No its not. You sound like a broken record. 38 seperate states didnt file suits and enact laws to repel social security. Never have the states united like this to repel a bill. 38 states havent filed suits this time either,, its more like 12 at this point 38 total have agreed to file suit. Some are still preparing but 38 pledged that they would. I guarantee within a week the other 26 will have by then. Not to mention the Democratic AG of Nevada looks like she is going to as well, and the Governor has said if she doesn't he will. can you list the states or point me to the source that verifies this ? I have this sentence "Thirty-eight states have either filed or announced their intentions to file ALEC’s Freedom of Choice in Health Care Act, model legislation that would ensure a patient’s right to pay directly for medical care and prohibit an individual from being penalized for not purchasing health insurance" that was tuesday,, not another peep since,, and intentions,,do not actions make Just loook at the numerous articles i've posted on the subject, of which you've replied to. |
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The American people will not allow a corrupt machine to dictate their future. Do you mean like the previous administration? Please do some reading and stop acting as if the people who used to run the government had your or my best interest in mind. The corruption in the Bush administration was unprecedented. From Halliburton to Carlyle to the C.I.A. these criminals systematically stole billions, if not trillions from the National Treasury. Since you brought it up, yes the people did speak decisively...that is why Obama got elected or did you forget the fact that this was part of the platform he ran on. This is why he was elected. He promised this and now he is trying to deliver on that promise. If Bush wasn’t so focused on raping the country perhaps he would have had some time to address this issue over the eight years he was in office. Aside from the fact that you have seen people on Fox News say it, what part of the executive order is unconstitutional? What it does is reaffirm restrictions on federal funding of abortion. The bill that was passed (by a legal vote) already said this. It is unconstitutional because it forces you to buy something and penalizes you if you don't. THAT right there is unconstitutional PERIOD. On those grounds it will be thrown out by the Conservatively held Supreme Court. The only thing President Bush did was protect this country because of an act of war(Which hasn't happened on or main lad in over a hundred years. Extreme measures for extreme circumstances. If it were me those terrorist bastards would never have made it from the black sites to g-bay. The executive order in and of itself is in no way unconstitutional; again, what it does is reaffirm restrictions on federal funding of abortion. Bush protected no one; he went off and started a war with the wrong people. A war in which he and many others continue to profit from today. Didn't protect anyone? You do realize that we didn't have another attack on the 50 states after 9/11 right? You realize the things he and his administration did kept that from happening. Not to mention took the Taliban out of power and saved millions and millions of Iraqui's from genocide at the hands of Saddam. Do you seriously believe that? As if no other president would have taken SOME of the steps he took to protect the country? So who gets the credit for the previous 100 years that you mentioned? Lol and should we hand it Obama for his efforts over the past year since we have not been successfully attacked? Wow! What a stretch… |
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Btw, 38 states haven't filed suits. I think 13 did though. I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised if they're all red states. 
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I have a question for you...do you have government mandated auto insurance?
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I have a question for you...do you have government mandated auto insurance? Yup, but you only have to buy it if you CHOOSE to drive. There are other options and the government doesnt force or penalize every American to have it. |
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Wed 03/24/10 01:27 PM
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I have a question for you...do you have government mandated auto insurance? Yup, but you only have to buy it if you CHOOSE to drive. There are other options and the government doesnt force or penalize every American to have it. the law says if you drive you must have it. by your argument this must be unconstitutional as well. the penalty is that you don't get to drive. that is your option |
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I have a question for you...do you have government mandated auto insurance? Yup, but you only have to buy it if you CHOOSE to drive. There are other options and the government doesnt force or penalize every American to have it. the law says if you drive you must have it. by your argument this must be unconstitutional as well No, I can choose not to drive. I am not forced to. |
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I can choose not to drive 
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Edited by
kc0003
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Wed 03/24/10 01:36 PM
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I have a question for you...do you have government mandated auto insurance? Yup, but you only have to buy it if you CHOOSE to drive. There are other options and the government doesnt force or penalize every American to have it. the law says if you drive you must have it. by your argument this must be unconstitutional as well No, I can choose not to drive. I am not forced to. I am willing to bet you do drive and therefore you have no choise in the matter |
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The video on this site addresses all of the legal questions:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/23/health.care.lawsuit/index.html Click on "Will legal challenges work?" 
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