hey.
i hate people too.
:D

Nobody...with all due respect "helps" anyone unless they feel some greater reward in doing so.....

if by greater reward you mean a sense of compassion, then i agree. otherwise, 'nobody' is gonna be really disappointed in this life always expecting something in return, that's a sad outlook...IMHO.

I fired a woman tonight. She's in her 40's, has a 17 yr. old daughter, which she is raising on her own.

With out going into all the details, shortly after I hired her 6 months ago, her life went to hell. I risked my life AND loaned her over 2 grand to help her out. Because that's what you do when you see someone in need that you can help.

Tonight, I got proof that she was stealing from me. Selling merchandise under the counter. I don't know how much, yet. At least $800 so far. I won't know the full extent of her treachery until I do a full inventory. Which will cost me even more money.

I'm not helping people any more.
Instead, I think I'll just drink alot. It hurts less and never really disappoints.

Fnord.
(and I'm damn glad I have a backspace button. typing drunk is hard)

Agreed. I've been in that sort of position (not the hiring part, just the helping part) way too many times, with the same sort of results. Nobody appreciates anything, nobody cares.

People suck. Plain and simple. And I'm not doing anything for anybody ever again.

if by greater reward you mean a sense of compassion, then i agree. otherwise, 'nobody' is gonna be really disappointed in this life always expecting something in return, that's a sad outlook...IMHO.

Agreed. I've been in that sort of position (not the hiring part, just the helping part) way too many times, with the same sort of results. Nobody appreciates anything, nobody cares.

People suck. Plain and simple. And I'm not doing anything for anybody ever again.

Ain't that the truth. Why do people gotta be that way?

Indeed.
And what's also sad is that now the next person I come across who needs help won't get it from me.

to the O.P. -I hear ya- been there-done that....


however somewhere out there - were some decent human beings who would've done a good job and appreciated your kindness...

unfortunately they never crossed your path-


Karma will come back-it always does....

Unless Karma gives her a heartattack or she steps in front of a bus, I won't be satisfied.

there is a difference between a hand up and a hand out..

there are people in the world who fall into hard times and just need a hand up to get back on track..you can tell who they are..they never ask, the do everything they can to hide their situation, never wanting to bother or trouble other people..would cut off their right hand before betraying a confidence..

then there are the "hand out" type...always crying, complaining that the world isnt fair, that they have soooo many problems and "woe is me, what am I going to do...?" anything you give isnt enough and on top of that they´ll screw you over if they think they can benefit from it.

I never hesitate to help the first group..as for the second group, I turn and walk away without a moments hesitation....to the OP, just learn to recognize the difference and you can continue to be a member of the human race without worry...

It's a good question, and one for which I have no answer. All I know is that that's the only kind I've ever experienced. And there comes a time when it just doesn't make any sense to keep on giving the benefit of the doubt anymore. If that's all that's out there, then there's no point in wasting yourself and your resources.

Here is one for you -- I grew up in a small town in mb. I ticked off 2 women by not taking their crap. When I moved out to a city (unfortunately not far enough)- I lived my life. Then a time later, I started a new job, which I later found out that one of the women (that I ticked off) contacted my employer and said several nasty things about me(sour lover, and other....etc). I ended up leaving my job. I really could not find decent work. I ended up with an *******-left him, with my child. I moved back to the same small town (only place where i had family to help). I couldn't get a decent job in the shithole. I worked the crap jobs, took courses and went into debt
Years later still working (took a long time but got a little better job) and loaded down with debts--can't afford to move. I am older, now my kid near graduation. The years living in the shithole----I lived a life of a hermit-explains why I resorted to dating sites. So I know and lived how people are cruel, vindictive, two-faced, gossipy, and low-life they can be (there a very few exceptions)....This is only a very small tidbit of the crap I have encountered because of people.
PS. The 2 people that started all this are rich...they both ended up with rich men. So all you men that cry the blues ...look in the mirror -you made the choice so you live with it!!!!

With all due respect, I understand how your feeling, I think weve all been there. However, you cant give gifts,or help with expectations attached. Once somethings given, its gone. Its on the reciever then, not on you. You did the right thing...karma will reward you for it...the other person is in the wrong, but theve got bad karma on thier azz now. Just wait, you will see that person get exactly what they deserve. Happens every time. While you go on to live a good life...this person has set themselves back a mile. They are thier own worst enemy and will have a rotten life for it. Please this world needs more openhearted peeps, not less. Be true to yourself and be the good person you truly are.

then it makes me suspect that you had a whole lot more invested in this woman than just money...