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Topic: The Problem With Evolution?
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Mon 01/30/12 11:40 AM














Yeah, true. God willed her egg to be fertilized and it was. No need for sex, no need for semen. With God all things are possible.


God filling Mary up with his Holy Spirit is how God spread his sperm


No, there was no sperm involved. They did not have sex. Sperm is what God has given us for procreation. God doesn't have to use any sperm. He wills it and it's done.

God willed for Marry to be conceived with Jesus and it was done. No sperm, no sex, no foreplay, no dinner, just that simple, God willed it to be and it was done.


CowboyGH,

How does getting suckered into discussions about "God sperm" help spread the gospel? Has anyone learned anything new from your constant back and forth with Funches?


It passes the time and gives me something to do while I'm sitting here bored after work lol.


Not meaning this as an insult in anyway, but doing this gives great display of Funches Arrogance. Debating weather a religion is true or not never bares good fruit. You can not "convince" another of a belief. They have to come to it on their own. But it's hard for me to just sit by while someone lies about God. I do not wish for people to be left with Funches' confusion, disbelief, and arrogance.

Things I post are not for Funches in exacts. I do not discuss with Funches. I discuss with the words he types out. I discuss with the topic, not the person. This keeps any personal grudges or any form of emotion towards the one being discussed with.


This is a perfect example of how professizing goes off the tracks, alienates people, angers them....You are taking pleasure in the hope that other will find Funches arrogant, see him in an unflattering light...It is very unchristian of you Cowboy....

It is not your job to enlighten others about Funches truths or lies...That is up to each individual, to make their own determination...You give others too little credit, perhaps they are not the least bit confused by what Funches posts....Perhaps they are intelligent enough, schooled enough, to sort out lies from truths, decide who is arrogant and who is not...Perhaps your give yourself too much credit....



This is a perfect example of how professizing goes off the tracks, alienates people, angers them....You are taking pleasure in the hope that other will find Funches arrogant, see him in an unflattering light...It is very unchristian of you Cowboy


Did not say that at all. Did not say I hope others find Funches arrogant, see him in an unflatting light, did not say one bit of that.

Again, I DO NOT DISCUSS WITH THE PERSON. I discuss with the words. Wouldn't matter if Funches said this stuff, or Paul, or Bob. You just see alot of discussing between Funches and I specifically because no one else to very few other people discuss against Christianity.

And it doesn't matter to me if other people see funches in an arrogant way, unflattering light, or anything. They can see him how ever they wish to see him. Again, it's the beliefs we're discussing, not the persons. And his beliefs are his beliefs. Which I know nothing about for he doesn't share his beliefs. He only shares his disbeliefs. He only comes here to deny. Or at least that's the way it seems, for again he doesn't to very rarely share his own beliefs, just his disbeliefs.


And if it's very unchristian of me. What would be the Christian thing to do? Leave the truth in the dark and let someone's lies be last thing said?



YES!....Leave it in your God's hands....not only are you not helping you cause with this mindless banter, you are hurting it....Give people some credit...it is not "all" about you Cowboy....


You were almost correct. Only thing you were mistaken on, is it has nothing to do with me. I take absolutely no credit for anything.


Well you have an absolute and profoundly misguided way of showing it....At least as far as this marathon debate with Funches is concerned.....



Well you have an absolute and profoundly misguided way of showing it.


And what credit might that be that I have taken. What great thing have I said specifically about me? Please show me.


I cannot pull a post and show you where it says "I Cowboy take full credit for these good works"...the reason I can't is because there is no such post...The reason you do and I know you do is exhibited in your arrogance, your attitude toward those you deem to be non believers.......


I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.

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Mon 01/30/12 11:43 AM



A story comes to mind that relates to this.

There was a storm one time, pooring rain. Started to flood, so people started going to higher grounds. The rain kept on coming down. Then people started to leave and one guy chose to stay. Everyone begged for him to come, but he just said "nah, God will save me". So the people left him. Then a boat came by and everyone told him to get in, he said "nah, God will save me". It kept raining so hard, and flooding so much this man had to get on top of the house. A helicopter came by, they told the man to get in. He said "nah, God will save me". Needless to say, this man drowned later on. When he got to the gates of Heaven, he asked God "Why didn't you save me in the flood?". God told him I sent you a boat and a helicopter that you declined to receive.

... It's something like that lol. But that's the jiff of it.


And most, if not all, of us have heard this in a hundred different variations, a hundred different time.....

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Mon 01/30/12 11:48 AM


I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....

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Mon 01/30/12 11:49 AM



I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".

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Mon 01/30/12 11:51 AM




I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


As in give the times these posts were posted. As you obviously know which posts are a "contradiction". Instead of rereading a page or so of posts, would you please enlighten us with which posts these are.

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Mon 01/30/12 11:51 AM


It passes the time and gives me something to do while I'm sitting here bored after work lol.


It also makes Christians look bad. Why don't you watch a movie or read a book instead of bickering with Funches, when he's only trying to get you worked up?


I would think that what makes Christians look bad is the fact that there are some many different denominations of Christians that they can no longer agree as to what Christianity is ...

also Christians are always beating up on Cowboy because they claim that his views of Christianity are wrong...but yet you can't find two Christians that agree to the same belief

but anyway I will remind you guys as to what Christianity is and sacrifice myself for Cowboy sins....so ok your Christians.....shall we once again meet with Pontious Pilate again

if not, then allow Cowboy to post what he want to post since that is what this forum is for and as long as what he post does not violate the rules set by the mingle2 moderator Gods...then why should it be any of your business

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Mon 01/30/12 11:53 AM




I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....

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Mon 01/30/12 11:57 AM





I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.

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Mon 01/30/12 11:58 AM






I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


You can not claim someone murdered someone and expect them to have to get evidence that they did not. You would have to first show some evidence of some sort of this action. You can't just make accusations at someone.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:01 PM



It passes the time and gives me something to do while I'm sitting here bored after work lol.


It also makes Christians look bad. Why don't you watch a movie or read a book instead of bickering with Funches, when he's only trying to get you worked up?


I would think that what makes Christians look bad is the fact that there are some many different denominations of Christians that they can no longer agree as to what Christianity is ...

also Christians are always beating up on Cowboy because they claim that his views of Christianity are wrong...but yet you can't find two Christians that agree to the same belief

but anyway I will remind you guys as to what Christianity is and sacrifice myself for Cowboy sins....so ok your Christians.....shall we once again meet with Pontious Pilate again

if not, then allow Cowboy to post what he want to post since that is what this forum is for and as long as what he post does not violate the rules set by the mingle2 moderator Gods...then why should it be any of your business


Christianity as a whole agree on what makes Christianity, Christianity.

Christianity - one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

How they interpret the different teachings is up to them. And is why we will be individually judged, not judged on weather one is a Christian or not, but on our actions that we took. Our actions are fueled by your beliefs, ragardless of what they are eg., baptists, pentacostal, catholic, ect.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:05 PM



Yeah, true. God willed her egg to be fertilized and it was. No need for sex, no need for semen. With God all things are possible.


God filling Mary up with his Holy Spirit is how God spread his sperm


No, there was no sperm involved. They did not have sex. Sperm is what God has given us for procreation. God doesn't have to use any sperm. He wills it and it's done.

God willed for Marry to be conceived with Jesus and it was done. No sperm, no sex, no foreplay, no dinner, just that simple, God willed it to be and it was done.


The Holy Ghost entering into Mary is an indication that God didn't "Will It"

this is what some denomiations of Christians claim that "The Holy Spirit" is not a God but an Angel...so that God will not be blame for having sex

and this is why The Trinity doesn't work because of the fact that The Holy Spirit is not credited with being The Father or Jesus

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Mon 01/30/12 12:09 PM






I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....

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Mon 01/30/12 12:10 PM

Christianity as a whole agree on what makes Christianity, Christianity.

Christianity - one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

How they interpret the different teachings is up to them. And is why we will be individually judged, not judged on weather one is a Christian or not, but on our actions that we took. Our actions are fueled by your beliefs, ragardless of what they are eg., baptists, pentacostal, catholic, ect.


some Christians claim that Jesus is God
some claim that Jesus is only the son
some claim that Jesus is only the Messiah and not the son
some claim that he was only a prophet

the fault lies on Jesus for taking in parables



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Mon 01/30/12 12:10 PM




Yeah, true. God willed her egg to be fertilized and it was. No need for sex, no need for semen. With God all things are possible.


God filling Mary up with his Holy Spirit is how God spread his sperm


No, there was no sperm involved. They did not have sex. Sperm is what God has given us for procreation. God doesn't have to use any sperm. He wills it and it's done.

God willed for Marry to be conceived with Jesus and it was done. No sperm, no sex, no foreplay, no dinner, just that simple, God willed it to be and it was done.


The Holy Ghost entering into Mary is an indication that God didn't "Will It"

this is what some denomiations of Christians claim that "The Holy Spirit" is not a God but an Angel...so that God will not be blame for having sex

and this is why The Trinity doesn't work because of the fact that The Holy Spirit is not credited with being The Father or Jesus


Incorrect, give one denomination that doesn't believe Jesus to be the son of God the father.

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:11 PM







I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....


No leg work for me, you're the one that made the accusation.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:13 PM








I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....


No leg work for me, you're the one that made the accusation.


It was not an accusation, it was a statement of fact...:tongue:

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Mon 01/30/12 12:15 PM


Christianity as a whole agree on what makes Christianity, Christianity.

Christianity - one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

How they interpret the different teachings is up to them. And is why we will be individually judged, not judged on weather one is a Christian or not, but on our actions that we took. Our actions are fueled by your beliefs, ragardless of what they are eg., baptists, pentacostal, catholic, ect.


some Christians claim that Jesus is God
some claim that Jesus is only the son
some claim that Jesus is only the Messiah and not the son
some claim that he was only a prophet

the fault lies on Jesus for taking in parables





All Christians believe Jesus to be God.

Do not tempt the Lord, thy God.

Luke 4:12
12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God

And Jesus being the Messiah, doesn't reduce him not to be the son. God the Father sent his only begotten son to be the messiah.

Prophet is one whom gives prophecies. Jesus is our Messiah, the Son of God, and gave prophecies eg., he was a prophet.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:15 PM





Yeah, true. God willed her egg to be fertilized and it was. No need for sex, no need for semen. With God all things are possible.


God filling Mary up with his Holy Spirit is how God spread his sperm


No, there was no sperm involved. They did not have sex. Sperm is what God has given us for procreation. God doesn't have to use any sperm. He wills it and it's done.

God willed for Marry to be conceived with Jesus and it was done. No sperm, no sex, no foreplay, no dinner, just that simple, God willed it to be and it was done.


The Holy Ghost entering into Mary is an indication that God didn't "Will It"

this is what some denomiations of Christians claim that "The Holy Spirit" is not a God but an Angel...so that God will not be blame for having sex

and this is why The Trinity doesn't work because of the fact that The Holy Spirit is not credited with being The Father or Jesus


Incorrect, give one denomination that doesn't believe Jesus to be the son of God the father.

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



Jesus isn't the begotton son of the father...he is the begotton son of the holy spirit ...begotton refers to a biological child and you keep insisting that God didn't have sex


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Mon 01/30/12 12:16 PM









I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....


No leg work for me, you're the one that made the accusation.


It was not an accusation, it was a statement of fact...:tongue:


It was an accusation until it is proven a fact. Just as in science, something is a theory until proven to be a fact.

:tongue:

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Mon 01/30/12 12:20 PM

All Christians believe Jesus to be God.


God would know the time of judgement day...Jesus claimed that he didn't know...which provides the simply logic why Jesus can't be God



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