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Topic: A very unfortunate matter concerning a Mingle2 moderator
Peccy's photo
Tue 05/15/12 10:53 AM
I absolutely know what prisoners do to the new fish in the tank, especially when they are child molesters put in the general pop. So unless he is put in solitary, something not so pleasant might happen.

I'm not sorry if this fact upsets some and you think he should be given another chance. From what I read, he was given another chance and he chose not to follow the rules again knowing the consequences.

I don't want him to be on the streets plotting his move against another helpless child. Would you feel like he deserved one more chance if your child was a victim?

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Tue 05/15/12 10:55 AM


We may never know exactly what drives people to become that way, but one possibility may be that they were abused as kids. Seeing as his brother is the same way, maybe it could be genetic???? Yes, it's still not an excuse for the things that they do to other people, but where is the justice in taking somebodies life over something that they may have no control over?

Well, the paralyzed guys may still have sexual desires, but if they can't act upon them, it's sorta a moot point. For instance, how many of us wouldn't have minded pushing somebody off of a tall building at one time or another, but we didn't. There's a BIG difference between having thoughts and acting upon them.
Amen Aaron!


shocked

msharmony's photo
Tue 05/15/12 10:55 AM

I absolutely know what prisoners do to the new fish in the tank, especially when they are child molesters put in the general pop. So unless he is put in solitary, something not so pleasant might happen.

I'm not sorry if this fact upsets some and you think he should be given another chance. From what I read, he was given another chance and he chose not to follow the rules again knowing the consequences.

I don't want him to be on the streets plotting his move against another helpless child. Would you feel like he deserved one more chance if your child was a victim?



I dont know, Id like to think once he served his time, I would.
My assailant served his time, and though I dont want him near me (fear of vengeful behavior) I dont begrudge him the opportunity to live the rest of his life with freedom to make better decisions.

newarkjw's photo
Tue 05/15/12 10:58 AM
I guess this explains why he refused to ever go to a bar. Clientele was just to old...........smokin

lilangel2's photo
Tue 05/15/12 10:59 AM
True, some here affected more, or in different ways than others here.

Some got more emotionally attached to the person they thought he was.

Some relate more to the victims because they,too, were raped as children and this is bringing forth some horrible memories! I know of at least two people on here that it is affecting HORRIBLY because they were victims!

I will not apologise for my feelings of hurt and sympathy going toward them and others victims like them. These scars don't go away for them.

SO, GLAD HE IS GONE!


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Tue 05/15/12 10:59 AM
IMO, Gearhead...the point is not quite so moot. By bringing up the paralyzed scenario, I was trying to "gently" explain that just because a man's genitalia doesn't function, that does not mean he cannot enjoy a fulfilling sex life...take my word for it...

What I was "gently" implying is that a sexual predator does not need a functioning pen!$ ( don't know if that word is still taboo here) in order to molest or torture a child...see my point? Neutering is not a viable option.

msharmony's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:02 AM

IMO, Gearhead...the point is not quite so moot. By bringing up the paralyzed scenario, I was trying to "gently" explain that just because a man's genitalia doesn't function, that does not mean he cannot enjoy a fulfilling sex life...take my word for it...

What I was "gently" implying is that a sexual predator does not need a functioning pen!$ ( don't know if that word is still taboo here) in order to molest or torture a child...see my point? Neutering is not a viable option.



if its an option to partner with other treatment, it is,,,

Peccy's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:03 AM


I absolutely know what prisoners do to the new fish in the tank, especially when they are child molesters put in the general pop. So unless he is put in solitary, something not so pleasant might happen.

I'm not sorry if this fact upsets some and you think he should be given another chance. From what I read, he was given another chance and he chose not to follow the rules again knowing the consequences.

I don't want him to be on the streets plotting his move against another helpless child. Would you feel like he deserved one more chance if your child was a victim?



I dont know, Id like to think once he served his time, I would.
My assailant served his time, and though I dont want him near me (fear of vengeful behavior) I dont begrudge him the opportunity to live the rest of his life with freedom to make better decisions.
How much "time" would a person need to serve to equate with ruining a child's life? We just see things differently, you through rose colored glasses with frosting, me through glasses tinted with the cruel reality this world has to offer. We'll just agree to disagree.

msharmony's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:05 AM



I absolutely know what prisoners do to the new fish in the tank, especially when they are child molesters put in the general pop. So unless he is put in solitary, something not so pleasant might happen.

I'm not sorry if this fact upsets some and you think he should be given another chance. From what I read, he was given another chance and he chose not to follow the rules again knowing the consequences.

I don't want him to be on the streets plotting his move against another helpless child. Would you feel like he deserved one more chance if your child was a victim?



I dont know, Id like to think once he served his time, I would.
My assailant served his time, and though I dont want him near me (fear of vengeful behavior) I dont begrudge him the opportunity to live the rest of his life with freedom to make better decisions.
How much "time" would a person need to serve to equate with ruining a child's life? We just see things differently, you through rose colored glasses with frosting, me through glasses tinted with the cruel reality this world has to offer. We'll just agree to disagree.


agreed

my life was not ruined, and that was a choice too
not to take away from those who never recover at all,, Im just explaining why, for me, I would want them to serve their time and then be able to start over and carry on with their life,,,

lilangel2's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:06 AM
Part of his time was to stay registered as a SEX OFFENDER so the public is protected!

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Tue 05/15/12 11:09 AM

We may never know exactly what drives people to become that way, but one possibility may be that they were abused as kids. Seeing as his brother is the same way, maybe it could be genetic???? Yes, it's still not an excuse for the things that they do to other people, but where is the justice in taking somebodies life over something that they may have no control over?

Well, the paralyzed guys may still have sexual desires, but if they can't act upon them, it's sorta a moot point. For instance, how many of us wouldn't have minded pushing somebody off of a tall building at one time or another, but we didn't. There's a BIG difference between having thoughts and acting upon them.


You don't have to be erect to perform sex acts on another person. You also don't have to be erect to have sex acts performed on you. As long as the desire exists, the pedophile is a danger to children.

I don't doubt that something beyond his control turned him into a pedophile, I don't blame him for what he is, I blame him for acting on it.

I don't favor the death penalty for anyone, my post clearly stated that the offender would have the choice of life in prison or death. And I don't even favor putting pedophiles into a prison with other offenders. Put them together in an inaccessible prison, in Alaska or a desert or an island. Give them a lot of freedom and treat them like humans, but lock them up for good. If they don't want to be in prison, they should have the option for the death penalty. If they try to escape, punish them harshly. If they actually manage to escape, execution.

If it is true that victims of pedophilia sometimes become pedophiles, then it weighs upon us to keep children safe from these monsters.

I just stumbled onto a pedophilia forum, where they are complaining that the world is insane and that their love for children is pure. THINK ABOUT THAT! Those who oppose raping children, are the villains in their minds, not them! Why should they stop, if they feel that what they are doing is normal and natural?

lilangel2's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:13 AM
To the pediphile it is a sexual preference, self centered, entitlement of onesided sick pleasure!!!

To the victim it is a moment of terror, pain, shame, confusion, mistrust, emotional trauma that will last them and torment them a lifetime.

I side with the victim:cry:

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Tue 05/15/12 11:17 AM

To the pediphile it is a sexual preference, self centered, entitlement of onesided sick pleasure!!!

To the victim it is a moment of terror, pain, shame, confusion, mistrust, emotional trauma that will last them and torment them a lifetime.

I side with the victim:cry:


Exactly.

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Tue 05/15/12 11:23 AM
Yes, Spider...I believe you are referring to N. A. M. B. L. A...or something like that?

I'd also like to reiterate a point that was brought up earlier...the fact that so many are in shock & disbelief. We have all been warned about internet predators...it would be bad enough if it was just an average member. But Keith was in a position of pseudo authority as a Mod & I think that's what makes this so shocking. This has been a reminder & learning experience for us all & I'm glad that Admin will be now doing background checks on all Mods...it just kinda sucks that the barn door was closed after the horse got out. Just another reminder that we are all responsible for our actions here & to use the net cautiously...Admin cannot be our babysitter...

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Tue 05/15/12 11:28 AM

To the pediphile it is a sexual preference, self centered, entitlement of onesided sick pleasure!!!

To the victim it is a moment of terror, pain, shame, confusion, mistrust, emotional trauma that will last them and torment them a lifetime.

I side with the victim:cry:



Sadly in a world slowly going mad, it seems more and more people are forgetting the victims of the heinous acts and turning the guilty into the persecuted and in some cases even into martyrs.

I did not know the guy and don't care about the details in this case as they are too disturbing to follow. He is a disgusting monster as far as I am concerned and the world would be better off without him.

ujGearhead's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:32 AM

IMO, Gearhead...the point is not quite so moot. By bringing up the paralyzed scenario, I was trying to "gently" explain that just because a man's genitalia doesn't function, that does not mean he cannot enjoy a fulfilling sex life...take my word for it...

What I was "gently" implying is that a sexual predator does not need a functioning pen!$ ( don't know if that word is still taboo here) in order to molest or torture a child...see my point? Neutering is not a viable option.


How fulfilling of a sex life could the guys have with a limp noodle? Unless maybe if you brought duct tape and popsicle sticks into the scenario..... That's still apples and bananas though. Being able to raise the pole doesn't necessarily mean that you'll do anything with it if you have no flag to put on it. In fact, several states allow sex offenders to be castrated in lieu of jail time because of the drop in testosterone (and hopefully sex drive). This isn't a cure-all, but in some cases I certainly think it's a better solution than the alternatives.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:33 AM
Pedophilia itself is disturbing enough...
add into the mix the interest in torture, murder, babies.

I believe if a pedophile is aware and remorse he,she can learn to
at least have self control, even if the desire never goes away.
As mentioned here, the thought is one thing, acting out is another.

There were "tens of thousands" of images in the apartment he and his brother shared. All over the place including "the kitchen cabinets." The nature of many was way beyond kiddie porn.

I don't believe there was ever a girlfriend. I think this perversion is so extreme that it would be impossible to have any 'normal' kind of relationship, with anyone, ever.

Something terrible must have happened to Keith and Kevin when they were boys, beyond molestation. Sometimes some are beyond help.
I agree with spider...forever locked up or death, they choose.
Those who are aware and remorseful would probably choose death, they must loathe themselves...deep down they know it's wrong to hurt these children because it was done to them.

vivian2981's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:44 AM
I agree with spider...forever locked up or death, they choose.

Did the children get to choose?

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:48 AM

I agree with spider...forever locked up or death, they choose.

Did the children get to choose?


The question is too silly to respond to.
Then just kill em all, I really don't give a $hit.


pennyg281's photo
Tue 05/15/12 11:49 AM
Wow. . .crazy stuff. I occasionally talked to "Lex" in the forums. Scary thought . .that although he said he distant a woman with kids. . . he also commented several times that most of his "online friends" were single moms with kids. I pray no other innocent kids were harmed. Mingle Management . . .excellent job dealingwith this.

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