Topic: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
msharmony's photo
Sun 09/02/12 02:47 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 09/02/12 02:49 PM

I think we can be "introduced" to prejudice in many different ways. (And from many different groups and organizations etc.)...My parents decided to send me to an "elite" private Catholic girl's high school. (In the hope that I would receive a "top-notch" education at this "academy!")...Some of the nuns at this school (and the dean) encouraged us to view ourselves as the "cream of the crop." And far superior to girls who attended other Catholic high schools or (heaven forbid) public school...There was definitely a "snob factor" at the school that really "bugged me."...My parents were "down-home people" who didn't believe in putting on "airs." So I ran into a big culture-clash...Eventually I left the school to get away from all the "snobbery." I didn't want to get "tainted" or brainwashed...But a lot of my classmates at the school really seemed to enjoy feeling "special" and "superior."



being a parent aint easy,,lol

its not terrible to teach kids to be their BEST and to believe in their best being phenomenal so they might too

but its difficult to find common ground with those who take that faith in themself over a line into lack of faith in others,,,


my folks sent my brother to an academy, but they enforced in us that our 'opportunities' were because of THEIR CHOICES and THEIR HARD W?OR, and not something that made us better or worse than anyone else

we learned to appreciate the opportunity BECAUSE not everyone had it, instead of looking down on others who (for whatever reason) didnt get the opportunities we had,,

mightymoe's photo
Sun 09/02/12 02:51 PM
so what does racism have to do with the dems calling the repubs stupid? dems like to holler racism at every turn, even when the shoe doesn't fit. The tea party is a little racist, but the republicans are not really, as a whole. The dems put that spin on it because they are lazy, and do not want to work for a living, and would rather have people as slaves of the government by extending benefits and handing out food stamps like crazy. why would anyone want to work for less than the government gives them? The republicans want to put people back to work, but the dems would rather give the lazy people everything for free...

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/02/12 02:56 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 09/02/12 02:58 PM

so what does racism have to do with the dems calling the repubs stupid? dems like to holler racism at every turn, even when the shoe doesn't fit. The tea party is a little racist, but the republicans are not really, as a whole. The dems put that spin on it because they are lazy, and do not want to work for a living, and would rather have people as slaves of the government by extending benefits and handing out food stamps like crazy. why would anyone want to work for less than the government gives them? The republicans want to put people back to work, but the dems would rather give the lazy people everything for free...


hmm

so what have been the 'repubs' job creating ideas?

and how do you define free or lazy?

work for welfare mandates people work,,,so why is that getting something for 'free'


there are people in each party who are racist, just like there are people in all income brackes who commit crime

yet, certain ....Variables, ,,,make it easier and more acceptable sometimes for certain crimes to be committed or for certan people to be racist


'repubs' dont have a recent history of aknowledging or showing concern for racial disparities,, so they have a more FERTILE ground for racism charges


TJN's photo
Sun 09/02/12 04:22 PM
Edited by TJN on Sun 09/02/12 04:23 PM



Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,

You have got to be F***ING kidding me!!
So all who served are racist?
I'd like to see some proof of that.
I don't recall going through rehab for racism. Or does that mean I'm a full blown racist and not a "recovering" racist.
Guess I need to go to be VA and get some counseling.

That has to be the most ignorant coment I have ever seen.

GreenEyes48's photo
Sun 09/02/12 04:52 PM




Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,

You have got to be F***ING kidding me!!
So all who served are racist?
I'd like to see some proof of that.
I don't recall going through rehab for racism. Or does that mean I'm a full blown racist and not a "recovering" racist.
Guess I need to go to be VA and get some counseling.

That has to be the most ignorant coment I have ever seen.
My husband was in the Air Force for many years. (He went in at 17.) And he used to say that he never encountered prejudice until he joined the military too.

GreenEyes48's photo
Sun 09/02/12 05:01 PM


I think we can be "introduced" to prejudice in many different ways. (And from many different groups and organizations etc.)...My parents decided to send me to an "elite" private Catholic girl's high school. (In the hope that I would receive a "top-notch" education at this "academy!")...Some of the nuns at this school (and the dean) encouraged us to view ourselves as the "cream of the crop." And far superior to girls who attended other Catholic high schools or (heaven forbid) public school...There was definitely a "snob factor" at the school that really "bugged me."...My parents were "down-home people" who didn't believe in putting on "airs." So I ran into a big culture-clash...Eventually I left the school to get away from all the "snobbery." I didn't want to get "tainted" or brainwashed...But a lot of my classmates at the school really seemed to enjoy feeling "special" and "superior."



being a parent aint easy,,lol

its not terrible to teach kids to be their BEST and to believe in their best being phenomenal so they might too

but its difficult to find common ground with those who take that faith in themself over a line into lack of faith in others,,,


my folks sent my brother to an academy, but they enforced in us that our 'opportunities' were because of THEIR CHOICES and THEIR HARD W?OR, and not something that made us better or worse than anyone else

we learned to appreciate the opportunity BECAUSE not everyone had it, instead of looking down on others who (for whatever reason) didnt get the opportunities we had,,
Good that your parents had discussion with you and your brother about not "looking down" on others.

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 09/02/12 05:35 PM




Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,

You have got to be F***ING kidding me!!
So all who served are racist?
I'd like to see some proof of that.
I don't recall going through rehab for racism. Or does that mean I'm a full blown racist and not a "recovering" racist.
Guess I need to go to be VA and get some counseling.

That has to be the most ignorant coment I have ever seen.


Everybody's experience is different.

mightymoe's photo
Sun 09/02/12 05:37 PM


so what does racism have to do with the dems calling the repubs stupid? dems like to holler racism at every turn, even when the shoe doesn't fit. The tea party is a little racist, but the republicans are not really, as a whole. The dems put that spin on it because they are lazy, and do not want to work for a living, and would rather have people as slaves of the government by extending benefits and handing out food stamps like crazy. why would anyone want to work for less than the government gives them? The republicans want to put people back to work, but the dems would rather give the lazy people everything for free...


hmm

so what have been the 'repubs' job creating ideas?

and how do you define free or lazy?

work for welfare mandates people work,,,so why is that getting something for 'free'


there are people in each party who are racist, just like there are people in all income brackes who commit crime

yet, certain ....Variables, ,,,make it easier and more acceptable sometimes for certain crimes to be committed or for certan people to be racist


'repubs' dont have a recent history of aknowledging or showing concern for racial disparities,, so they have a more FERTILE ground for racism charges




racial disparities? just a load of made up bunk... so tell me, in this day and age, what are the racial disparities?

no photo
Sun 09/02/12 11:34 PM



Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,


You're saying that everyone in the military is racist?

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 01:51 AM




Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,

You have got to be F***ING kidding me!!
So all who served are racist?
I'd like to see some proof of that.
I don't recall going through rehab for racism. Or does that mean I'm a full blown racist and not a "recovering" racist.
Guess I need to go to be VA and get some counseling.

That has to be the most ignorant coment I have ever seen.




its not isolated to the service, its in ALL elements of our american culture

all growing up in America (with maybe the exception of rural folks with little access to media) are growing up with RACIST and STEREOTYPICAL foundations,,,,,


the military is particularly susceptible because of the ranking system and the life/death circumstances

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 01:53 AM




Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,


You're saying that everyone in the military is racist?



the great majority of AMERICANS are racist (subtle and overt) unless they came up with little access to media or public education

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 01:53 AM



so what does racism have to do with the dems calling the repubs stupid? dems like to holler racism at every turn, even when the shoe doesn't fit. The tea party is a little racist, but the republicans are not really, as a whole. The dems put that spin on it because they are lazy, and do not want to work for a living, and would rather have people as slaves of the government by extending benefits and handing out food stamps like crazy. why would anyone want to work for less than the government gives them? The republicans want to put people back to work, but the dems would rather give the lazy people everything for free...


hmm

so what have been the 'repubs' job creating ideas?

and how do you define free or lazy?

work for welfare mandates people work,,,so why is that getting something for 'free'


there are people in each party who are racist, just like there are people in all income brackes who commit crime

yet, certain ....Variables, ,,,make it easier and more acceptable sometimes for certain crimes to be committed or for certan people to be racist


'repubs' dont have a recent history of aknowledging or showing concern for racial disparities,, so they have a more FERTILE ground for racism charges




racial disparities? just a load of made up bunk... so tell me, in this day and age, what are the racial disparities?


pointing them out would be futile because Im sure it would be argued that the issue wasnt really race,,,,



oldhippie1952's photo
Mon 09/03/12 02:18 AM





Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,


You're saying that everyone in the military is racist?



the great majority of AMERICANS are racist (subtle and overt) unless they came up with little access to media or public education


Sometimes they don't know they are racist until they integrate and it brings it out. Then they have to, or should, rehab and review to give everyone a fair shake.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 02:21 AM






Msharmony,

The military helped make me racist and it has taken a long time to recover as you say.

But that was late 60s and early 70s, methinks they are better integrated now...


If the military made you racist, how did many others get through being in the military without being racist?



they didnt, although they may have learned to fight against it so that they became 'recovering' racists,,,


some racism is just much more subtle and less 'hateful' than other racism,,,


You're saying that everyone in the military is racist?



the great majority of AMERICANS are racist (subtle and overt) unless they came up with little access to media or public education


Sometimes they don't know they are racist until they integrate and it brings it out. Then they have to, or should, rehab and review to give everyone a fair shake.



lol,,,,exactly,,,KEWL!

its so rare anyone quite 'gets' my perspective during discussions here about race or racism,,,,

josie68's photo
Mon 09/03/12 05:28 AM

IQ doesn't mean anything. This is a BS article written by one who clearly has issues.


Nah , he just had a low IQ:wink:

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 07:46 AM


IQ doesn't mean anything. This is a BS article written by one who clearly has issues.


Nah , he just had a low IQ:wink:




laugh laugh

TJN's photo
Mon 09/03/12 08:12 AM



the military is particularly susceptible because of the ranking system and the life/death circumstances


Again I call BS on this!!
If your going to call soldiers racist I would appreciate some proof.

I would also like to know how the ranking system and life and death circumstances make them more susceptible to racism? Please enlighten me.
When you make a BS claim please have some facts to back your claim.

Through my experience the ranking system and life/death circumstances brought us closer together.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 08:24 AM




the military is particularly susceptible because of the ranking system and the life/death circumstances


Again I call BS on this!!
If your going to call soldiers racist I would appreciate some proof.

I would also like to know how the ranking system and life and death circumstances make them more susceptible to racism? Please enlighten me.
When you make a BS claim please have some facts to back your claim.

Through my experience the ranking system and life/death circumstances brought us closer together.



I didnt call soldiers racist at all

re READ

ALL americans raised in american culture are racist on some level, UNLESS raised in a rural area away from public education and media


the MILITARY, much like any position that allows people the right to take lives or save lives , has a FERTILE ground for creating people with GOD COMPLEX


such people, if they have already been in the american culture of media and public education, stack on top of pre existing prejudices(stereotypes) a sense of DUTY to take down their 'enemy'

US v THEM is a prime philosophy upon which our military (or any field that is in the HERO business) functions to convince our soldiers to kill their soldiers


there are of course also the soldiers who will bond closer IN SPITE of race due to their closeness in BATTLE

those who are not in BATTLE, are under high pressure when it comes to making rank and its easy for the mind to revert back to us v them mentality when in such close competition with others,,,


TJN's photo
Mon 09/03/12 08:34 AM





the military is particularly susceptible because of the ranking system and the life/death circumstances


Again I call BS on this!!
If your going to call soldiers racist I would appreciate some proof.

I would also like to know how the ranking system and life and death circumstances make them more susceptible to racism? Please enlighten me.
When you make a BS claim please have some facts to back your claim.

Through my experience the ranking system and life/death circumstances brought us closer together.



I didnt call soldiers racist at all

re READ

ALL americans raised in american culture are racist on some level, UNLESS raised in a rural area away from public education and media


the MILITARY, much like any position that allows people the right to take lives or save lives , has a FERTILE ground for creating people with GOD COMPLEX


such people, if they have already been in the american culture of media and public education, stack on top of pre existing prejudices(stereotypes) a sense of DUTY to take down their 'enemy'

US v THEM is a prime philosophy upon which our military (or any field that is in the HERO business) functions to convince our soldiers to kill their soldiers


there are of course also the soldiers who will bond closer IN SPITE of race due to their closeness in BATTLE

those who are not in BATTLE, are under high pressure when it comes to making rank and its easy for the mind to revert back to us v them mentality when in such close competition with others,,,



Your statement is SO FULL OF SIHT and disrespectfull.
It's beliefs like yours that make the transition from soldier to civilian so difficult for soldiers.
Again I ask for some facts to back your opinion please.
And I also ask you to refrain from disrespecting soldiers.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 08:36 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/03/12 08:37 AM






the military is particularly susceptible because of the ranking system and the life/death circumstances


Again I call BS on this!!
If your going to call soldiers racist I would appreciate some proof.

I would also like to know how the ranking system and life and death circumstances make them more susceptible to racism? Please enlighten me.
When you make a BS claim please have some facts to back your claim.

Through my experience the ranking system and life/death circumstances brought us closer together.



I didnt call soldiers racist at all

re READ

ALL americans raised in american culture are racist on some level, UNLESS raised in a rural area away from public education and media


the MILITARY, much like any position that allows people the right to take lives or save lives , has a FERTILE ground for creating people with GOD COMPLEX


such people, if they have already been in the american culture of media and public education, stack on top of pre existing prejudices(stereotypes) a sense of DUTY to take down their 'enemy'

US v THEM is a prime philosophy upon which our military (or any field that is in the HERO business) functions to convince our soldiers to kill their soldiers


there are of course also the soldiers who will bond closer IN SPITE of race due to their closeness in BATTLE

those who are not in BATTLE, are under high pressure when it comes to making rank and its easy for the mind to revert back to us v them mentality when in such close competition with others,,,



Your statement is SO FULL OF SIHT and disrespectfull.
It's beliefs like yours that make the transition from soldier to civilian so difficult for soldiers.
Again I ask for some facts to back your opinion please.
And I also ask you to refrain from disrespecting soldiers.



I HAve loved ones risking their life for AMerica DAILY

dont assume things

I have not 'disrespected' soldiers
I have only stated a reality they face, because they are American

and AMERICAN media and public education BREEDS Racism on different levels

and the US MILITARY INSTITUTION


where some lives are more expendable than others
and its 'us' vs 'them

is not immune from that same breeding