Am I in a socially conscious thread, or in a kink thread?

Anyhow... criminal behaviour linked to chain gangs.

That's right. The biggest bigotry is the disdain the high IQ people feel against their low counterparts, and the fist-forming hatred the low IQ people feel against their high-horse counterparts.

All other bigotry (racism, pc, redneckism, social liberalism, etc.) are mere reflections and variations on the form of ideolgical hatred between the two groups.

You are the one making the assumption of racism in the military!
I am still waiti g for your facts to prove it on the level you are assuming it.
Do you understand the rank structure in the military?

Do you understand how promotions are givin in the military?

very perceptive p o v



I think we all grow up with,,,certain programming if you wil

that teaches us to 'rank' people,

based on income level, or race, or gender, or occupation,,etc,,,

rather than see each as individually valuable in different ways,,,


that sets the breeding ground I speak of when it comes to RACISM,(or sexism) when our public education and media are bombarded with imagery that we most easily associate with race or gender,,,,(Visually speaking)

Nobody is making the claim that all soldiers are racist..And most probably aren't! But every organization has issues and problems that need to be brought out in the open and addressed and resolved at times...One person's experience may be different than what someone else "saw" or experienced within the same organization...When my husband was in boot camp he said a lot of guys "picked on" a guy who probably had OCD. (Obsessive Compulive Disorder.) And the bullying got pretty bad at times. Sad!...No organization is totally "perfect" at all times. Human "factors" come into play. But no one is trying to demean the entire military or all soldiers in general.

good, because to me, it's a thing people use to get their way, when everything else fails...

They would like you to believe that.

yes, Im sure racism is just a figment of peoples imagination that they use (quite unsuccessfully apparently) to 'get their way'

Nice. Now you're calling most Americans racist along with all of the military.

It's pretty clear to a lot of people.

But, since we're talking about prejudice here, judging from these forums, more conservatives are racist or bigots than liberals are.

really? why is it if someone didn't like obama's policies, or just didn't like him for any reason, they were automatically labeled a racist? i heard no one calling him any names, but were still declared a racist? why is it if a black person and a white person are both applying for a job, the person making the decision has to worry about being a racist if they hire who they thought was best?
i've said it before, and i'll say it again, it's the "crying wolf" syndrome, and me being white in America, i see very little, if any, racism you seem to think is so rampant here..

I can't speak for others, but I wouldn't call someone a racist simply for not liking Obama. People are often called racist for saying racist things, though. Then they get upset at being called out on those racist comments. Same with bigots.

sure am,, and unfortunately many americans cant have this discussion without immediately shutting themself down with defense mechanisms

ask the people who called those people racist....


I consider racism when I perceive a PERSONAL Hatred of a person that doesnt seem to be attributable to any other difference but RACE (ie, other people with said problem, issue, were still not HATED by the speaker)


racism doesnt require blatantly 'calling names'

employers dont have to worry about being racist if they have no HISTORY of racial discrimination


and you being white would be precisely the reason it would be harder for you to 'see' racism against other groups


other groups can see it quite clearly,,,,

Well, you're pretty much calling everyone racist without backing it up with specifics.

its hard to be 'specific' about racism

the mind categorizes things through our sensory perception

touch, sound, sight, smell, and taste

when we touch something unpleasant, like a tack for instance,
our mind takes in the SENSORY IMAGE And makes a future correlation between that IMAGE And that FEELING


likewise, with what we read and SEE in public education and media, our minds AUTOMATICALLY make a correlation

so if we see alot of males being violent, we will associate violence more quickly with males than with females

if we see alot of women being caretakers, we will associate nurturing with women more quickly than with men,,,


....and following suit


when we see blacks primarily entertaining(music, sports) and committing crime,, we will associate entertainment and crime with black people more quickly then with other races

(ever heard the phrases 'talk like a black person/white person' or 'soulful/fly for a white guy'?


these are forms of SUBTLE racism, they arent HATEFUL at all, but they are there in our minds to attribute a skill or characteristic almost automatically with race


we have to work to UNLEARN what it is natural for the mind to do as a result of our CULTURE and our MEDIA and our EDUCATION

if you grow up in america , with media and public education, you have these intrinsic and AUTOMATIC associations imprinted in your mind from a young age,, at least until one becomes self aware enough to notice and actively work at counteracting that imprinting,,,

with experience, exposure, and logic,,,

so if a black person doesn't treat you right, you think it's racism?
people of all colors, including whites, have treated me with disrespect, so i should think they are all racists? and me being white, i have an inherent ability to not see prejudice? i think the difference is that you look and want it to be prejudice, when in fact, they just may not like something about you besides you skin color, like your shoes or the way your hair is. sometimes you and others read to much into things, and thinking everyone is prejudice for any little reason is not healthy. sometimes, more often than not, people do not want to get along with each other, and not because of the color of their skin....

So, since it's hard for you to be specific, you'll just label everyone as a racist to make it easier, huh?

see, thats my whole point... your saying everyone is prejudice but you... and how healthy is that? the first thing any therapist will tell you if you think the world around you is the problem, then the problem is with you, not the world...

it all depends upon the person

if a person, whatever their color may be, seems to have a double standard between individuals with no distinguishable difference other than RACE

I will figure it is race based bias, or RACISM,,yes

and black people can be racist against blacks so I have known some people like what you have inquired about


you being white would have less of a tendency to recognize racism against BLACKS

you would be more likely, as a white person, to be able to recognize racism against WHITES

but systemically, there is no evidence of any such animal, although INDIVIDUALLY it exists across racial lines,,,