Topic: Who's behind the Boston Marathon bombings? 4 theories.
motowndowntown's photo
Wed 04/17/13 04:25 PM

if you look at the mailbox again, the metal fence is wrapped around it, meaning the bomb went off behind the metal fence, not in front of it...


The fence could have been bent by people in the crowd getting the H out of there. It does seem odd though that the mailbox wasn't damaged more. Like blown off it's mountings or something.

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 04/17/13 04:26 PM
Looks like it is going to be theory #4 guys and gals.

willing2's photo
Wed 04/17/13 05:32 PM
Stolen from somewhere else.

'The life of US citizen value more than the life of those Pakistan children in Peshawar.

Nato air attacks killed 10 children in Afghanistan last week. I only saw the news twice, while 3 people died in Boston bombing and the story is still continue."sigh"


InvictusV's photo
Thu 04/18/13 06:54 AM






How do trained professionals that are assigned to secure these types of events miss something like this?

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/10010384080855/exclusive-fbi-investigating-photo-that-shows-bag/
by probably ASSuming the Bag belonging to some of the Spectators,with terrifying consequences!
Another Question,how long the Time-Interval between the two Pictures!


a bomb that close to the mailbox and no damage to it?


I didn't say it was the bomb.

A huge bag like that sitting on the street side of the fence looks very out of place.

It is an example of the lax security and is one of the reasons this happened.


metalwing's photo
Thu 04/18/13 07:23 AM







How do trained professionals that are assigned to secure these types of events miss something like this?

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/10010384080855/exclusive-fbi-investigating-photo-that-shows-bag/
by probably ASSuming the Bag belonging to some of the Spectators,with terrifying consequences!
Another Question,how long the Time-Interval between the two Pictures!


a bomb that close to the mailbox and no damage to it?


I didn't say it was the bomb.

A huge bag like that sitting on the street side of the fence looks very out of place.

It is an example of the lax security and is one of the reasons this happened.




On the one hand that is certainly true, but the commentators of the race talked about the tradition of the runners leaving a bag on the curb just like that containing their personal items, a change of clothes, drinks, etc. The perpetrators apparently knew this fact and made use of it in the planning of the attack. It looks like a case of lateral thinking and Al Qaeda seems to be getting better at it all the time.

A general analysis of the terrorist attacks against the US would indicate a focus on maximum damage to an unprotected populace. The US then spends many billions to beef up airport security (for example) while the terrorist focus on a completely different area. Eventually all resources are diverted to defense bankrupting the nation.

There appears to be a successful ongoing fifth column mentality at work where the terrorist embed multiple college students in areas to learn weaknesses and recruit new followers. As weak areas such as the marathon are identified, plans for maximum public effect are generated and executed. We will probably never know how many of these plans have been thwarted by the FBI who obviously pretend to want to join any dissident groups they can find. Events of this type; subways, crowds, etcs, are ongoing around the world.

If this tragedy turns out to be non-muslim connected, I will be surprised. But if so, they learned from the masters of terrorism.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/18/13 07:30 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 04/18/13 07:31 AM







How do trained professionals that are assigned to secure these types of events miss something like this?

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/10010384080855/exclusive-fbi-investigating-photo-that-shows-bag/
by probably ASSuming the Bag belonging to some of the Spectators,with terrifying consequences!
Another Question,how long the Time-Interval between the two Pictures!


a bomb that close to the mailbox and no damage to it?


I didn't say it was the bomb.

A huge bag like that sitting on the street side of the fence looks very out of place.

It is an example of the lax security and is one of the reasons this happened.


you know,for a Bomb it shows very little Damage!
Just another example of MSM making up "News" if there aren't any!

smart2009's photo
Thu 04/18/13 08:24 AM
Edited by smart2009 on Thu 04/18/13 08:45 AM
4 UK men jailed for toy-car terror plot.http://news.yahoo.com/4-uk-men-jailed-toy-car-terror-plot-121629664.html
The terror plot involved targeting British reserve troops using a toy-car packed with explosives.
Prosecutors said the men gained inspiration from the 2010 first issue of "Inspire," an online English-language magazine from Yemen's al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and linked to the U.S.-born militant cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. The militant leader was killed in 2011 in a drone strike.

The same online magazine gave instructions on how to build a "pressure cooker" bomb — the same type of explosive device that was used in Monday's attack at the Boston Marathon when three people were killed and more than 100 were wounded.
American Jihadist Terrorism?

Traumer's photo
Thu 04/18/13 01:34 PM

4 UK men jailed for toy-car terror plot.http://news.yahoo.com/4-uk-men-jailed-toy-car-terror-plot-121629664.html
The terror plot involved targeting British reserve troops using a toy-car packed with explosives.
Prosecutors said the men gained inspiration from the 2010 first issue of "Inspire," an online English-language magazine from Yemen's al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and linked to the U.S.-born militant cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. The militant leader was killed in 2011 in a drone strike.

The same online magazine gave instructions on how to build a "pressure cooker" bomb — the same type of explosive device that was used in Monday's attack at the Boston Marathon when three people were killed and more than 100 were wounded.
American Jihadist Terrorism?



It is very obvious that not many here have actually read, written or even published any book or manual on improvised weapons and explosives some of which show various types of bombs meant for streets, buildings, underpasses, etc.. Some are the 'pressure cooker' types; others are packed in what used to be 'croc pots of different sizes.
Paladin Press was one of the best publishers on all sorts of improvised weapons and bombs from the early 70's; so was some book called, "the poor man's James Bond"...The Mercenary's Manuel was another as were some others by the PLO, and Black Panther manuals which also gave specifics on how to lure 'pigs' into ambushes in a city; how to make napalm etc. for fire bombs...all published long before anything like the Taliban was even dreamed of. Even the old group of so called 'super-patriots in the US, 'the Minute Men' had distributed small manuals of home-made bombs. I was surprised that the John Birch Society didn't jump on that bandwagon; 'bomb-wagon'; as so many other groups and individuals did. No one ethnic or racial group has a copywrite on improvised weapon manuals . Some were even printed by the Govt. and sold out of army-navy surplus stores a few years before the Vietnam War was over. Everybody wanted their own bombs just like many just want their own guns, RPG's, claymores; tanks, flame-throwers, etc. etc. What spirit!:laughing:

no photo
Thu 04/18/13 02:09 PM
The Boston blasts were the work of amateurs.

meanwhile in Texas;

As many as 60 to 70 people may have been killed in a fertilizer plant explosion on Wednesday night in West, Texas, KWTX reported. West EMS Director Dr. George Smith told the TV station that hundreds of people were also injured in the blast.

Tommy Muska, West's mayor, said at a news conference that the exact number of deaths was still unknown. However, buildings in a five-block radius from the plant were severely damaged by the explosion, Muska said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/texas-explosion-west-fertilizer-plant_n_3105341.html


Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/18/13 02:50 PM

The Boston blasts were the work of amateurs.

meanwhile in Texas;

As many as 60 to 70 people may have been killed in a fertilizer plant explosion on Wednesday night in West, Texas, KWTX reported. West EMS Director Dr. George Smith told the TV station that hundreds of people were also injured in the blast.

Tommy Muska, West's mayor, said at a news conference that the exact number of deaths was still unknown. However, buildings in a five-block radius from the plant were severely damaged by the explosion, Muska said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/texas-explosion-west-fertilizer-plant_n_3105341.html


Amateurs,hmm?

metalwing's photo
Fri 04/19/13 02:06 AM
Edited by metalwing on Fri 04/19/13 02:15 AM
I have been watching the attempt to capture the two suspects in Boston which has been going on most of the night. One suspect was shot and killed. They threw grenades at police and one escaped. There are hundreds of police everywhere so it is hard to imagine how the second guy got away, but it happened. He is on the run wearing a black tee shirt.

They shot and killed a MIT campus cop and took his gun. They carjacked a SUV and went on a chase throwing explosives out of the car.

One guy (looked middle eastern) was described as "a terrorist here to kill people.".

Some other guy was arrested but no one knows why. It might be a roommate. It all happened near the MIT campus.

What wasn't discussed on the news was that three bombs were set so there were at least three bombers involved.

Ras427's photo
Fri 04/19/13 07:13 AM
So much for profiling.

InvictusV's photo
Fri 04/19/13 08:12 AM

So much for profiling.


why is that? they are muslim..


msharmony's photo
Fri 04/19/13 08:45 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 04/19/13 08:46 AM


So much for profiling.


why is that? they are muslim..





no way to profile muslim, they are in all colors and creeds, these young men were Russian,,,


and Ive read no information of what their religion is,,,

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/19/13 08:48 AM
personally, i see nothing wrong with profiling on a case like this... start at the main sources first, muslim or radical homegrown terrorists. they would be the starting point, then move on from there after you weed those out.

InvictusV's photo
Fri 04/19/13 08:56 AM



So much for profiling.


why is that? they are muslim..





no way to profile muslim, they are in all colors and creeds, these young men were Russian,,,


and Ive read no information of what their religion is,,,


http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/19/dead-boston-bombing-suspect-was-a-very-religious-muslim-boxer/

The brothers’ alleged motive in Monday’s bombings remains unclear, but in the last several months, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had posted videos to YouTube indicating his interest in radical Muslim ideologies.

The family appears to be originally from the southern Russian republic of Chechnya, and two law enforcement officials said there is a “Chechen connection” to the bombings.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/details-emerge-on-suspected-boston-bombers/2013/04/19/ef2c2566-a8e4-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_story.html

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/19/13 09:06 AM
I think I read that much, thanx Invictus

I just am waiting to hear the whole story, Im not sure being interested in is the same as actually being a muslim,,,,anymore than my interest in NOI or palestine makes me a muslim or palestinian

its interesting to note as well that the one who went out in a blaze was the older brother , and also the one reported to have the abovementioned social media

the younger one is only 19, may have just been following his brother as so many younger siblings do,,,

anyway, its all tragic, I hope it doesnt resort in further profiling of muslims or russians, and my heart goes out to all the families involved , victims and suspects,,,

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/19/13 09:18 AM

I think I read that much, thanx Invictus

I just am waiting to hear the whole story, Im not sure being interested in is the same as actually being a muslim,,,,anymore than my interest in NOI or palestine makes me a muslim or palestinian

its interesting to note as well that the one who went out in a blaze was the older brother , and also the one reported to have the abovementioned social media

the younger one is only 19, may have just been following his brother as so many younger siblings do,,,

anyway, its all tragic, I hope it doesnt resort in further profiling of muslims or russians, and my heart goes out to all the families involved , victims and suspects,,,


i think metal said it best when he said something to the effect of all this will do is make the government spend more money to stop this kind of acts, and eventually break the country...

osama has been winning, and he's been dead for a while now... everything is happening just like he wanted it to happen... and the stupid government can't see that

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 04/19/13 09:23 AM


I think I read that much, thanx Invictus

I just am waiting to hear the whole story, Im not sure being interested in is the same as actually being a muslim,,,,anymore than my interest in NOI or palestine makes me a muslim or palestinian

its interesting to note as well that the one who went out in a blaze was the older brother , and also the one reported to have the abovementioned social media

the younger one is only 19, may have just been following his brother as so many younger siblings do,,,

anyway, its all tragic, I hope it doesnt resort in further profiling of muslims or russians, and my heart goes out to all the families involved , victims and suspects,,,


i think metal said it best when he said something to the effect of all this will do is make the government spend more money to stop this kind of acts, and eventually break the country...

osama has been winning, and he's been dead for a while now... everything is happening just like he wanted it to happen... and the stupid government can't see that


"The purpose of terrorism is to terrorize." — Vladimir
Lenin

Vladimir Lenin once famously said that "the purpose of terrorism is to terrorize." Although terrorism employs violent means, and often uses military weaponry to execute attacks and massacres - the objective of a terrorist act isn't military victory. In fact, military forces are almost never the target of terrorist attacks. The objective of a terrorist attack is political reaction. The strategy behind such attacks is for them to be the catalyst, direct or indirect, for political change that weakens the enemy.

In classic political/strategic theory, the purpose of terrorism is to create a political psychology of fear and anger that persuades a government to undertake repressive and violent activities against its own populace, gradually losing their support, and eventually causing its own demise. Like a mite irritating a scorpion enough to persuade it to sting itself to death - the real weapon of terrorists isn't their bombs and guns - it is the the reactions they provoke. The harsher, more violent, brutal, and unreasonable those reactions are - the more successful the terrorist campaign becomes.

http://dmg-commonsense.blogspot.ch/2007/02/purpose-of-terrorism-is-to-terrorize.html

InvictusV's photo
Fri 04/19/13 09:32 AM

I think I read that much, thanx Invictus

I just am waiting to hear the whole story, Im not sure being interested in is the same as actually being a muslim,,,,anymore than my interest in NOI or palestine makes me a muslim or palestinian

its interesting to note as well that the one who went out in a blaze was the older brother , and also the one reported to have the abovementioned social media

the younger one is only 19, may have just been following his brother as so many younger siblings do,,,

anyway, its all tragic, I hope it doesnt resort in further profiling of muslims or russians, and my heart goes out to all the families involved , victims and suspects,,,


The vast majority of ethnic chechens are sunni muslim.