Topic: Black Political Activists: Tea Party 'Not Racist'
willing2's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:31 PM
Since when have the Democrats changed their spots?laugh laugh


Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:35 PM

ok granted,,, so let me clarify again


republican party is more likely to attract people who view minorities as second class citizens,, than democaratic party is,,,

,,,specific enough?


You keep making that claim, but you have not demonstrated that the Republican Party supports racist ideology.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:38 PM


ok granted,,, so let me clarify again


republican party is more likely to attract people who view minorities as second class citizens,, than democaratic party is,,,

,,,specific enough?


You keep making that claim, but you have not demonstrated that the Republican Party supports racist ideology.



I didn't say they had to

I never claimed the 'party' was racist

I claimed it ATTRACTS those who feel minorities are second class citizens

willing2's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:44 PM
What day, exactly did Democrats come out and claim they giving up their prejudice ways.

I musta been stoned or some schitt that day. laugh laugh laugh laugh

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:47 PM



ok granted,,, so let me clarify again


republican party is more likely to attract people who view minorities as second class citizens,, than democaratic party is,,,

,,,specific enough?


You keep making that claim, but you have not demonstrated that the Republican Party supports racist ideology.



I didn't say they had to

I never claimed the 'party' was racist

I claimed it ATTRACTS those who feel minorities are second class citizens


How?

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:55 PM



ok granted,,, so let me clarify again


republican party is more likely to attract people who view minorities as second class citizens,, than democaratic party is,,,

,,,specific enough?


You keep making that claim, but you have not demonstrated that the Republican Party supports racist ideology.



I didn't say they had to

I never claimed the 'party' was racist

I claimed it ATTRACTS those who feel minorities are second class citizens
so,how come it was the Democrats who sabotaged the Civil-Rights Legislation until they saw they had to climb on the Bandwagon for loss of Minority-Votes?

http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html

Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Movement:

A little known fact of history involves the heavy opposition to the civil rights movement by several prominent Democrats. Similar historical neglect is given to the important role Republicans played in supporting the civil rights movement. A calculation of 26 major civil rights votes from 1933 through the 1960's civil rights era shows that Republicans favored civil rights in approximately 96% of the votes, whereas the Democrats opposed them in 80% of the votes! These facts are often intentionally overlooked by the left wing Democrats for obvious reasons. In some cases, the Democrats have told flat out lies about their shameful record during the civil rights movement.

Democrat Senators organized the record Senate filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Included among the organizers were several prominent and well known liberal Democrat standard bearers including:
- Robert Byrd, current senator from West Virginia
- J. William Fulbright, Arkansas senator and political mentor of Bill Clinton
- Albert Gore Sr., Tennessee senator, father and political mentor of Al Gore. Gore Jr. has been known to lie about his father's opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
- Sam Ervin, North Carolina senator of Watergate hearings fame
- Richard Russell, famed Georgia senator and later President Pro Tempore

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia

Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans. The same Democrat standard bearers took their normal racists stances, this time with Senator Fulbright leading the opposition effort.

It took the hard work of Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen and Republican Whip Thomas Kuchel to pass the Civil Rights Act (Dirksen was presented a civil rights accomplishment award for the year by the head of the NAACP in recognition of his efforts). Upon breaking the Democrat filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Republican Dirksen took to the Senate floor and exclaimed "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!" (Full text of speech). Sadly, Democrats and revisionist historians have all but forgotten (and intentionally so) that it was Republican Dirksen, not the divided Democrats, who made the Civil Rights Act a reality. Dirksen also broke the Democrat filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Act that was signed by Republican President Eisenhower.

Outside of Congress, the three most notorious opponents of school integration were all Democrats:
- Orval Faubus, Democrat Governor of Arkansas and one of Bill Clinton's political heroes
- George Wallace, Democrat Governor of Alabama
- Lester Maddox, Democrat Governor of Georgia

The most famous of the school desegregation standoffs involved Governor Faubus. Democrat Faubus used police and state forces to block the integration of a high school in Little Rock, Arkansas. The standoff was settled and the school was integrated only after the intervention of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Even the Democrat Party organization resisted integration and refused to allow minority participation for decades. Exclusion of minorities was the general rule of the Democrat Party of many states for decades, especially in Texas. This racist policy reached its peak under the New Deal in the southern and western states, often known as the New Deal Coalition region of FDR. The Supreme Court in Nixon v. Herndon declared the practice of "white primaries" unconstitutional in 1927 after states had passed laws barring Blacks from participating in Democrat primaries. But the Democrat Parties did not yield to the Court’s order. After Nixon v. Herndon, Democrats simply made rules within the party's individual executive committees to bar minorities from participating, which were struck down in Nixon v. Condon in 1932. The Democrats, in typical racist fashion, responded by using state parties to pass rules barring blacks from participation. This decision was upheld in Grovey v. Townsend, which was not overturned until 1944 by Smith v. Allwright. The Texas Democrats responded with their usual ploys and turned to what was known as the "Jaybird system" which used private Democrat clubs to hold white-only votes on a slate of candidates, which were then transferred to the Democrat party itself and put on their primary ballot as the only choices. Terry v. Adams overturned the Jaybird system, prompting the Democrats to institute blocks of unit rule voting procedures as well as the infamous literacy tests and other Jim Crow regulations to specifically block minorities from participating in their primaries. In the end, it took 4 direct Supreme Court orders to end the Democrat's "white primary" system, and after that it took countless additional orders, several acts of Congress, and a constitutional amendment to tear down the Jim Crow codes that preserved the Democrat's white primary for decades beyond the final Supreme Court order ruling it officially unconstitutional.

Hispanics in South Texas were treated especially poorly by the Democrat Party, which relied heavily on a system of political bosses to coerce and intimidate Hispanics into voting for Democrat primary candidates of choice. Though coercion is illegal, this system, known as the Patron system, is still in use to this day by local Democrat parties in some heavy Hispanic communities of the southwest.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:57 PM
http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html

The next time Democrats take to the national airwaves to dishonestly accuse Republicans of racial hatred, remember who the historical record up until this very day points to as the real bigots: The Democrat Party. In all possible ways, the Democrat Party is built around the pillars of ultra leftists, many of whom are known participants in racism and/or affiliates of racist hate groups. Consider the Democrat Party of today's heroes and leaders:

- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Democrat icon and orchestrator of Japanese Internment
- Ex-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, former affiliate of a St. Louis area racist group
- Ex-Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd, former Ku Klux Klansman known for making bigoted slurs on national television
- Rev. Jesse Jackson, Democrat keynote speaker and race hustler known for making anti-Semitic slurs
- Rev. Al Sharpten, Democrat activist and perennial candidate and race hustler known inciting anti-Semitic violence in New York City
- Sen. Ernest Hollings, leading Democrat Senator known for use of racial slurs against several minority groups
- Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters
- Andrew Cuomo, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat candidate for NY Governor who made racist statements about a black opponent.
- Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast
- Donna Brazile, former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis

The simple truth is that the Democrat Party's history during this century is one closely aligned to bigotry in a record stemming largely out of the liberal New Deal era up until the modern day. Bigots are at the center of the Democrat party's current leadership and role models. And in a striking display of hypocrisy, many of the same Democrats who dishonestly shout accusations of "bigotry" at conservatives are practicing bigots of the most disgusting and disreputable kind themselves.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 02:59 PM
To address Conrad's issue . . .

These days, the Democratic Party promotes socialism and tells minorities that life in the USA would be better if the USA were turned into the United Socialist States of America.

willing2's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:05 PM
Great info, Conrad

no photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:11 PM



ok granted,,, so let me clarify again


republican party is more likely to attract people who view minorities as second class citizens,, than democaratic party is,,,

,,,specific enough?


You keep making that claim, but you have not demonstrated that the Republican Party supports racist ideology.



I didn't say they had to

I never claimed the 'party' was racist

I claimed it ATTRACTS those who feel minorities are second class citizens


Another claim that democrats feed to minorities. It's false.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:15 PM




ok granted,,, so let me clarify again


republican party is more likely to attract people who view minorities as second class citizens,, than democaratic party is,,,

,,,specific enough?


You keep making that claim, but you have not demonstrated that the Republican Party supports racist ideology.



I didn't say they had to

I never claimed the 'party' was racist

I claimed it ATTRACTS those who feel minorities are second class citizens


How?


do you seen any similarity here?


'We have the self-evident right and duty to work for the survival of our own culture and civilization. There is no reason to believe that the advances of modernity and the political freedoms we enjoy will endure with the extinction of the civilization that allowed them to exist. Western Civilization is our civilization and in spite of the continual assault and hatred it endures from the radical left, we wish to revive the West, rather than see our civilization be sent to the graveyard of history.”

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/white-supremacists-at-cpac.html#ixzz2bnNE9Aqb




The Tea Party Patriots stand with our founders, as heirs to the republic, to claim our rights and duties which preserve their legacy and our own. We hold, as did the founders, that there exists an inherent benefit to our country when private property and prosperity are secured by natural law and the rights of the individual. As an organization we do not take stances on social issues. We urge members to engage fully on the social issues they consider important and aligned with their beliefs.


..nothing huh?



Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:21 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Mon 08/12/13 03:22 PM





ok granted,,, so let me clarify again


republican party is more likely to attract people who view minorities as second class citizens,, than democaratic party is,,,

,,,specific enough?


You keep making that claim, but you have not demonstrated that the Republican Party supports racist ideology.



I didn't say they had to

I never claimed the 'party' was racist

I claimed it ATTRACTS those who feel minorities are second class citizens


How?


do you seen any similarity here?


'We have the self-evident right and duty to work for the survival of our own culture and civilization. There is no reason to believe that the advances of modernity and the political freedoms we enjoy will endure with the extinction of the civilization that allowed them to exist. Western Civilization is our civilization and in spite of the continual assault and hatred it endures from the radical left, we wish to revive the West, rather than see our civilization be sent to the graveyard of history.”

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/white-supremacists-at-cpac.html#ixzz2bnNE9Aqb




The Tea Party Patriots stand with our founders, as heirs to the republic, to claim our rights and duties which preserve their legacy and our own. We hold, as did the founders, that there exists an inherent benefit to our country when private property and prosperity are secured by natural law and the rights of the individual. As an organization we do not take stances on social issues. We urge members to engage fully on the social issues they consider important and aligned with their beliefs.


..nothing huh?





I asked about the Republican Party. Now, find something in the Republican Party's national platform that is racist.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:30 PM
By the way, unlike the Republican Party, which has a formal structure complete with official leaders and official belief statements, the Tea Party is not one organization with such an official structure, etc.

The Tea Party is a movement consisting of small groups that work together for a common cause, which is to bring the U.S. government back within its constitutional boundaries.

So, any statement made by one Tea Party group isn't an official statement representing the entire Tea Party movement.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:32 PM

To address Conrad's issue . . .

These days, the Democratic Party promotes socialism and tells minorities that life in the USA would be better if the USA were turned into the United Socialist States of America.


these days, the democratic party no longer has mostly SOUTHERN representation either

to clarify the voting acts right by REGION

yeah-nay votes

The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)



let me clarify: in the house , your republican representation had 10 out of a possible 172 who were from the south, all 10 of which were AGAINST It

your democratic representation had 94 out of 248 who were from the south, 87 of which were AGAINST IT


in the senate, your republican representation had 1 out of a possible 32 who was from the south, and who was AGAINST It


your democratic representation had 21 out of 67 who were from the south, 20 of which were AGAINST IT


the issue was divided north and south at a time when democrats had mor of a southern representation,, that time is long gone,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:40 PM

the issue was divided north and south at a time when democrats had mor of a southern representation,, that time is long gone,,,


That time is long gone?

That is what I and others keep saying about the current state of race relations in the USA. The Civil Rights Movement succeeded, which is why any remaining institutional racism is now on life-support.

Anyway, you didn't address what I said about the Democratic Party's promotion of socialism.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:43 PM


the issue was divided north and south at a time when democrats had mor of a southern representation,, that time is long gone,,,


That time is long gone?

That is what I and others keep saying about the current state of race relations in the USA. The Civil Rights Movement succeeded, which is why any remaining institutional racism is now on life-support.

Anyway, you didn't address what I said about the Democratic Party's promotion of socialism.


on life support unless it makes a recovery


I Cant address 'socialism' as I consider it too broad an issue with too often a spin about being 'right or wrong',, or 'good or bad'

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:46 PM



do you seen any similarity here?


'We have the self-evident right and duty to work for the survival of our own culture and civilization. There is no reason to believe that the advances of modernity and the political freedoms we enjoy will endure with the extinction of the civilization that allowed them to exist. Western Civilization is our civilization and in spite of the continual assault and hatred it endures from the radical left, we wish to revive the West, rather than see our civilization be sent to the graveyard of history.”

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/white-supremacists-at-cpac.html#ixzz2bnNE9Aqb




The Tea Party Patriots stand with our founders, as heirs to the republic, to claim our rights and duties which preserve their legacy and our own. We hold, as did the founders, that there exists an inherent benefit to our country when private property and prosperity are secured by natural law and the rights of the individual. As an organization we do not take stances on social issues. We urge members to engage fully on the social issues they consider important and aligned with their beliefs.


..nothing huh?





Uh, I see the same choice of a few words, but with vague meanings.

Plus, I don't know where that latter statement originated.

Anyway, the two statements contain too many differences for me to conclude that they are of the same origin.

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Mon 08/12/13 03:46 PM


The real and the good thing is,that thinking black folks are starting to question the Democratic Party's motives and actions.
Some thought don't want to or they are too stupid to think for themselves and believe whatever they hear.



Wow..., this statement of yours about Black Democratizes who join this party are non-thinkers leads me to believe that statements like this., makes someone like me think that you think to much about yourself. What ever happen to democracy and it's meaning., that a form of government exercised either directly by the people or through their elected representatives.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:47 PM



the issue was divided north and south at a time when democrats had mor of a southern representation,, that time is long gone,,,


That time is long gone?

That is what I and others keep saying about the current state of race relations in the USA. The Civil Rights Movement succeeded, which is why any remaining institutional racism is now on life-support.

Anyway, you didn't address what I said about the Democratic Party's promotion of socialism.


on life support unless it makes a recovery


I Cant address 'socialism' as I consider it too broad an issue with too often a spin about being 'right or wrong',, or 'good or bad'


Institutional racism isn't making recovery except in the minds of people who are stuck in the 70s.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/12/13 03:47 PM
not really my point,,,

my point is that the 'vague' ideology matches closely enough to attract others with similar ideology,,,