100% FREE ONLINE DATING
sponsored links
Previous
| Topic: Black Political Activists: Tea Party 'Not Racist' | |
|---|---|
|
Edited by
Leigh2154
on
Mon 08/19/13 07:58 AM
|
|
so many African Americans don't have proper identification or the means to acquire it You are going to have to justify that claim. What makes black Americans incapable of acquiring ID? ...and because so many have felony convictions. Uh, people have felony convictions because they choose to commit felonies, including white felons. If it isn't a problem for white felons to lose the right to vote, then why is it a problem for black felons to lose the right to vote? Are black felons supposed to have a right that white felons don't have? You are not following the institutional racism dots David....Poverty is what makes them incapable....The kind of poverty too many Americans deny exists because they are isolated...The kind of poverty that makes the simple act of obtaining a proper ID unaffordable....The kind of poverty that makes the process of obtaining an ID impossible to accomplish... Felons......I'm speaking about how it applies with respect to institutional racism only.... Institutional racism runs rampant in our criminal system...Some examples include a surge in black arrests that has continued for decades, disproportionate stop and frisk rates among blacks resulting in petty drug arrests, longer wait time for arrests due to inability to afford an attorney and swamped public defenders, pleading out even when they are innocent because they don't understand their legal rights, disparities in jury selection (blacks are frequently illegally excluded), plea bargains that result in longer sentences which results in more blacks getting "caught" up in the system, receiving sentences that on average are 10% longer than white offenders of the same crimes..There is more, but if you want to know, you can do the leg work....I don't have to approve of a growing black criminal mentality to acknowledge institutional racism exists in our criminal system...Once released, blacks who were wrongly convicted or unfairly convicted are going to find a way to vote if they want to vote...Requiring voter ID is just one more way to disenfranchise the black voter BECAUSE INSTITUTIONAL RACISM EXISTS....Hugs, Leigh.... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
if you turn 'poor' enough to need public assistance, you can get a phone from a very profitable phone company which offers the program,,,,with a whopping 4 hours per month of talk time,,, My grandson had one of those. He used the whopping 4 hours for call backs to job interviews. He got a job so now he doesn't use it. Worked out well for him. that's kind of the point of it,, Im working but don't have a phone, so its hard to look for a better job when so many hours are spent away from the home or a phone,,, Yea, he is working now too. He has a Tracfone. Cost him $11.00 a month. My point was that he used it as a tool to better himself. He got off of assistance got himself a job with it. Is your grandson white? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
.Poverty is what makes them incapable....The kind of poverty too many Americans deny exists because they are isolated...The kind of poverty that makes the simple act of obtaining a proper ID unaffordable....The kind of poverty that makes the process of obtaining an ID impossible to accomplish... A state-issued ID in Oklahoma costs $10. One in Mississippi costs $14. So, a state-issued ID is affordable to people who are in poverty. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
.Poverty is what makes them incapable....The kind of poverty too many Americans deny exists because they are isolated...The kind of poverty that makes the simple act of obtaining a proper ID unaffordable....The kind of poverty that makes the process of obtaining an ID impossible to accomplish... A state-issued ID in Oklahoma costs $10. One in Mississippi costs $14. So, a state-issued ID is affordable to people who are in poverty. that doesn't include the costs for the documents REQUIRED to obtain id,,,,birth cert, soc security card nor the expense for those who live in rural areas or who are not on buslines or drivers to get back and forth to the locations necessary nor the time they may have to take away from jobs to potentially do this within the business hours,,, |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
Dodo_David
on
Mon 08/19/13 08:02 PM
|
|
.Poverty is what makes them incapable....The kind of poverty too many Americans deny exists because they are isolated...The kind of poverty that makes the simple act of obtaining a proper ID unaffordable....The kind of poverty that makes the process of obtaining an ID impossible to accomplish... A state-issued ID in Oklahoma costs $10. One in Mississippi costs $14. So, a state-issued ID is affordable to people who are in poverty. that doesn't include the costs for the documents REQUIRED to obtain id,,,,birth cert, soc security card nor the expense for those who live in rural areas or who are not on buslines or drivers to get back and forth to the locations necessary nor the time they may have to take away from jobs to potentially do this within the business hours,,, Oh, gee. How does anyone in rural areas obtain a state-issued ID? How does anyone in rural areas get to voting booths? Seriously, there is nothing about obtaining state-issued IDs that affects minorities and not affect whites. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
msharmony
on
Mon 08/19/13 08:06 PM
|
|
.Poverty is what makes them incapable....The kind of poverty too many Americans deny exists because they are isolated...The kind of poverty that makes the simple act of obtaining a proper ID unaffordable....The kind of poverty that makes the process of obtaining an ID impossible to accomplish... A state-issued ID in Oklahoma costs $10. One in Mississippi costs $14. So, a state-issued ID is affordable to people who are in poverty. that doesn't include the costs for the documents REQUIRED to obtain id,,,,birth cert, soc security card nor the expense for those who live in rural areas or who are not on buslines or drivers to get back and forth to the locations necessary nor the time they may have to take away from jobs to potentially do this within the business hours,,, Oh, gee. How does anyone in rural areas obtain state-issued ID. How does anyone in rural areas get to voting booths? Seriously, there is nothing about obtaining state-issued IDs that affects minorities and not affect whites. nothing affects only ONE RACE< but things can affect some races more disproportionately than others and mostly, this kind of law disenfranchise impoverished and elderly,, more disproportionately black but also white and other races as well many people in rural areas don't do any business REQUIREING a state id,,,I know its hard for those of us who live with them to fathom but MANY areas of the country have hundreds of thousands of people who don't use them,,,,,or need them,,, many don't drive, many don't have a copy of their birth certificate, many areas don't have dmvs or ss offices in their town,,,, |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
BC are about 20.00.
MH. How much did you pay for A SS card? I get replacements for FREE. More lame excuses to perpetuate the fraud.  |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
BC are about 20.00. MH. How much did you pay for A SS card? I get replacements for FREE. More lame excuses to perpetuate the fraud. Ive kept my social security card hundreds of thousands of others don't keep one its easy to call it an 'excuse' when we have the conveniences that allow it to be so easy for us,,, but many have plenty of obstacles, that shouldn't be obstacles, when it comes to the right to vote,,,,, they shouldn't have to work any harder at exercising their right than the rest of us,,, |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
SS CARDS ARE FREE!
YOU, I, THEY, DON'T PAY ONE NICKEL FOR THEM. Name a town. I'll show ya where the nearest SS office is. Rational and honest folks see through the excuses. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
willing2
on
Mon 08/19/13 08:51 PM
|
|
Whatever minute number of folks that could be affected by voter I'd, IMO, is worth a fair, fraud free voting process.
Besides, aren't the libs the ones claiming collateral damage is acceptable? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
SS CARDS ARE FREE! YOU, I, THEY, DON'T PAY ONE NICKEL FOR THEM. Name a town. I'll show ya where the nearest SS office is. Rational and honest folks see through the excuses. no kidding? but the id and birth certificate required for the card do cost money the 'nearest' office for many can be several hours away,,,,and that's just the ss office, not to mention getting a birth certificate or an id card,, which are two OTHER locations like I said,, undue hardship to put people through for a 'right' |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
SS CARDS ARE FREE! YOU, I, THEY, DON'T PAY ONE NICKEL FOR THEM. Name a town. I'll show ya where the nearest SS office is. Rational and honest folks see through the excuses. no kidding? but the id and birth certificate required for the card do cost money the 'nearest' office for many can be several hours away,,,,and that's just the ss office, not to mention getting a birth certificate or an id card,, which are two OTHER locations like I said,, undue hardship to put people through for a 'right' There isn't an election every week. If you can't make it to a motor vehicle office within 2 years then that isnt a hardship its an EXCUSE.. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
SS CARDS ARE FREE! YOU, I, THEY, DON'T PAY ONE NICKEL FOR THEM. Name a town. I'll show ya where the nearest SS office is. Rational and honest folks see through the excuses. no kidding? but the id and birth certificate required for the card do cost money the 'nearest' office for many can be several hours away,,,,and that's just the ss office, not to mention getting a birth certificate or an id card,, which are two OTHER locations like I said,, undue hardship to put people through for a 'right' There isn't an election every week. If you can't make it to a motor vehicle office within 2 years then that isnt a hardship its an EXCUSE.. well, I guess your minds are made up,, not big hardship to yall,, so no big hardship period,,, |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
How do the libs put it?
Collateral damage is acceptable in the war on fraud. Like the man said. If they can't get id in two years, it's an excuse. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
.Poverty is what makes them incapable....The kind of poverty too many Americans deny exists because they are isolated...The kind of poverty that makes the simple act of obtaining a proper ID unaffordable....The kind of poverty that makes the process of obtaining an ID impossible to accomplish... A state-issued ID in Oklahoma costs $10. One in Mississippi costs $14. So, a state-issued ID is affordable to people who are in poverty. OK David, now I have a question...If I take voter ID requirements out of the mix, will you accept the "fact" that institutional racism exists and is not on the decline?...Can't solve a problem until you acknowledge it IS A PROBLEM.... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
the 'nearest' office for many can be several hours away,,,,and that's just the ss office, not to mention getting a birth certificate or an id card,, which are two OTHER locations like I said,, undue hardship to put people through for a 'right' I'd say that white farmers living out in the rural areas have much further to travel then inner city folk that live close to govt buildings. But guess that goes against the perception some people would like you to believe. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
SS CARDS ARE FREE! YOU, I, THEY, DON'T PAY ONE NICKEL FOR THEM. Name a town. I'll show ya where the nearest SS office is. Rational and honest folks see through the excuses. no kidding? but the id and birth certificate required for the card do cost money the 'nearest' office for many can be several hours away,,,,and that's just the ss office, not to mention getting a birth certificate or an id card,, which are two OTHER locations like I said,, undue hardship to put people through for a 'right' There isn't an election every week. If you can't make it to a motor vehicle office within 2 years then that isnt a hardship its an EXCUSE.. well, I guess your minds are made up,, not big hardship to yall,, so no big hardship period,,, Well, I guess your mind is made up, fraud is not a big deal to yall, so no big fraud period.. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
SS CARDS ARE FREE! YOU, I, THEY, DON'T PAY ONE NICKEL FOR THEM. Name a town. I'll show ya where the nearest SS office is. Rational and honest folks see through the excuses. no kidding? but the id and birth certificate required for the card do cost money the 'nearest' office for many can be several hours away,,,,and that's just the ss office, not to mention getting a birth certificate or an id card,, which are two OTHER locations like I said,, undue hardship to put people through for a 'right' There isn't an election every week. If you can't make it to a motor vehicle office within 2 years then that isnt a hardship its an EXCUSE.. well, I guess your minds are made up,, not big hardship to yall,, so no big hardship period,,, Well, I guess your mind is made up, fraud is not a big deal to yall, so no big fraud period.. Voter fraud is a huge deal to me and I think everything that can be done to prevent it should be done...Voter ID is an excellent place to start in spite of the fact that it will disenfranchise some voters because a fair election process should always be the primary consideration...Besides, I'm sure liberal pressure will result in "give me's" for those who "honestly" can't afford to obtain valid ID...As for those wrongly or unfairly convicted, two wrongs don't make a right..... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Yes ma'am!
If a person can be proven they were wrongly imprisoned and are innocent, their rights should be reinstated immediately. And, they should get union wage time and a half reimbursement for time incarcerated. Then, retired with a union scale retirement. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
willing2
on
Tue 08/20/13 08:25 AM
|
|
Lagging
|
|
|
|
|
