Topic: Bill Cosby
Lpdon's photo
Fri 11/28/14 10:15 PM

A very funny person.
And I mean Funny.
Your thoughts.


There's a ton of women who don't think he is funny..............

mowildflower's photo
Sat 11/29/14 02:37 AM
If Crosby did the crime, he should be held accountable and do the time.

Times are changing, with social media, the victims no longer stand alone.

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Sat 11/29/14 05:54 AM
Bill Crosby has been a outspoken defender of family values and a documented firm believer in moral ethics. He has been married since 1964 and has children and grandchildren..

At last count, 16 women have accused him of sexual contact or rape, 12 of those are claiming they were drugged.

These alleged crimes were committed during his marriage and while he was raising his family. Which at the very least, would go against the grain of the moral and family values he so stanchly stands for.

I would think on that platform alone he would defend himself.. but he remains silent.


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Sat 11/29/14 06:01 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 11/29/14 06:04 AM

Greatness, rhetoric, and a media facade does not always go hand in hand with moral or ethic values.

I think we can cite another, if not many, who say one thing and do another..... just look at DC for example

Lpdon's photo
Sat 11/29/14 06:47 AM

Yes! I made a referecne to historical events or discussion.


Because a lot of them just came forward. This is a current event\current news.

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Sat 11/29/14 06:49 AM
Edited by mowildflower on Sat 11/29/14 06:50 AM

Bill Crosby has been a outspoken defender of family values and a documented firm believer in moral ethics. He has been married since 1964 and has children and grandchildren.

I would think on that platform alone he would defend himself.. but he remains silent.


Often people say one thing and do another. He would not be the first man to sexually assault someone while married and raising a family.

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Sat 11/29/14 07:31 AM
I'm not saying Bill Crosby is the first man to sexually assault a woman while married.. far from it. This (unfortunately) is a problem which crosses every ethnic group and every level of society.

I mention this because the thread is about him. If the thread were about someone else, then I would be saying the same about them.

I just find it strange that ANYONE who built a lifetime on the standards that he has and who has been accused the way he has been, has not fired back "guns blazing".

I would have, had someone tried to assassinate my character in that manner.

But, that's just my opinion

metalwing's photo
Sat 11/29/14 07:45 AM

I'm not saying Bill Crosby is the first man to sexually assault a woman while married.. far from it. This (unfortunately) is a problem which crosses every ethnic group and every level of society.

I mention this because the thread is about him. If the thread were about someone else, then I would be saying the same about them.

I just find it strange that ANYONE who built a lifetime on the standards that he has and who has been accused the way he has been, has not fired back "guns blazing".

I would have, had someone tried to assassinate my character in that manner.

But, that's just my opinion


Actually, this is not new. Cosby has fought this battle in the past. What is new is that a large number of women are making a similar complaint.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/29/14 08:27 AM

If Crosby did the crime, he should be held accountable and do the time.

Times are changing, with social media, the victims no longer stand alone.


there is no time to be had,, there is a statute of limitations on rape and it is far less than 3 decades,,,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/29/14 08:31 AM

I'm not saying Bill Crosby is the first man to sexually assault a woman while married.. far from it. This (unfortunately) is a problem which crosses every ethnic group and every level of society.

I mention this because the thread is about him. If the thread were about someone else, then I would be saying the same about them.

I just find it strange that ANYONE who built a lifetime on the standards that he has and who has been accused the way he has been, has not fired back "guns blazing".

I would have, had someone tried to assassinate my character in that manner.

But, that's just my opinion




The problem with that is that once someone reaches a certain level of fame/infamy,,,,,especially in this era of internet

they could literally BUST themselves fighting every accusation against their characters,,,,,,why do we believe tabloids stay in business?


I would not continue to fight the same accusations every time they were made,,,,,,,it wouldn't stop the accusations before I ran out of energy and funds,,,,,,and I would definitely have better things to spend my money on,,,,

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Sat 11/29/14 09:46 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 11/29/14 09:47 AM



If Crosby did the crime, he should be held accountable and do the time.

Times are changing, with social media, the victims no longer stand alone.


there is no time to be had,, there is a statute of limitations on rape and it is far less than 3 decades,,,,
I dont know how well that argument went for the Catholic church. I think there are different things at stake than jail time, like patronage, or marketability.

do we want to be members of a congregation that supports rapists.
do we want to be members of a fanbase that supports rapists.

thats the real issue it seems. and thats why people are interested in this.



the argument went for catholic church or anyone else,,,,

rape has a statute of limitations,,, someone assaulted WITHIN that period can bring charges,, outside of it there is no charge of rape ,,,,


I do agree marketability is at stake, but that will be irrelevant to his guilt or innocence, and the damage is done with mere allegations

I don't want to be part of a base that assumes to know what people did forty years ago with no evidence besides people making claims

I consume products I enjoy, I really don't care what the personal lives of those producing it are CLAIMED BY OTHERS TO BE,,, if they have broken laws, let the justice system handle it and perhaps they wont be able to produce anymore,,,

not to say I don't understand Im probably in the minority with that view, or that many people will hold producers to different standards and base their consumer choices on the person instead of the product,,,



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Sat 11/29/14 10:08 AM



the argument went for catholic church or anyone else,,,,

rape has a statute of limitations,,, someone assaulted WITHIN that period can bring charges,, outside of it there is no charge of rape ,,,,




Again, a charge of rape would only tend toward jail time which is not the only issue of concern. You realise that.

Rape, itself, the act, is another story. the act is not a charge. it is an act.

The church makes an actual business that appeals based on its presumption of morality/decency. Cosby built a career based on 'family values'. All priests are not rapists. All priests who have been accused, are also not rapists. Hopefully, Cosby is not guilty of what he has been accused of. He IS his product.


I hope he's not guilty. I haven't decided that he is. I think a lot of people hope he is not guilty and haven't decided that he is.

Simply discussing the matter seems to mean, to you, that others think he is guilty. I hope thats not true as well.







actually, he didn't do the whole family values things till after his career took off

he started of , as a younger man, in a spy series,,,which had NOTHING to do with family values

people evolve,,,,at different times in their lives

FOr me, people are people and they are all flawed

their product is what I buy, not the person,,,,,


his product is his COMEDY, which is funny, and doesn't retroactively become unfunny because of personal information being exposed or alleged,,,

the comment earlier was directed at someone who obviously DOES think he is guilty, by their desire to comment on his funniness with the assertion that some women don't think he is,, implying a guilt on his part,,,

we are not in disagreement, I just was clearing up my PERSONAL view

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/29/14 11:35 AM
children and adults sex lives are different things

Cosby has had a string of work,, plenty of it was directed towards childrens shows,,,,some were nothing about children such as uptown Saturday night and other black themed movies he starred in,,,

he is known for working with KIDS and that is a separate thing from what he has done in his ADULT SEXUAL life,,,,unless someone accuses him of having raped a child,, that is,,,


he became well known through a large collection of work, especially during the time these instances allegedly happened,,,


the 'family' shows came quite a while after,,,,which is what most people only really know him from the 'cosby show' some two decades after these incidents allegedly happened


which brings me back to my point about statutes and the passage of time,,,,,,show me something he was doing THEN that was inconsistent with his partying as AN ADULT

and I would see the relevance

since the time of these ALLEGED incidents, his ability or likelihood of having grown, learned, and evolved,,, does not escape me as it does others,,,

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Sat 11/29/14 01:17 PM
Well, lets all hope he did not actually do these alleged crimes and rapes.

Because essentially if a person did.. he would be evolving from nothing more then a calculating sick animal.. a predator.. of the worst kind.

Time will tell.

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Sat 11/29/14 01:48 PM


A very funny person.
And I mean Funny.
Your thoughts.


There's a ton of women who don't think he is funny..............


Really, can you name some? Surely not those that enjoyed being part of that back then and now see what? The prospect of money?

Yeah, that's the ticket, money to replace funny.

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Sat 11/29/14 02:00 PM
Edited by alnewman on Sat 11/29/14 02:25 PM

Bill Crosby has been a outspoken defender of family values and a documented firm believer in moral ethics. He has been married since 1964 and has children and grandchildren..

At last count, 16 women have accused him of sexual contact or rape, 12 of those are claiming they were drugged.

These alleged crimes were committed during his marriage and while he was raising his family. Which at the very least, would go against the grain of the moral and family values he so stanchly stands for.

I would think on that platform alone he would defend himself.. but he remains silent.




Why, he has already been pronounced guilty. His morals in marriage are a matter between him and his wife, no one else.

As to the rest, it is upon them to prove their accusations not for Cosby to do the impossible, prove a negative.

But being lawyers protect lawyers their will never be justice in this matter, Cosby is guilty be proclamation and will be punished for the rest of his life. His income is in jeopardy, his fortune could be taken and his freedom could be at stake.

For what, 16 or possibly more that wanted anything in this world to be near Cosby. And by anything, dropping their drawers if they even had any and participating in the world of coke, smoke and booze.

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Sat 11/29/14 02:04 PM


Bill Crosby has been a outspoken defender of family values and a documented firm believer in moral ethics. He has been married since 1964 and has children and grandchildren.

I would think on that platform alone he would defend himself.. but he remains silent.


Often people say one thing and do another. He would not be the first man to sexually assault someone while married and raising a family.


Sexually assault, that is being very presumptuous is it not? Conviction by the idiocy of the masses? Should we just go ahead and bypass the trial for expediency?

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Sat 11/29/14 02:21 PM



If Crosby did the crime, he should be held accountable and do the time.

Times are changing, with social media, the victims no longer stand alone.


there is no time to be had,, there is a statute of limitations on rape and it is far less than 3 decades,,,,
I dont know how well that argument went for the Catholic church. I think there are different things at stake than jail time, like patronage, or marketability.

do we want to be members of a congregation that supports rapists.
do we want to be members of a fanbase that supports rapists.

thats the real issue it seems. and thats why people are interested in this.


Really, let's see: Kardasians, Miley Cyus, Beyonce... the list is endless and somehow the morals of Crosby is called to the carpet by the same masses that so support all the others.

I would say that would be included in the arena of idiotic analogies.

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Sat 11/29/14 02:32 PM
Edited for targeting other member's opinions.

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Sat 11/29/14 03:11 PM
I Just thought his joke about Spanish fly. and 15 white women.