Topic: black lives matter
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Fri 05/01/15 01:00 PM
what they should be saying is all lives matter. the media continues to always make police brutality be about race, as if its only white cops that kill black men when in reality the color of your skin doesnt matter. killer cops treat everyone the same. just as many white people if not more are abused and killed by cops, but that doesnt always make the news.

http://www.infowars.com/brutal-honesty-this-is-the-video-about-racism-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

go to that URL and look at that video and you will see the truth.

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Fri 05/01/15 01:18 PM
Edited by messi_is_a_tim_1888 on Fri 05/01/15 01:19 PM
All lives matter regardless of colour, or social standing, but try tell that to those trigger happy police not just in the US, but also here in the UK also! Yes, it happens over here too, not on the same scale as in America, but it still happens. The police get off because they get investigated by police! Why is that? Why not have an independent committee investigate them? I used to respect the police when I was younger, but now I don't as their us and them attitude is shocking to say the least! To protect and serve? Aye their own that is and screw the general public!!!

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Fri 05/01/15 01:46 PM

All lives matter regardless of colour, or social standing, but try tell that to those trigger happy police not just in the US, but also here in the UK also! Yes, it happens over here too, not on the same scale as in America, but it still happens. The police get off because they get investigated by police! Why is that? Why not have an independent committee investigate them? I used to respect the police when I was younger, but now I don't as their us and them attitude is shocking to say the least! To protect and serve? Aye their own that is and screw the general public!!!

yup the police are way out of control and the media would like you to believe that police brutality only applies to black people when theres plenty of video evidence to say otherwise. i used to respect police too, but ive been beaten by cops before,falsely arrested and have seen way too much to respect these people. the reason the media is always trying to act like its always white cop kills black man is because they want to keep us divided. the more divided the people are the less likely we are to stand together against tyranny in this country.

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Fri 05/01/15 02:16 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 05/01/15 02:35 PM

Black lives only seem to matter when there is an agenda or money involved.

Blacks kill more blacks every day without any complaints or addressing the cause other than with rhetoric. No money or praise in that scenario. But if an officer, or another race kills them it becomes injustice or inequality.

Holder should also be in this picture!


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Fri 05/01/15 02:31 PM
It is amazing how Al Sharpton's "lock jaw" condition kicked in again during the riots.

He really should get that checked out by doctors.

Because he is never able to find any words during looting and rioting. But the condition clears up when the cameras lights turn to him.. well after the destruction is done.



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Fri 05/01/15 02:34 PM

It is amazing how Al Sharpton's "lock jaw" condition kicked in again during the riots.

He really should get that checked out by doctors.

Because he is never able to find any words during looting and rioting. But the condition clears up when the cameras lights turn to him.. well after the destruction is done.




right.

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Fri 05/01/15 02:36 PM

It is amazing how Al Sharpton's "lock jaw" condition kicked in again during the riots.

He really should get that checked out by doctors.

Because he is never able to find any words during looting and rioting. But the condition clears up when the cameras lights turn to him.. well after the destruction is done.



That's when peoples check books are open

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Fri 05/01/15 02:41 PM
what they should be saying is all lives matter.
the media continues to always make police
brutality be about race, as if its only white
cops that kill black men


Caesar Goodson, the cop with the 2nd degree murder charge is African American, if that makes you feel any better.



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Fri 05/01/15 02:50 PM

what they should be saying is all lives matter.
the media continues to always make police
brutality be about race, as if its only white
cops that kill black men


Caesar Goodson, the cop with the 2nd degree murder charge is African American, if that makes you feel any better.




yep, thats the point of this topic. its not just white cops brutalizing black people. its police brutalizing everyone.

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Fri 05/01/15 03:04 PM


Black lives only seem to matter when there is an agenda or money involved.

Blacks kill more bulacks every day without any complaints or addressing the cause other than with rhetoric. No money or praise in that scenario. But if an officer, or another race kills them it becomes injustice or inequality.

Holder should also be in this picture!

Most rape cases are black on black & by someone the victim knows.
Where is the outrage?

If an historicaly sexist society like India can drive women to the streets screaming & caring signs saying " NO MORE " Then where are the strong & resilient black American women at?
I just don't get it. think



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Fri 05/01/15 05:04 PM

what they should be saying is all lives matter. the media continues to always make police brutality be about race, as if its only white cops that kill black men when in reality the color of your skin doesnt matter. killer cops treat everyone the same. just as many white people if not more are abused and killed by cops, but that doesnt always make the news.

http://www.infowars.com/brutal-honesty-this-is-the-video-about-racism-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

go to that URL and look at that video and you will see the truth.


blacks are killed at about four times the rate of whites during arrests,, if one is looking for the relevance

but any of it is wrong, and all should unite to do something about it, especially since though it disproportionately impacts blacks during arrests,, it happens to all types of people

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Fri 05/01/15 05:09 PM



Black lives only seem to matter when there is an agenda or money involved.

Blacks kill more bulacks every day without any complaints or addressing the cause other than with rhetoric. No money or praise in that scenario. But if an officer, or another race kills them it becomes injustice or inequality.

Holder should also be in this picture!

Most rape cases are black on black & by someone the victim knows.
Where is the outrage?

If an historicaly sexist society like India can drive women to the streets screaming & caring signs saying " NO MORE " Then where are the strong & resilient black American women at?
I just don't get it. think



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the problem isnt holding black criminals accountable, there is an abundance of that

the issue is holding those who take black lives accountable(even when they arent black)


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Fri 05/01/15 05:11 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Fri 05/01/15 05:18 PM
messi_is_a_tim_1888 stated >>>
All lives matter regardless of colour, or social standing, but try tell that to those trigger happy police not just in the US, but also here in the UK also! Yes, it happens over here too, not on the same scale as in America, but it still happens. The police get off because they get investigated by police! Why is that? Why not have an independent committee investigate them? I used to respect the police when I was younger, but now I don't as their us and them attitude is shocking to say the least! To protect and serve? Aye their own that is and screw the general public!!!


EXCELLENT question MessisaTim ...


Despite more than doubling the number of its investigations into police departments over the past five fiscal years ��to more than 20 nationwide now-��the Department of Justice has failed to keep up with these police abuses and address them as a national problem, critics say. Typically summoned only in sporadic cases surrounded by public furor-��like the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson-��almost every DOJ probe has found a systemic problem of police and court abuse of minority communities, says Alec Karakatsanis, co-founder of Equal Justice Under Law, a nonprofit civil rights law firm.

But, he asks, what about the rest of the cities in the United States? ��Where has the DOJ been in uncovering this? Where have the lawyers been? Where has the legal profession been? Under Obama, the DOJ has spent $80 million per year prosecuting medical marijuana cases, and not very much on crime by police.'

Indeed, out of the DOJs nearly $26 billion budget, the Civil Rights Division was allotted just $147 million in fiscal 2015; and of that, just $12.2 million was allotted to staff working on “effective and democratically accountable policing.” The Office on Violence against Women got $414 million. Drug enforcement got $2 billion. The prison system received $6.9 billion.
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Reliable data on police abuse is almost impossible to come by, and here too the federal government has failed to step up. In response to public outrage after the 1991 Rodney King beating, Congress passed a 1994 law that mandated an annual report on police violence. At the Justice Department’s request, the International Association of Police Chiefs (IAPC) conducted a pilot study. But according to John Firman, director of development of the IAPC, after a year the Justice Department shut it down after only 600 out of about 18,000 police departments in the country reported back. The law had no means of forcing cooperation, Firman added.

A Department of Justice spokesperson said that to comply with the 1994 law, the NIJ and Bureau of Justice Statistics later developed something called the Police Public Contact Survey, which is ��designed to understand the nature and characteristics of citizen contacts with the police.” But that does nothing to ascertain when police use force incorrectly, says Stinson, who adds that he developed his own national database on police arrests and convictions using Google News’ search engine.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/north-charleston-shooting-americas-police-abuse-epidemic-116838_Page2.html#ixzz3YvztfKDW



Yes, indeed...that data/stats would be an interesting thing to have but there's little chance of that every happening! And out here in 'RURAL AMERICA' where there are still sheriff & police departments that are not computer literate and their data is still kept in ledger books {my hand} and if you're able to read those hen scratch's from the prior record clerks then 'good luck to you!' There's no national data base that these rural area's report to - there's no link up to the Highway Patrol/FBI data base --- NADA; these poor poverty pockets of America can't support that type of hardware let alone keeping up with the software technology!

But I thought all of that confiscated drug money was supposed to be going back into the law enforcement department? Well, yes & no --- Yes, it is but not for office/record collecting computer equipment; that money is being spent on those 'BIG BOY TOYS'---military surplus equipment for more WAR ON DRUGS




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Fri 05/01/15 05:18 PM
Yea but, would you really want a policeman's job? Not me.huh

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Fri 05/01/15 05:18 PM
As with aboriginal people in Australia - 3% of the total population but almost 30% of the prison population. Shameful statistics for all Australians.

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Fri 05/01/15 10:02 PM

As with aboriginal people in Australia - 3% of the total population but almost 30% of the prison population. Shameful statistics for all Australians.


The issue is that they are unable to assimilate into a civilized society. They have their own culture and methods and can't seem to live in an evolved world. We could say that about many cultures and people.

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Fri 05/01/15 10:10 PM


what they should be saying is all lives matter.
the media continues to always make police
brutality be about race, as if its only white
cops that kill black men


Caesar Goodson, the cop with the 2nd degree murder charge is African American, if that makes you feel any better.




yep, thats the point of this topic. its not just white cops brutalizing black people. its police brutalizing everyone.


Man, you really drink the Kool Aid. I deal with Law Enforcement on a daily basis and have been involved in some pretty messed up situations, including as many on here know a death while in custody situation and very rarely do police ever take it to far. In fact in the 18 years I have now been doing this I have never seen it happen.

These men and women put their lives and their families lives and future on the line every day they go to work. They deal with some of the worst people society has to offer and you expect them to take it with a smile on their face?

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Fri 05/01/15 10:14 PM


what they should be saying is all lives matter. the media continues to always make police brutality be about race, as if its only white cops that kill black men when in reality the color of your skin doesnt matter. killer cops treat everyone the same. just as many white people if not more are abused and killed by cops, but that doesnt always make the news.

http://www.infowars.com/brutal-honesty-this-is-the-video-about-racism-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

go to that URL and look at that video and you will see the truth.


blacks are killed at about four times the rate of whites during arrests,, if one is looking for the relevance

but any of it is wrong, and all should unite to do something about it, especially since though it disproportionately impacts blacks during arrests,, it happens to all types of people


Really? The statistics posted above prove that. I understand your frustration and why you think the way you do and I may not always show it with everything I have been going through this past two years. I do respect you and I do apologize for anything I have said out of line.

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Fri 05/01/15 11:38 PM
I appreciate that. I dont ever expect everyone to agree but its nice when people try to understand.