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Topic: Oklahoma day care probed for drugging kids to get them to sl
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Sat 08/29/15 02:46 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/oklahoma-day-care-probed-drugging-kids-them-sleep-154324058.html

Oklahoma day care probed for drugging kids to get them to sleep
By Lenzy Krehbiel-Burton

TULSA, Okla. (Reuters) - A southeastern Oklahoma day care is under investigation for child abuse on suspicion of drugging children in its care, including those under a year old, to get them to sleep, police and state officials said on Friday.

A former employee of Sue’s Day Care in Durant, Oklahoma, tipped off the Oklahoma Department of Human Services and the Bryant County Sheriff's Office that the facility's owner was ordering workers to give infants liquid Benadryl, an over-the-counter allergy medicine, to help them go to sleep at nap time, they said

Officials from the day care center were not immediately available for comment.

According to dosage recommendations on its packaging, liquid Benadryl is not to be given to infants younger than one year old or children who weigh less than 20 pounds, unless specifically ordered by a doctor.

Along with severe drowsiness, overdose symptoms in children include seizures, vomiting, fever and rapid heartbeat.

Seven victims have been identified so far. None are thought to have sustained serious injuries, officials said.

Pending the completion of DHS investigation, the agency ordered the day care center to remain closed. As of Friday morning, no charges have been filed against its owner.

(Editing by Jon Herskovitz and Lisa Lambert)

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Sat 08/29/15 03:32 AM
this doesn't surprise me. I would bet stuff like this happens more then we know.

Imagine that... you drop your kid off and you think they are nice and safe and someone is giving them medicine without your consent or knowing the kids medical history.

Shut them down and charge whoever did it with endangering a child

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Sat 08/29/15 06:17 AM
Yeah, you know your local daycare is a little sketchy when at nap time your kid gets a personal pair of headphones, and they play Pink Floyd.....just sayin'

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Sat 08/29/15 06:43 AM
Also, more breaking news from Sue's Daycare in Durant Oklahoma....7 kids have had their allergies mysteriously disappear, film at 11!


But seriously, props to the parents for having enough will power to call authorities first instead of stomping a mudhole in the daycare workers azzes...

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Sat 08/29/15 06:51 AM
There is no telling what goes on in Daycare's I know we had one here that my grandson was actually going to. They were caught duct tapping the kids to their mats at rest time... A girl that was new saw it took pictures and contacted the parents..

My grandson was not one of them but I assure you he was pulled out of the daycare as fast as his mom found out...

There is a lot more abuse going on then most would even think of.. I'm glad my kids never had to go to daycare.. And now all of my grand kids are able to stay home with their moms...

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Sat 08/29/15 09:45 AM
Well common sense doesn't always prevail in these things. I mean, would you hire 'Scabs the Clown' for a children's party? Especially if his big trick is showing the kids his 'winky thing'??? lol

You get the idea though. SOME problems are obvious and can be avoided. Other situations you enter with the best of intentions and find out later something happens that you never saw coming.

Had an illegal daycare on my street a couple years ago. No one really knew the couple as they didn't socialize with anyone on the block. Parents would drive into the garage to drop kids off and pick them up. The only way we found out was a couple kids 'escaped' from the house when the wife would go for a power nap.

Cops were called by neighbor who finds the wandering tykes and the couple gets busted. Nothing evil was happening to the kids, the daycare was illegal and had no license or trained staff.

So hubby and the wife do the perp walk in cuffs down the driveway, and cops wind up interviewing everyone to see what we knew. They hid things pretty well apparently.

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Sat 08/29/15 04:16 PM
Does this qualify for the death penalty?

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Sat 08/29/15 04:33 PM

Does this qualify for the death penalty?


Death penalty??.. why would it qualify for the death penalty. A capital offense was not committed.

It does qualify as child abuse and child neglect. And certainly it qualifies for having the center shut down and all people involved held accountable by the fullest extent of the law.

It also qualifies that some parents maybe take a good hard look at themselves... as parents. Because those who dump their kids at the " storefront" day care centers or unlicensed centers are guilty as well.






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Sat 08/29/15 04:58 PM
I would not put my children in day care, except when I had no other alternative, for just this kind of stuff. Yea it is difficult biting the financial bullet but it was worth co-oping care with only family and close friends.


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Sat 08/29/15 06:19 PM
Oklahoma day care probed for drugging kids to get them to sleep

Is that really any different than parents giving their kids Ritalin or some other drug based on some sort of psychological reasoning?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/science/many-social-science-findings-not-as-strong-as-claimed-study-says.html?_r=0

What about sugar and caffeine? Sodas, diet sodas, honey boo boo's "go go juice," energy drinks, the candy aisle in any convenience store, cookies brought to school.

Ask anyone that tries to give up soda or coffee or energy drinks. People suffer withdrawals and have a hard time doing it, these things cause addiction.

And jesus, the FDA just approved oxycontin for kids older than 11.

Kids are freaking drugged everyday by pretty much everyone including themselves.

Even tapwater has drugs in it.

I just don't think this is that big of deal.

You give your kids to strangers whose only incentive is money, guess what, crap happens.


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Sat 08/29/15 06:38 PM
Edited by TMommy on Sat 08/29/15 06:41 PM
administering medication to a minor without written consent of parent? ya it's a big azz deal



when we were kids in school we had a school nurse and if you got sick
your tummy hurt or you had a head ache she could give you medicine and you got to lay down on a cot in office until your mom came to pick you up


now? if your child is on prescribed medication it must be turned over to the office upon entering the school building and your son/daughter must be monitored while taking the prescribed dosage and it may not be kept on his person or in his locker



oh and as far as getting on our 'high horse' about parents taking their children to daycare


I was a stay at home mom and the ONLY reason I could do this with my children is because my husband worked full time to provide


not all parents have this option
many are single parents who must work so that their child can eat

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Sat 08/29/15 08:33 PM

Oklahoma day care probed for drugging kids to get them to sleep

Is that really any different than parents giving their kids Ritalin or some other drug based on some sort of psychological reasoning?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/science/many-social-science-findings-not-as-strong-as-claimed-study-says.html?_r=0

What about sugar and caffeine? Sodas, diet sodas, honey boo boo's "go go juice," energy drinks, the candy aisle in any convenience store, cookies brought to school.

Ask anyone that tries to give up soda or coffee or energy drinks. People suffer withdrawals and have a hard time doing it, these things cause addiction.

And jesus, the FDA just approved oxycontin for kids older than 11.

Kids are freaking drugged everyday by pretty much everyone including themselves.

Even tapwater has drugs in it.

I just don't think this is that big of deal.

You give your kids to strangers whose only incentive is money, guess what, crap happens.




what..... whoa .......drinks .....

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Sun 08/30/15 02:42 AM

Oklahoma day care probed for drugging kids to get them to sleep

Is that really any different than parents giving their kids Ritalin or some other drug based on some sort of psychological reasoning?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/science/many-social-science-findings-not-as-strong-as-claimed-study-says.html?_r=0

What about sugar and caffeine? Sodas, diet sodas, honey boo boo's "go go juice," energy drinks, the candy aisle in any convenience store, cookies brought to school.

Ask anyone that tries to give up soda or coffee or energy drinks. People suffer withdrawals and have a hard time doing it, these things cause addiction.

And jesus, the FDA just approved oxycontin for kids older than 11.

Kids are freaking drugged everyday by pretty much everyone including themselves.

Even tapwater has drugs in it.

I just don't think this is that big of deal.

You give your kids to strangers whose only incentive is money, guess what, crap happens.




Nobody has the right to give your kids any kind of medicine without your prior consent.,, nobody. Unless it is a professional doctor who has the child under his care. They have absolutely no idea if anything in that medicine will have a adverse effect.

And in this particular case it was administered not for the child's well being, but for their advantage. ( make the kids go to sleep)

And day Care is a life line for many parents who have to work ( both of them) just to raise the family until the kid is of school age.


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Sun 08/30/15 03:02 AM
Very sad. Poor kids

It's a shame for some families that both parents have to work for the family to survive.




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Sun 08/30/15 05:37 AM

Very sad. Poor kids

It's a shame for some families that both parents have to work for the family to survive.






Yes. And this points to a sort of attendent issue about stories like this, which I will rather trollishly insert here, because I hope it might do a little good.

Whenever things like this come up, I as a Solutionist am always frustrated, because the story of action by authorities and onlookers always seems to end too soon.

The immediate error of giving medications without proper permission, training, authority and so on will be addressed. Criminal penalties, possibly out of proportion to the actual results of the acts will be ladled over the heads and lives of the "perpetrators," and the punishments may be decided more by the publicity, than by the actual laws and circumstances.

But nothing will be done to address the lack of cost-effective and competent childcare; or the fact that the most powerful people in the country are purposely continuing to work to drive down the ability of working people to afford such care; or the unwillingness of "public defenders" to ACTUALLY address the problems that they do so much self-righteous posturing about.

And most onlookers will walk away shaking their heads, and relaxing over the fact that this one dirty little mess has been "cleaned up," not really realizing that it is like putting an ice cube on a childs forehead to solve a fever.


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Sun 08/30/15 07:46 AM

this doesn't surprise me. I would bet stuff like this happens more then we know.

Imagine that... you drop your kid off and you think they are nice and safe and someone is giving them medicine without your consent or knowing the kids medical history.

Shut them down and charge whoever did it with endangering a child


it does, I have listened to alot of 'tricks' mothers used to get kids to sleep,, this happens to be one actually,,,,,,

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Sun 08/30/15 09:27 AM


this doesn't surprise me. I would bet stuff like this happens more then we know.

Imagine that... you drop your kid off and you think they are nice and safe and someone is giving them medicine without your consent or knowing the kids medical history.

Shut them down and charge whoever did it with endangering a child


it does, I have listened to alot of 'tricks' mothers used to get kids to sleep,, this happens to be one actually,,,,,,


Well, at least their not giving them Quaalude's and Toddy's.

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Sun 08/30/15 10:40 AM



this doesn't surprise me. I would bet stuff like this happens more then we know.

Imagine that... you drop your kid off and you think they are nice and safe and someone is giving them medicine without your consent or knowing the kids medical history.

Shut them down and charge whoever did it with endangering a child


it does, I have listened to alot of 'tricks' mothers used to get kids to sleep,, this happens to be one actually,,,,,,


Well, at least their not giving them Quaalude's and Toddy's.




no, now adays its xanax, or valuum,,,,lol

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Sun 08/30/15 11:42 AM
I would have thought the daycare would have gotten a consent form from the parent before accepting them into the daycare.

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Sun 08/30/15 11:55 AM

I would have thought the daycare would have gotten a consent form from the parent before accepting them into the daycare.



they would have but even if there was a signature it is not legally possible to consent to something that is not legal,,,,

so they may have signed something that gave the center permission to administer medical aid,, but not sleep aids.

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