Topic: Start a relationship with a white lie
Jimmy_roy's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:20 PM




Ah I see. This wasn't a little white lie he told in the beginning. He lied to her for a year. I wouldn't get back together with him either.

I understand that but still if we have to give him a chance what would be best way you feel


He lied to her for a year even though he was sure enough about her to get ready to propose. He didn't trust her and now she can't trust him. Trust is nearly impossible to regain. Sorry but I think they should part ways hopefully having learned a very important lesson.

Well sorry to hear that. I know he made a mistake but I feel his heart is in the right place so I support him.

Ruth34611's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:28 PM





Ah I see. This wasn't a little white lie he told in the beginning. He lied to her for a year. I wouldn't get back together with him either.

I understand that but still if we have to give him a chance what would be best way you feel


He lied to her for a year even though he was sure enough about her to get ready to propose. He didn't trust her and now she can't trust him. Trust is nearly impossible to regain. Sorry but I think they should part ways hopefully having learned a very important lesson.

Well sorry to hear that. I know he made a mistake but I feel his heart is in the right place so I support him.


Who knows, maybe they can work it out. :smile:

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Tue 07/26/16 08:33 PM
He went as far as to get a job and move to be near her just to meet her? I'm saying, creepy.
Then he kept up this white lie/ruse for a year?
no wonder she's rather angry with him...
If he's got lots of money, she should suck it up.. she might have a good life.
(How's that for PC beach?)


Jimmy_roy's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:41 PM






Ah I see. This wasn't a little white lie he told in the beginning. He lied to her for a year. I wouldn't get back together with him either.

I understand that but still if we have to give him a chance what would be best way you feel


He lied to her for a year even though he was sure enough about her to get ready to propose. He didn't trust her and now she can't trust him. Trust is nearly impossible to regain. Sorry but I think they should part ways hopefully having learned a very important lesson.

Well sorry to hear that. I know he made a mistake but I feel his heart is in the right place so I support him.


Who knows, maybe they can work it out. :smile:

I hope that too..and I will surely find a way to help him

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Tue 07/26/16 08:42 PM
Edited by SimpyComplicated on Tue 07/26/16 08:44 PM

Okay got lot of opinions in general, now let me bring the actual topic in light.
I was in LA for the weekend and I accidentally bumped into my long lost best friend. He looked very sad and gloomy so I asked him about it and he started telling me his problem.

He saw a lovely gal in a club and fell in love with her. He found out that she is a regular there so he started daily coming to that club just to met her and finally after 3 days he saw her again and approached her. Now he is a son of a very wealthy businessman and his ex was a gold digger so when this gal asked about him, he said that he is a poor guy who works as a waiter. He took a job in the same club, rented a room and starting hanging around this gal. They fell in love and as the relationship was getting serious, she found out about him and his dad from a magazine.
Now she wants to break the relationship as she feels cheated but all my friend wanted was true love and not another gold digger. She is not talking or listening to him and he is all sad and suicidal so I told him that I will help him. Any ideas

He needs to realise that he robbed her of the chance of getting to know him.
He would have to let her know that he realises that is what he has done and ask for forgiveness and a second chance.
The fact that he didn't know that she would react the way she has shows how tenuous our ability to know one an other is.

The fact that she is refusing to interact with him adds a degree of difficulty which may be over come with the assistance of third person but the main message to get to her is that he recognises that she has every right to feel betrayed no matter how justified he felt.

Jimmy_roy's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:43 PM

He went as far as to get a job and move to be near her just to meet her? I'm saying, creepy.
Then he kept up this white lie/ruse for a year?
no wonder she's rather angry with him...
If he's got lots of money, she should suck it up.. she might have a good life.
(How's that for PC beach?)



She is not a sucker for money thats why he loves her so much but good point to put forward laugh
you feel his methods were Creepy or romantic???

RustyKitty's photo
Tue 07/26/16 08:47 PM


He went as far as to get a job and move to be near her just to meet her? I'm saying, creepy.
Then he kept up this white lie/ruse for a year?
no wonder she's rather angry with him...
If he's got lots of money, she should suck it up.. she might have a good life.
(How's that for PC beach?)



She is not a sucker for money thats why he loves her so much but good point to put forward laugh
you feel his methods were Creepy or romantic???



very creepy

shineup's photo
Tue 07/26/16 09:10 PM

All depends on what the white lie was...

And how simple it was to me the term white lie is something that is like sure you look good in that..... no they don't hate you.... ect Sure I like your family....


To basic of a question....

If they are lying about cheating, prison or jail records and what they were in for then that is not a white lie..

White lies are normally those small things that is not bad just keeps from hurting your feelings... nothing major..

But....regardless starting off any relationship with any sort of lies is not good.. and will only bite you in the azz later..

Couldn't have said it any better

babykris6c's photo
Tue 07/26/16 09:13 PM
A lie is a lie. I appreciate honesty at all times.

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Tue 07/26/16 10:23 PM






seems you answered your own question here...

I know but this is the actual issue, how to make it work now


i would say --- don't lie... i see your point on his behalf, but it didn't get him anywhere, and even if she did get back with him, he would spend a lot of time still trying to figure out if shes a gold digger now... so was the price of lying worth a month or two of getting what he wanted when he could have had so much more?

but if she liked him without money, the only thing thats really changed is she knows he's a liar... he should pick up his ballsack and point that out to her, making her realize it was something he needed to do... but crying and threatening suicide won't help any whatsoever....

I told the same thing to him that suicide won't help and it is time to be a man. They were going out for a year and he was going to propose her so the feeling is very strong and he should fight for his love. Well I am also looking for ways to help him so I posted this thread.
we need more nice people like you...



I will second that


and I also feel if she were truly in love with him, this alone wouldn't have ended it


if she were truly in love he could explain it and she could try to understand it and move on


Id also be concerned of why she feels 'cheated'...as in not getting what she should have,,, if she was with him because she loved him it shouldn't feel like a 'cheat'


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Tue 07/26/16 10:33 PM
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Tue 07/26/16 11:01 PM


I will tell the whole incident later on but on a general note what you all think about a relationship which starts with a white lie?

White lie --> A lie told for a good/evaluation purpose


A lie is a lie, there is no "good" lie. It's deceit and trickery. If a relationship starts off on a white lie, it starts off on a lie, starts off on something that ain't true. So therefore how could the relationship be true?


I agree on this, very well said. But sometimes some people lie because they are afraid of losing you or being rejected or for some other reasons. But if a person is truly sorry for his lies, I would give him a chance to make things right. Not all lies are done with bad intentions, it depends on what grounds or reasons. Some people just want to be truly loved completely and others will do whatever it would cost them to have someone they want.

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Wed 07/27/16 12:00 AM
One thing that catches my attention, now that we have the actual story, is that it took this guy a FULL YEAR OF DATING to trust that the woman wasn't a gold digger.

I can understand going a few dates with someone without letting on that you are well off and worried.

But I know that if a woman were to lead me on for a YEAR, pretending to be on my own low wealth level, and then spring it on me that she was really rich (or in a rich family), and that she'd been faking who she really was THE WHOLE TIME, I would hit the streets for sure, and not look back.

I've had my experiences with people who think that it's their prerogative to shape MY thinking about them, and all those experiences have been negative. Especially the ones where I stayed around and tried to keep going.

For sure discourage suicide, but I would suspect that claiming to be that upset about it just shows your friend needs a lot of therapy, just to figure out where his own head is really at, before he EVER tries to find a mate through stealth.

His problem is NOT, as he thinks, that the world is full of gold-digging women, his problem is that he sees the world as a place where he has to play games and manipulate people in order to get what he wants. THAT is what is driving the woman away from him.

Jimmy_roy's photo
Wed 07/27/16 07:50 AM
Well as I mentioned he made some mistakes but that was in past. Now let us try to find a solution to the problem...how to approach the situation to help him

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Wed 07/27/16 08:38 AM
Edited by dolphin0925 on Wed 07/27/16 08:46 AM

Well as I mentioned he made some mistakes but that was in past. Now let us try to find a solution to the problem...how to approach the situation to help him


I believe he just did it because he's wary. It's normal for some people to be cautious, he's looking for someone to love him not because of his money. It was a mistake that he lied to the girl but if the girl really loved him she would understand him. For now maybe the girl is still mad at him , she felt betrayed but given a little time it will subside. If there's a third party, someone who's very closed to them both, he or she should be the one to explain to the girl why he did it, I am sure that she felt the love showered upon her by her boyfriend. Any girl would feel the sincerity of a man in love even if he lied somehow he would try to make it up to her to right the wrong. The gf should realize that. A close friend should convince the gf and help enlighten her mind. Or maybe you can do that yourself. You already know and better understand the situation, go and talk to her gf and see what happens. I have done that before with some of my friends who had relationship problems that's why I had been a maid of honor in the church wedding of my friend and a single witness to two of my friends secretly married and the other a civil wedding. Be a bridge to fill the gap:) you could be a big help:)

Jimmy_roy's photo
Wed 07/27/16 11:14 AM
Well I was looking for something cute. Like a sorry singing group or gift hunt. As I don't know the gal, it would be better to guide him to do cute stuff.

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Wed 07/27/16 11:17 AM


Well as I mentioned he made some mistakes but that was in past. Now let us try to find a solution to the problem...how to approach the situation to help him


I believe he just did it because he's wary. It's normal for some people to be cautious, he's looking for someone to love him not because of his money. It was a mistake that he lied to the girl but if the girl really loved him she would understand him. For now maybe the girl is still mad at him , she felt betrayed but given a little time it will subside. If there's a third party, someone who's very closed to them both, he or she should be the one to explain to the girl why he did it, I am sure that she felt the love showered upon her by her boyfriend. Any girl would feel the sincerity of a man in love even if he lied somehow he would try to make it up to her to right the wrong. The gf should realize that. A close friend should convince the gf and help enlighten her mind. Or maybe you can do that yourself. You already know and better understand the situation, go and talk to her gf and see what happens. I have done that before with some of my friends who had relationship problems that's why I had been a maid of honor in the church wedding of my friend and a single witness to two of my friends secretly married and the other a civil wedding. Be a bridge to fill the gap:) you could be a big help:)




that's a great idea flowerforyou

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Wed 07/27/16 01:56 PM
I dont know jimmy . I kinda think that the colour of a lie is only determined by the 2 people assessing it , and based upon their individual past experiences and their individual capacities to forgive/trust/move forward.

If a person has been deeply wounded by a lie/ lies prior to meeting their mate, then chances are they may perceive EVERY lie as dark and menacing ,no matter how good their mate's intention is.

And lets face it some people have less of a capacity to forgive, trust , and move forward from an offense committed than others.

There is no right or wrong here I think. Just a case of what the two people are willing and able to cope with from each other.

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Wed 07/27/16 02:48 PM
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Wed 07/27/16 04:53 PM
Take her to Disney World.....everyone I know wants to spend time there.....