Topic: Hillary for President Yah or Nah?
lonelyshorty's photo
Wed 01/23/08 04:21 PM
Edited by lonelyshorty on Wed 01/23/08 04:22 PM
i cannot support someone whos for abortion, whos going to take the military out of Iraq and ruin all the progress, and getting rid of the military is the STUPIDEST IDEA OF ALL TIME

damnitscloudy's photo
Wed 01/23/08 04:22 PM
Queen Hillary..? Um...nah, she needs to go back to the pits of hell where she came from, because shes not even human noway

no photo
Wed 01/23/08 05:46 PM
Not much support for Hillary if you read this thread. Me neither!!!

mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/23/08 07:26 PM
Another concern of mine
is that she gets emotional.

Like when she broke down
and almost cried in
New Hampshire.

She puts forth a
steely exterior most
of the time that appears
she's in control, but
I think she's marshmallow
underneath.

What will happen if
she's faced with a
real life-or-death
situation if she
becomes President?

Will she cry to Bill
and let him make the
decisions for her?

nuenjins's photo
Wed 01/23/08 07:41 PM
How can someone run the country when their own household has a reputation for being in disorder. The whole concept of being a leader on family issues and leading the country without having working values in your own back yard is contradictory.

mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:03 PM
'Let those who
are without sin
cast the first stone...'

I have nothing against
Hillary personally.

I'm sure she's a wonderful
mother, cares about her
family and the country
as well.

I just don't think she'd
make a good President.

laughingdog's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:06 PM
why not... surely she couldn't be any worse than the one we have right now

BetterDazes's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:07 PM
Damn, I just spit coffee all over my screen. Stop trying to scare me ok?

That's a resounding NO, in case you were wondering =)

mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:11 PM
I agree that she probably
couldn't do more damage
to the country than
Shrub.

tsw123's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:20 PM
If she wins the nomination, I will vote for her. btw, what happened to the angry girl? Wanted to tell her that God should always be capitalized. Would have thought she would have known that...

mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:31 PM
Ah, yes. missblndie

I agreed with a lot
of the points she made.

There is a morality
problem in this country.

I think it is something
that can't be legislated
or put in the Constitution,
it has to be handled in
the family and community.

The most serious problem
I see is fatherless children.

Meaning, there are a lot
of men who father children
who don't take responsibility
for them.

Without discipline, the child
grows up angry, and turns to
crime.

tsw123's photo
Wed 01/23/08 08:55 PM

Ah, yes. missblndie

I agreed with a lot
of the points she made.

There is a morality
problem in this country.

I think it is something
that can't be legislated
or put in the Constitution,
it has to be handled in
the family and community.

The most serious problem
I see is fatherless children.

Meaning, there are a lot
of men who father children
who don't take responsibility
for them.

Without discipline, the child
grows up angry, and turns to
crime.


Hmmm, I didn't agree with anything she said at all, but maybe it was the tone that distracted from the points. Sure, there is a morality problem, but you are right in that isn't the governments problem to correct. It is a problem that needs to be addressed within the family, and community if need be. Political figures should be focused on running the government, not ensuring that a family shares their moral or religious views. I, personally, would never vote for anyone that thought otherwise.

As for fatherless children, I have raised my children on my on, and they are happy, healthy and productive individuals. I think that single parent homes can be just as nurturing, most certainly more so than dysfunctional two parent homes, and can definitely provide a positive influence on children. I think that guidance, structure, and open communication, not necessarily discipline, is the key to instilling a sense of morality in kids. I do agree though that many men, women too, don't take responsibility for their kids, but as you said, it's not an issue to be legislated.


mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/23/08 09:07 PM
I suppose it depends
on the situation,
but would you agree
that there are societal
problems caused by
fathers not being
there for their children,
that this can lead to
anger issues, which
in turn can lead to
more serious problems?

mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/23/08 09:09 PM
I'm talking about
the father being
involved in the
child's life,
whether he's
physically in
the home or not.

tsw123's photo
Thu 01/24/08 04:45 AM

I suppose it depends
on the situation,
but would you agree
that there are societal
problems caused by
fathers not being
there for their children,
that this can lead to
anger issues, which
in turn can lead to
more serious problems?


Yes, I agree with that. I also know of plenty of good fathers who have always been there for their children, but yet the kids get into trouble later anyway. Peer pressure is a big factor in that. But yes, basically I agree.

zippyfear's photo
Thu 01/24/08 01:25 PM

Another concern of mine
is that she gets emotional.

Like when she broke down
and almost cried in
New Hampshire.

She puts forth a
steely exterior most
of the time that appears
she's in control, but
I think she's marshmallow
underneath.

What will happen if
she's faced with a
real life-or-death
situation if she
becomes President?

Will she cry to Bill
and let him make the
decisions for her?


Are you serious? you think that was real? She didn't shed a tear when the WTC was attacked.. but you think she's really crying because campaigning is so very hard?

Poor Hillary.. living on the road and eating pizza every day (yeah right.. )

I wonder what would happen if any of the other candidates broke down because it's so hard. Let's see Obama cry and see what happens..

mnhiker's photo
Thu 01/24/08 08:54 PM
It wouldn't work
for Obama because
men aren't allowed
to cry in public.

But, yeah, I think
they were probably
crocodile tears
Hillary was shedding.

SteveX33's photo
Sun 01/27/08 02:25 AM
She is smarter and has a better command of the issues than any Republican in the race! She also has first hand experience in the exec branch.

Sure, she is a pragmatist and won't win the profiles in courage award, but that's what's required to get things done in this country. Idealist, historically don't fare very well. While she may not be the most dynamic canidate, she is probably the best prepared.

As far as the sexist crying thing, she didn't even cry. She got a little choked up. I think Bush was crying when he was reading My Pet Goat while we were under attack. All President's have cried in recent years. Bush scored major points with his tears.

But what a double standard when it's a woman. I think she's proven her toughness. She's been accused of everything from being a multi murder to a lesbian and she still keeps fighting the good fight. Most other politicians could never stand up to the kind of scrutiny and venoumous attacks she has.

And all the people on this thread can say is they don't like her. There is no supporting reasons to anything I've read on this thread. People just buy the dope the righ wing echo machine puts on her. Like Hillary care and all this other BS. None of the has any basis in reality.

I like Obama, but I'm not sure he will be able to stand up to all the racist crap the repubs will be bringing his way. I think it's funny how all the Repugs are singing his praises. I think they want him to win because they can play there same wedge politics and divide through racial polarazation.

I'm still not sure. I may change to Obama, because I don't think Senator Clinton will be able to get a fair shake in the media.

The media has ADD and they are tired of the whole Clinto story. They want to move on, and it shows. It showed in NH when they all but said whe was dead.

The truth is, she still has a higher probability of winning. The establishment canidate always does. I just hope some people who have negative perceptions of Clinton will aks themselves, is it really worse than continuting the policies of Bush? Mccain is Bush on steroids as far as Iraq goes.

OrangeCat's photo
Sun 01/27/08 02:34 AM
na they need to stop electing these rich idiots,where all the probs come from

no photo
Sun 01/27/08 03:51 AM
Edited by leahmarie on Sun 01/27/08 03:58 AM
Brandon....

If Hillary is a yah, I will scream sad

I will also get so angry my face will turn red mad

I will also get so upset I will turn blue :angry:

I will also get so sad I will cry :cry:

I will also get bug eyed and say no way noway

I can only be bored to think of Hillary as president yawn

I will also turn green, because I will be so sick sick

Let's hope those who vote "Nah" will prevail! drinker