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Fri 06/27/08 04:52 PM
We had a thunderstorm with a lot of wind last night. I went out this morning to pick up limbs that were blown off the pecan trees.
As I bent down to pick a small limb up I saw two little worms crawling along....one of them stopped and the other crawled on!!

Later in the day I was visitimg relatives out in the country. My cousin and I were out in the pasture admiring his horses. WE noticed two rabbits hopping along....one of them stopped and the other one hopped on!!

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Fri 06/27/08 04:41 PM
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Fri 06/27/08 04:31 PM
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Fri 06/27/08 04:28 PM
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Fri 06/27/08 02:34 PM

Here is what I gather. What do you think Atheism is?



"Atheism is a religion", for some strange reason, is often used by theists to criticise non-believers. A couple of examples from my email and guestbook:

"Do you have a belief that atheism is true? If no, then you're lying, if yes, then you are acting on faith. If you don't believe in God, you must believe in something or someone else. An atheist doesn't simply lack positive belief in God. The atheist has positive belief in the non-existence of God."

"The Religion of Atheism is for the totally unrational person, which is why Atheists account for less that 10% of the population. There are Ulterior Motives to Atheism, namely : Admitting the obvious of an INtelligent Creator introduces accountability and someone who is bigger and more important than oneself ...and, it impedes on the present less than desirable and/or immoral (incl. sexually, in most cases) lifestyle that the Atheist has chosen for himself. Both of these can be summarized by Pride."

It seems odd for a follower of a faith to try to attack atheism by saying it is also a faith. I think the reasoning is that if atheism is a faith or religion, then atheists have no cause to criticise other faiths or religions. One flaw in this argument is that if atheism were indeed a religion, then theists would have no reason to criticise atheism being taught in schools as part of religious education, or even the setting up of atheist-run schools alongside Baptist, Catholic and Muslim schools.

Somehow, I think voices may be raised in protest should that happen. =)

Alternatively, the idea is that atheists are hypocrites for attacking the faithful when atheism itself is a result of faith.

However, the big problem is this :

ATHEISM IS NOT A RELIGION OR A FAITH!

Atheism, by definition, is the absence of theism. If you cannot say "I believe in a Deity/God/Supreme Being" then you are an atheist. If you are not a theist, then you are an atheist.

As mentioned in the Introduction page, there is a subtle but important difference between "believing there is no God", and "not believing there is a God". The first is a belief, the second is a lack of that belief. I don't know any atheists who "believe" God (take your pick, there are plenty) does not exist. All the atheists I know simply do not believe God does exist.

There is a big difference between positively believing that a thing does not exist, and simply lacking belief in it's existence. In many cases, atheists will say "That God does not exist", not because they choose to do so, but because, from the description of the God, it cannot exist due to contradictory attributes. In the same way that a square circle cannot (and therefore does not) exist, a God defined as (for example) all-knowing, yet cannot see into the future, cannot and does not exist because the definition is self-contradictory. If you describe your God with self-contradicting attributes which make it logically impossible, then I may safely say that such a thing does not exist as described. This is not faith - this is reason.

If someone asked you about unicorns, would you say "I believe there are no unicorns", or would it be more honest to say "I do not believe in unicorns"? These are two different answers. Nobody disbelieves in unicorns purely as a matter of personal faith.

Again, apply the same reasoning to the Gods of other religions. Example : if you are a Christian, do you believe the Hindu God Ganesh does not exist? Or do you not believe in Ganesh?

If you believe that unicorns do not exist, then may I say that you a member of the "No unicorns" religion? Is it a matter of faith that unicorns do not exist? Can I come along to your non-unicorn church with you tomorrow?

If you are a Christian, do you believe Ganesh does not exist? Why, then you must be a devout follower of the "No Ganesh" faith!

Do you see where this is going? [ Sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit, but it's excellent for getting a point across.

If me not believing in your God is a faith, then you not believing in other Gods is an equal faith. How many Christians do you know who would say they do not believe in other Gods as a matter of faith?

If my atheism with respect to your deity is a religion, then your atheism with respect to other deities is also a religion.

How does atheism differ from religion and faith? Let me count the ways...
The following is usually yes for theists and no for atheists.

Belief in God(s)
Prayer
Churches / temples
Holy Book / Scripture
Priests / religious leaders
Belief in supernatural (including angels / devils)
Miracles
Afterlife
Holy wars
Heaven / Hell
Lifestyle restrictions (dress, diet, marriage etc. etc.)
Belief without evidence (faith as a virtue)
Belief despite conflicting evidence
Supernatural origins of universe and / or humans
Murderous fundamentalist extremists
Annoying street / doorstep preachers
The soul
Regular ceremonies / acts of worship
Sin
Blasphemy
We are God's chosen people


Atheism is neither religion nor faith, but the happy freedom from them. Declaring it to be otherwise, sadly, will not make it so.

Would you agree?



I don't know if atheism is a religion or not. But I have noticed that quite a few atheists spend a good bit of time in this religeon forum.

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Fri 06/27/08 02:09 PM
A woman playing golf was stung by a bee. She went to the club house and told the pro, "I was stung by one of your bees'". The pro asked, "where did you get stung?" She said between the first and second hole".

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Fri 06/27/08 11:03 AM
Cybear, thank you for your service to our country.

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Fri 06/27/08 10:42 AM
You ladies may enjoy this....and men, it may be helpful to you.

http://www.womenco.com/videos/188-dimitri-the-stud-or-how-to-get-a-woman-to-not-call-you-back

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Wed 06/25/08 10:52 PM
Welcome to my worldflowerforyou happy laugh

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Wed 06/25/08 10:14 AM
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Wed 06/25/08 09:59 AM




What if the very God you are worshipping, whatever the religious belief you believe in, is actually the very God that wanted the destruction of the human race.

Now I know some of you will say impossible, yet think about it for a moment. The very God you believe in and dedicated your whole life and faith into is the very God that actually wanted the destruction of the human race!

And

the very God that actually preserved your life and allowed it to flourish on this planet is the very God everyone is not paying attention to like suppose to be.

If this were to be true as a fact how would you redeem your thoughts and ways? How would you correct what you didn't certainly know but believed it to be true?

This question is for those who believe in a God or greater being, which is about 5 billion people on this planet. Correct?







what human believe what they do without EACH having a UNIQUE, one in 6 1/2 billion rare experience......

what EACH believe then is UNIQUE also, if each mind has been programmed as a ONE-OF-A-KIND, and why the truth MUST be ONE TRUTH that show HOW and WHY each believe what they do, and what truth it originated from.....

anything that is shown by EVIDENCE of feeling, hearing or seeing, the MIND will believe it, as what man has made himself to CHOOSE WHAT HE BELIEVE, as the reaction of all others has been input into it, which is what EACH has drawn "HALF" of all logic formed from.......

these things cannot be disputed by the UNIQUE mind of EACH that has seen all it has seen, so EACH has divinitiy in the heart.....not to say tomarrow is not going to unfold NEW things heard and seen, lol......

the mortal expereince is by nature one that "TRICK" a being into believing today what it did not yesterday, but if one see another as the one NOW tricked, then this be proof one has fallen prey to the oldest trick in the universe themself........NOTHING IS REAL UNTIL A POINT OF REFERENCE OR COMPARISON IS CREATED, SO WHAT IS NEXT FOR EACH THAT HOLD TRUE TO A BELIEF AND SEE NOT THAT THE TRUTH CHANGE EACH SECOND......ALL THINGS HEARD AND SPOKEN CONTAIN TRUTH, THEN WE HAVE FOUND ALL WISDOM, AND THE TRUTH CAN BE MADE KNOWN AT ALL TIMES, AND NO TRICKERY CAN DECIEVE AGAIN, LOL.......



My, how the heathen do rage and imagine vain things!!!!


And my how quickly christian's judge others for using their brains and thinking for themselves.


Not judging, just observing.
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Tue 06/24/08 09:55 PM


What if the very God you are worshipping, whatever the religious belief you believe in, is actually the very God that wanted the destruction of the human race.

Now I know some of you will say impossible, yet think about it for a moment. The very God you believe in and dedicated your whole life and faith into is the very God that actually wanted the destruction of the human race!

And

the very God that actually preserved your life and allowed it to flourish on this planet is the very God everyone is not paying attention to like suppose to be.

If this were to be true as a fact how would you redeem your thoughts and ways? How would you correct what you didn't certainly know but believed it to be true?

This question is for those who believe in a God or greater being, which is about 5 billion people on this planet. Correct?







what human believe what they do without EACH having a UNIQUE, one in 6 1/2 billion rare experience......

what EACH believe then is UNIQUE also, if each mind has been programmed as a ONE-OF-A-KIND, and why the truth MUST be ONE TRUTH that show HOW and WHY each believe what they do, and what truth it originated from.....

anything that is shown by EVIDENCE of feeling, hearing or seeing, the MIND will believe it, as what man has made himself to CHOOSE WHAT HE BELIEVE, as the reaction of all others has been input into it, which is what EACH has drawn "HALF" of all logic formed from.......

these things cannot be disputed by the UNIQUE mind of EACH that has seen all it has seen, so EACH has divinitiy in the heart.....not to say tomarrow is not going to unfold NEW things heard and seen, lol......

the mortal expereince is by nature one that "TRICK" a being into believing today what it did not yesterday, but if one see another as the one NOW tricked, then this be proof one has fallen prey to the oldest trick in the universe themself........NOTHING IS REAL UNTIL A POINT OF REFERENCE OR COMPARISON IS CREATED, SO WHAT IS NEXT FOR EACH THAT HOLD TRUE TO A BELIEF AND SEE NOT THAT THE TRUTH CHANGE EACH SECOND......ALL THINGS HEARD AND SPOKEN CONTAIN TRUTH, THEN WE HAVE FOUND ALL WISDOM, AND THE TRUTH CAN BE MADE KNOWN AT ALL TIMES, AND NO TRICKERY CAN DECIEVE AGAIN, LOL.......



My, how the heathen do rage and imagine vain things!!!!

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Tue 06/24/08 09:26 PM
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Sun 06/22/08 02:51 PM
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Wed 06/18/08 01:20 PM
I'm seriously sillyhappy

Seriously, just kidding.


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Wed 06/18/08 09:09 AM
An old man, a boy and a donkey, were going to town. The boy rode on the donkey and the old man walked.

As they went along they passed some people who remarked it was a shame the old man was walking and the boy was riding.

The man and boy thought maybe the critics were right, so they changed positions.

Then, later, they passed some people who remarked, 'What a shame, he makes that little boy walk.'
So they then decided they'd both walk!

Soon they passed some more people who thought they were stupid to walk when they had a decent donkey to ride.

So, they both rode the donkey.

Now they passed some people who shamed them by saying how awful to put such a load on a poor donkey.

The boy and man figured they were probably right, so they decide to carry the donkey.

As they crossed the bridge, they lost their grip on the animal and he fell into the river and drowned.

The moral of the story?

If you try to please everyone, you might as well...

...Kiss your ass goodbye!


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Tue 06/17/08 09:45 PM
"When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore.

So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love."

Rebecca- age 8


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"When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different.
You just know that your name is safe in their mouth."

Billy - age 4


"Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your French fries without making them give you any of theirs."

Chrissy - age 6


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"Love is what makes you smile when you're tired."

Terri - age 4


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"Love is when my mommy makes coffee for my daddy and she takes a sip before giving it to him, to make sure the taste is OK."

Danny - age 7


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"Love is when you kiss all the time. Then when you get tired of kissing, you still want to be together and you talk more.
My Mommy and Daddy are like that. They look gross when they kiss"

Emily - age 8


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"Love is what's in the room with you at Christmas if you stop opening presents and listen."

Bobby - age 7 (Wow!)


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"If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate,"

Nikka - age 6
(we need a few million more Nikka's on this planet)


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"Love is when you tell a guy you like his shirt, then he wears it everyday."

Noelle - age 7


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"Love is like a little old woman and a little old man who are still friends even after they know each other so well."

Tommy - age 6


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"During my piano recital, I was on a stage and I was scared. I looked at all the people watching me and saw my daddy waving and smiling.

He was the only one doing that. I wasn't scared anymore."

Cindy - age 8


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"My mommy loves me more than anybody

You don't see anyone else kissing me to sleep at night."

Clare - age 6


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"Love is when Mommy gives Daddy the best piece of chicken."

Elaine-age 5


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"Love is when Mommy sees Daddy smelly and sweaty and still says he is handsomer than Robert Redford."

Chris - age 7


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"Love is when your puppy licks your face even after you left him alone all day."

Mary Ann - age 4


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"I know my older sister loves me because she gives me all her old clothes and has to go out and buy new ones."

Lauren - age 4


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"When you love somebody, your eyelashes go up and down and little stars come out of you." (what an image)

Karen - age 7


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"You really shouldn't say 'I love you' unless you mean it. But if you mean it, you should say it a lot. People forget."

Jessica - age 8


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And the final one -- Author and lecturer Leo Buscaglia once talked about a contest he was asked to judge.

The purpose of the contest was to find the most caring child.

The winner was a four year old child whose next door neighbor was an elderly gentleman who had recently lost his wife.

Upon seeing the man cry, the little boy went into the old gentleman's yard, climbed onto his lap, and just sat there.

When his Mother asked what he had said to the neighbor, the little boy said,

"Nothing, I just helped him cry"


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Mon 06/16/08 09:54 PM
'We were all created equal.' Beautiful words, but untrue in so many ways.
Ask the person who was born into slavery, one who was born with a drug addiction, with physical or mental handicaps. Explain to one who is born in poverty and is always hungry, not just for food but also hungry for all the basic necessities of life - how they were created equal to all of us here who have never known real hunger.

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Mon 06/16/08 11:10 AM
Remember the chinese author, had a best seller- 'Spots on The Wall', Hu Flung Cum

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Mon 06/16/08 10:48 AM
A woman goes into a sporting goods store to buy a rod and reel for her grandson's birthday. She doesn't know which one to get so she just grabs one and goes over to the counter.

A store's associate is standing there wearing dark shades.

She says, 'Excuse me, sir. Can you tell me anything about this rod and reel ?'

He says, 'Ma'am, I'm completely blind; but if you'll drop it on the counter, I can tell you everything from the sound it makes.'

She doesn't believe him but drops it on the counter anyway.

He says, 'That's a six-foot Shakespeare graphite rod with a Zebco 404 reel and 10-LB. Test line. It's a good all around combination; and it's on sale this week for only $20.00.'

She says, 'It's amazing that you can tell all that just by the sound of it dropping on the counter. I'll take it !'

As she opens her purse, her credit card drops on the floor.

"Oh, that sounds like a Master Card," he says.

She bends down to pick it up and accidentally farts. At first she is really embarrassed, but then realizes there is no way the blind clerk could tell it was she who tooted. Being blind, he couldn't know that she was the only person around.

But the man rings up the sale and says, 'That'll be $34.50 please.'

The woman is totally confused by this and asks, 'Didn't you just tell me the rod and reel were on sale for $20.00 ? How did you get $34.50 ?'

He replies, 'Yes, Ma'am. The rod and reel is $20.00, but the Duck Call is $11.00 and the Catfish Bait is $3.50.


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