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Tue 12/06/11 04:49 PM



@ singme

What do you believe the Hamas is trying to do when they launch rockets into Israel?
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It's called resistance...the same way the IRA resisted British Rule in Ireland.

They are launching rockets from the largest open prison on the Planet





What are they resisting?


Their imprisonment

Their subjugation

Their humiliation

The Strip searching

Simple lack of freedom of movement

shall I continue or do you refuse to see the injustice


If terrorists are in prison it is because they have comitted a crime and they have been convicted. Prisoners are treated very well in Israeli jails, given 3 Halal meals a day and education to gain qualifications.

People are searched at checkpoints coming into Israel of course - it is obvious why, and sometimes attacks on Israeli soldiers happen at these checkpoints.

If someone is strip searched there is probably a good reason for it as of course a person may be concealing something.

Arabs in Israel are free with movement. In fact it is Jews who are under threat from arabs with intermittent attacks by rock throwing, stabbings etc. It is the Jews who are not free to move as freely as they would like without taking regard of the threat from the arabs there.

There are no-go areas in Israel for Jews who should not have to face danger like they do. That is the problem - if the arabs can live in peace with the Jews then all will be well. However they don't and so just perpetuate the situation. Not all arabs of course. Most live happily and work happily alongside the Jews and there are even some arabs in the Israeli army. Not all arabs are violent to Jews - just a small minority, but enough to cause the problems.

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Tue 12/06/11 04:27 PM

@ singme

What do you believe the Hamas is trying to do when they launch rockets into Israel?
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It's called resistance...the same way the IRA resisted British Rule in Ireland.

They are launching rockets from the largest open prison on the Planet





What are they resisting?

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Tue 12/06/11 04:12 PM

The occupied, oppressed lands of the everyday 9/11s will not be free until the reason why they are occupied and oppressed is openly discussed


If you are talking about Gaza and PA controlled West Bank - they are not occupied by Israel.

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Tue 12/06/11 03:39 PM
Edited by 5apphire on Tue 12/06/11 03:50 PM


Still no one will answer my very simple questions to back up their claims.

Where in the world now are Jews being persecuted and how are they being persecuted?

Where are they even being legally discriminated against?

Are they refused entry to a college?
Are they forbidden to marry a non-Jew?
Are the forbidden to own property or buy a house?

Where?




This thread isn't about any on those things. This thread is about love for Jews. If you don't love Jews or you think all they are is big whiners, then please start your own thread. Nothing but love for the Jews here. L'Chaim! drinker


Ok, who loves Jewish people.

1, Spidercmb
2, 5apphire
3,

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Tue 12/06/11 03:23 PM


Israel's celebrations for its 63 birthday last May. Particularly good from 1 hour 4 minutes onwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5epx_rG08I


Still waiting for a Questiondrinker


Watch the above video while I think of one

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Tue 12/06/11 03:07 PM
Israel's celebrations for its 63 birthday last May. Particularly good from 1 hour 4 minutes onwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5epx_rG08I

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Tue 12/06/11 03:01 PM



It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians"


Again for the third time in the last week, I would love to know how "Israel is oppressing the arabs who live in Israel."


Is this is an example of one of your Questions?

If it is in relation to my post them I never mentioned Arabs.


Arabs are what others call Palestinians.

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Tue 12/06/11 03:00 PM
Seems it is not too safe in Brooklyn either for Jews. Scandinavia isn't that friendly to Jews. There are anti-semetic attacks here in the UK too. Thank goodness my daughters in Israel know some krav maga although they haven't had a chance to use it yet. No-one will mess with them and come away with their faculties!

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Tue 12/06/11 02:53 PM




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MzZ1ItF-Jw




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Tue 12/06/11 02:41 PM

Sorrydrinker


See WoW I have No Problem with putting my hands up when wrongdrinker


Ah so you admit that was a mistake but when asked questions you ignore them, and also you are obviously wrong in lots of your posts on here. Still it passes the time for me on these threads when I need a break and also is quite entertaining, and rather amusing too.

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Tue 12/06/11 02:19 PM






It doesn't matter what people ask you. You're likely to dance around the question and not actually provide an answer. This has been shown several times here.


I don't think I have been asked a direct Question on here.

People assume most of the time.

I have been very clear in my opinion.


rofl

That's your excuse for not answering questions? Because you believe they weren't direct questions? Really?!?!

rofl


Rolling Heads do not annoy me........


I just think they are childlike in the wrong placedrinker

Listening to Eddie Vedder

I will come for you at nighttime
I will raise you from your sleep
I will kiss you in four places
As I go running along your street
I will squeeze the life out of you
You will make me laugh and make me cry
And we will never forget it
You will make me call your name
And I'll shout it to the blue summer sky
And we may never meet again
So shed your skin and let's get started
And you will throw your arms around medrinker


offtopic

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Tue 12/06/11 02:10 PM




It doesn't matter what people ask you. You're likely to dance around the question and not actually provide an answer. This has been shown several times here.


I don't think I have been asked a direct Question on here.

People assume most of the time.

I have been very clear in my opinion.


I asked you two questions on this page alone. You are clear in your opinion - all too clear in fact.

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Tue 12/06/11 01:48 PM



Where have you been all Day

Or are you the COMPANYS night Shiftdrinker laugh



The Company???
Poor Souls believe we belong to some Global Clandestine Organization!rofl


It's the sort of comments I have come to expect from them based on my knowledge of other sites, so this one is no different.

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Tue 12/06/11 01:43 PM

Where have you been all Day

Or are you the COMPANYS night Shiftdrinker laugh



The Company???

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Tue 12/06/11 01:37 PM

It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians"


Again for the third time in the last week, I would love to know how "Israel is oppressing the arabs who live in Israel."

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Tue 12/06/11 01:06 PM




Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.


It's even more absurd for Israel to fund the Palestinian Authority who commits terror against it!


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Tue 12/06/11 01:02 PM

14 days to Hanukkah you guys! From December 20-28, Jews the world over will be celebrating the Festival of Lights.



Adam Sandler - Hanukkah Song


This link works, but it's Neil Diamond (a better singer than Adam Sandler!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOegH4uYe-c

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Tue 12/06/11 12:03 PM



Israel is being Destroyed From Within


Being that the British are responsible for f**king up the region I say that they allow all the arabs free passage and citizenship anywhere in the United Kingdom..

I am sure you would be more than willing to accept these people and allow them to flourish without being under the boot of the evil zionist.

Hamas running Belfast.. That would be pretty sweet..

Just so you know... Hamas loves liberals/progressives..




What is wrong with you people.

Hamas was elected and verified by INTERNATIONAL OBSERVERS

The Company had to talk to the IRA and they are talking to Hamas.

Northern Ireland is the nearest one can compare with Palestine.

We know about segregation and Bullies.

We understand what Palestinians feel and endure at the hands of tyrants


The arabs wanted Gaza and they have it. They are ruled by tyrants called Hamas. It's the innocent arabs in Gaza I feel sorry for having to deal with life under Hamas.

FREE GAZA



















FROM HAMAS

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Tue 12/06/11 11:38 AM






Ah you mean I don't believe conspiracy theories. Most people look for facts, others try to find lies and conspiracies wherever they go. I go by speaking to family who survived, and by listening to talks from concentration camp survivors. Coupled with testimonies and news broadcasts. If you disagree with all the above, then that is because it suits your agenda to discredit the truth.


I have spoken to Dr Hajo Meyer an Auschwitz survivor but he is one of those Jews you Hate Right?

You are, what you accuse me of being...Right?
The Hell you met him!:laughing:


Chomsky too! In his post of 27 November - Cost of Israel to the Americans!!! WOW - I hope he washed and disinfected his hand well!

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Tue 12/06/11 11:15 AM

I think that it is the Zionists that hate themselves.

Think About ityawn


On the contrary, I have found Zionists (i.e., those who believe in Israel's right to exist), the least hateful people there are. Those who do not believe in Israel's right to exist are the hateful ones.

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