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Thu 09/10/15 04:48 AM

In my life Stress has been a bad thing and lately I have had a ton of it.At my point in life I have learned to deal with it and not let it beat you because in reality it can kill you if you let it.


it can. that's why it's important to be able to cope and have a support system when needed.

many have taken their lives or at least attempted to because of it...

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Thu 09/10/15 04:36 AM
Edited by Pansytilly on Thu 09/10/15 04:43 AM
i found one of the core studies used! biggrin


http://acestudy.org/files/Review_of_ACE_Study_with_references_summary_table_2_.pdf

The Health and Social Impact of Growing Up With Adverse Childhood Experiences
The Human and Economic Costs of the Status Quo


edited to add

http://www.k12.wa.us/institutionaled/pubdocs/HighCostofAdverseChildhoodExperiences-Kelley.pdf

THE HIGH COST OF ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES

http://ccf.ny.gov/files/4713/8262/2276/ACE_BriefTwo.pdf

Adverse Childhood Experiences among New York’s Adults

http://research.wsulibs.wsu.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/2376/4210/j_douglas_010491750.pdf?sequence=1

EFFECTS OF CHILDHOOD MALTREATMENT ON EXECUTIVE FUNCTION IN ADOLESCENTS AND YOUNG ADULTS 11 TO 24 YEARS OF AGE


hope these sources are enough, ladywind

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Thu 09/10/15 04:15 AM


Smiley face but no question mark
So let me guess ...

An ability to read fine, fine print
On pages, light and easily torn ...
But not asunder
Under a Yoruba roof
Where Crown meets Wealth
And she, bedecked in
Buba
Iro
Gele
Iborun
Ipele
Shall reside as Monarch...

Juliet, Juliet, wherefore art thou
Oh Noble Woman?




She died a noble death
When she saw who she was betrothed to



laugh

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Thu 09/10/15 04:08 AM

I have noticed behavior problem can come from the poor to the rich all walk of life all environments. child abuse may never end. we inherit the sins of our parents. there can only be more awareness compassion understanding and forgiveness.


this ^^ is a blanket statement.

"awareness, compassion, understanding and forgiveness" almost always elicits a "positive" response but can actually be interpreted differently.

in light of the topic, the terms you have chosen to use above SHOULD raise the question of whether you will accept behavioral problems and issues as such AND turn a blind eye to allow them to continue or worsen, OR raise the bar to do something to alleviate the problems and find a solution based on the premise of the topic.

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Thu 09/10/15 03:29 AM

It is all very interesting.
Some adopted children who are loved and nurtured can exhibit the same destructive behavioural patterns of their estranged genetic parents too.


apparently. that is how ancestral experiences can cause gene expression of aggression is explained. but i believe this would mean that it is something that has gradually expressed itself over a long period of time, unless it is a spontaneous or induced-accelerated mutation.

it also implies that extra effort is needed in order to modify the gene expression into non-aggression, which will again be a function of time and environment.

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that is why this statement is included in the original posting

With lack of proper intervention, and in an environment that accepts or encourages such behavior as normal, this causes permanent neural connections that solidifies such behavior as adults that can be passed down thru the generations as part of epigenetic theory of heredity.



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Thu 09/10/15 02:54 AM
Edited by Pansytilly on Thu 09/10/15 03:04 AM
i have only made a quick glance on each article and website. i have not appraised the content but they seem credible. no wikipedia here...laugh

these are introductions to the relation of epigenetics to and from heredity, psychology and behavior.

i will post ones on specific issues stated as i find them. waving



http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/

WHAT IS EPIGENETICS?

http://www.theguardian.com/science/occams-corner/2014/apr/25/epigenetics-beginners-guide-to-everything

Epigenetics 101: a beginner’s guide to explaining everything

http://nobaproject.com/modules/epigenetics-in-psychology

Epigenetics in Psychology


http://www.psicothema.com/pdf/4072.pdf

Epigenetics and its implications for Psychology

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/manage-your-stress/201207/the-influence-and-epigenetics

The Influence Of, And On, Epigenetics

http://champagnelab.psych.columbia.edu/docs/champ23.pdf

Behavioral epigenetics: A new frontier in the study of hormones and behavior

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/brain/

Epigenetics and the Human Brain

http://www.nature.com/subjects/epigenetics-and-behaviour

Epigenetics and behaviour

http://bioscience.oxfordjournals.org/content/61/8/588.full

Behavioral Epigenetics: How Nurture Shapes Nature

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063335/

A twin approach to unraveling epigenetics


personally...i think environment (nurture) is more determinant than arbitrary genetics (nature) to determine the kind of person one is and how society can choose to become "moral" or not. that is what God-given free will is about.

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Thu 09/10/15 02:26 AM


I will need time to search for them.
These are notes I have from discussions on convention lectures I was able to attend.


Fair enough, I am patient.




Thank you for your interest. I really appreciate it. flowerforyou

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Thu 09/10/15 02:12 AM
I will need time to search for them.
These are notes I have from discussions on convention lectures I was able to attend.

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Thu 09/10/15 12:29 AM
Edited by Pansytilly on Thu 09/10/15 12:58 AM

Huge topic Panstilly....flowerforyou


i noticed...
many have been asking about the best way to achieve peace and understanding...
many have been looking for a scapegoat in issues relating to religion, politics and morality(sexual and otherwise)...
many have been wondering about the truth about mental health and human behavior...
many have been trying to find answers and controversies about gender issues, crimes, racism, terrorism...
so on and so forth...

...could be that the more you expose children up to their teens in these situations, without the benefit of their fully understanding the circumstances nor having full awareness of their identity as an individual, you can actually be inducing their neural systems to integrate in such a way that certain "ideas" now become "genetic traits" in the future generations.

what used to be natural becomes unnatural and vice versa. something that used to be environmental, now becomes genetic. hence, what used to be right, can become wrong and what is wrong can become right, not based on philosophy, but eventually based on science.


i figured this topic fit right in the Science and Philosophy Forum quite appropriately smile2

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Thu 09/10/15 12:22 AM

I was born. Argh!


we all were laugh

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Thu 09/10/15 12:17 AM

I think stress works as a two aspects of coin negative or positive.An optimist human can conquer stress where as pessimist can't conquer.There is phrase "wen going gets tough,tough gets going".A real diamond have to come through manny hammers.If u see a gr8 persons life there life was not easy like Lincon,Gandhi,Mandela,Einstein,Hitler,Napolean,Jobbs,Warren............list goes on.


you are right.
but not everybody has the tools to deal with different stresses.
plus, not everybody is in a position to rise above or even get through the environmental stresses they are placed or born into.

on the flip side of your comment, some "optimistic" people deal with stress by passing it on to others. they conquer their stress by conquering others.

so the question now is --how do you enable or empower at-risk individuals or groups/populations to overcome adversity towards the right direction?

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Thu 09/10/15 12:10 AM



I carry one of these.


like this ----> frustrated

laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 09/09/15 11:03 PM

I relieve stress by killing zombies on .. call of duty
:banana:

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Wed 09/09/15 10:27 PM
I'd rather be both physically and mentally exhausted...than emotionally exhausted.

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Wed 09/09/15 10:16 PM

Let's talk about stress... There are different types of stresses...positive, tolerable, toxic

Okay.
But people should really have a primer to couch themselves in the terms you bring up.

http://developingchild.harvard.edu/key_concepts/toxic_stress_response/

"The terms positive, tolerable, and toxic stress refer to the stress response systems’ effects on the body, not to the stressful event itself. Because of the complexity of stress response systems, the three levels are not clinically quantifiable—they are simply a way of categorizing the relative severity of responses to stressful conditions."

"Positive stress response is a normal and essential part of healthy development, characterized by brief increases in heart rate and mild elevations in hormone levels. Some situations that might trigger a positive stress response are the first day with a new caregiver or receiving an injected immunization.

Tolerable stress response activates the body’s alert systems to a greater degree as a result of more severe, longer-lasting difficulties, such as the loss of a loved one, a natural disaster, or a frightening injury. If the activation is time-limited and buffered by relationships with adults who help the child adapt, the brain and other organs recover from what might otherwise be damaging effects.

Toxic stress response can occur when a child experiences strong, frequent, and/or prolonged adversity—such as physical or emotional abuse, chronic neglect, caregiver substance abuse or mental illness, exposure to violence, and/or the accumulated burdens of family economic hardship—without adequate adult support. This kind of prolonged activation of the stress response systems can disrupt the development of brain architecture and other organ systems, and increase the risk for stress-related disease and cognitive impairment, well into the adult years."



Thank you for providing the detailed primer.
Positive stress ie. Project deadlines, assignments, relocating...etc...
Tolerable stress ie. Getting mugged or scammed, relationship breakups, separation anxieties...etc...
Toxic stress ie. Abusive situations, wars, chronic debilitating illness without healthcare, refugee situations...etc...



How do you view stress?

Depends on what's causing it, what it's doing to me (if I can even spot that), what I can do about it, and when.

Give your example, then...


What is your stress response and how has this affected you?

Huh?
My stress response is all three, and all the other types of stress. Like acute.


Like watching a scary movie..? scared laugh


How do you assist others experiencing stressful experiences and damaged by harmful stresses? Young and old.

Depends on my relationship to them.
Depends on what's going on, what's causing the stress, and how they're reacting to it.
Usually, if I help at all, it's to identify the problem.

flowerforyou

It is easier to build stong children than repair a broken man

I disagree.
Especially when middle class pretty much requires two full time working parents and mental health care has to be covered by insurance.

this ^^ actually made me laugh a bit...

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Wed 09/09/15 10:02 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/man-fatally-shoots-masked-intruder-230708823.html

Man Fatally Shoots Masked Intruder Who Turns Out to Be His Dad

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Wed 09/09/15 10:00 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/couple-reunites-baby-son-switched-135000674.html

Couple Reunites With Baby Son Who Was Switched at Birth

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Wed 09/09/15 09:24 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Wed 09/09/15 09:27 PM
I was able to see the responses. I am generally content with the outcome.

Psychological manipulation is what it is. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation

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Wed 09/09/15 09:22 PM

Honestly last job I had I was stressed out for many reasons.. One I had so much work that I could not catch up.. Some may say job security but believe me no job is worth that kind of security.. I worked there for 13 years...

Now where I work at I have been there 4 years.. best job I have ever had. No stress at all I can actually say I love my job.. There are many days I have nothing to do.. but I'm allowed to play online.. takes up the time..

As far as home my kids are grown just me and the dog.. I don't let things get to me... or stress me out..

Actually the older I get I just really don't give a care what others do or say.. I live my life like I want too. And do what I enjoy... Lots of peace and quite but time with friends and family as well..

Stress can make a illness worse and cause more medical problems.. In the end stress is not worth what it takes away from you...


Lol found this and had to share~~~~ Do I have these moments sure I do.. but they never last anymore.. Life is too short to be stressed to the point you no longer enjoy it.





Let it out, kristi...let it all out... laugh flowers

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Wed 09/09/15 09:20 PM

WOW...great topic, and that last line....simple yet truthful and powerful!

I believe as well that negative or toxic stress is a health-buster. It can weaken us to the point of actually, physically being ill.
I used to be able to handle toxic stress simply because of having someone by my side to talk to when it happens.

I can help someone else who is dealing with it much better than I can help myself.

Yes, often times, just being heard can make all the difference flowerforyou

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