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Topic: New Girl Friend is HIV Positive
DestinysDream's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:13 PM


Its ok Debbie. I appreciate your views...


thankyou. i wish the best for you, and i only gave you advice, to keep yourself safe. goodluck. flowerforyou flowerforyou

flowerforyou

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Wed 06/25/08 07:14 PM


he asked for advice

debbie works with people who have aids
i think that pretty much qualifies her to talk about this subject and give her veiws on it


If I worked for McDonalds would that make me an expert on meat by products... no

ok to share your views, but to continue to express death is not positive by any means
flowerforyou


i think most people now if they have got hiv/aids, they will die. be realistic. yes we all know were going to die, just some now there time may be up before others. im saying what i have learnt, i am not attacking like some people. that what your accusing me of. anyway im not discussing this anymore, ive told him what i know, and thats the end of it. have a nice day. flowerforyou

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:16 PM

follow your hearts and follow medical precautions.

No need for specifics on how she became HIV positive, but I see HIV, like cancer and other uncurable disease. The disease does not dictate the person. JMO


So true kuddos to you.

I say I would not but.......until that situation was put in my face I really don't know what I would do.


All I can say is we are all going to die someday so why bring that into it she has made it this long so she must be doing something right.

I wish you both all the happiness in the world!!flowerforyou

duckiegiggles's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:17 PM


he asked for advice

debbie works with people who have aids
i think that pretty much qualifies her to talk about this subject and give her veiws on it


If I worked for McDonalds would that make me an expert on meat by products... no

ok to share your views, but to continue to express death is not positive by any means
flowerforyou


not an expert no but she would atleast know how to cook the hamburger enough so it wouldnt make someone sick then throw it on a bun and call it a burger

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Wed 06/25/08 07:17 PM

We all agree go talk to someone in the field to understand the current state of HIV/AIDS.

Q. Can I become infected with HIV by shaking hands with, kissing, eating the same food as, or being sneezed or coughed on by someone who has HIV? Can I get HIV from a toilet seat? Or by being bitten by an infected mosquito? Or from a swimming pool?
No. This is because HIV is not an airborne, water-borne or food-borne virus. HIV can be passed from one person to another only when people exchange blood or sexual fluids (like semen or vaginal secretions). HIV cannot survive for very long outside of the human body. So you can't get HIV by having ordinary social contact with an infected person.



Q. How long can people with HIV survive?
There is no answer this question. It is true that with antiretroviral therapy, people living with HIV have had a significant decrease in HIV related illnesses and an increase in survival. Some individuals have already been alive over 20 years with the virus. And many people with HIV die from causes unrelated to their HIV.
How HIV will affect a person's life span in the future is unknown. As humans continue to learn more about HIV, the lifespan of those infected with HIV will continue to increase.


that is what i said, many of our patients didnt die of hiv, it was other illnesses related.

i was going to say something else, but nevermind. im leaving this thread, takecare everyone

franshade's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:17 PM



he asked for advice

debbie works with people who have aids
i think that pretty much qualifies her to talk about this subject and give her veiws on it


If I worked for McDonalds would that make me an expert on meat by products... no

ok to share your views, but to continue to express death is not positive by any means
flowerforyou


i think most people now if they have got hiv/aids, they will die. be realistic. yes we all know were going to die, just some now there time may be up before others. im saying what i have learnt, anyway im not discussing this anymore, ive told him what i know, and thats the end of it. have a nice day. flowerforyou


at no time did I attack you - logically everyone will die - one day

as to the Poster that mentioned the wax... I ignore ignorant posts

thats the end of it

no photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:23 PM

Thats why I made this comment first:
No doubt if this is true she needs to feel loved like anyone else. But You can do that without having an intimate relationship. So why not be friends and be supportive with out putting yourself in harms way. Think before you dive in so early.

Just thinking he is moving a little quick and asking the wrong crowd for advise..


hikerchick's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:24 PM
as to the Poster that mentioned the wax... I ignore ignorant posts


For some reason, I just can't, Fran!

franshade's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:25 PM



he asked for advice

debbie works with people who have aids
i think that pretty much qualifies her to talk about this subject and give her veiws on it


If I worked for McDonalds would that make me an expert on meat by products... no

ok to share your views, but to continue to express death is not positive by any means
flowerforyou


not an expert no but she would atleast know how to cook the hamburger enough so it wouldnt make someone sick then throw it on a bun and call it a burger


unless her job is to mop floors, then what ?

franshade's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:26 PM

as to the Poster that mentioned the wax... I ignore ignorant posts


For some reason, I just can't, Fran!


{{{{{{{{{{{{{hiker}}}}}}}}}}}}

I truly dont like discrimination of any kind (does it show), so I just bypassed that comment.

could have been said as a joke, meant to be funny or whatever, but I just paid it no mind

checkinout42's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:32 PM
Wow even without the AIDS factor, isn't this moving a little fast??? To be talking about moving in already???

But whatever you decide best of luck...


hikerchick's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:33 PM


as to the Poster that mentioned the wax... I ignore ignorant posts


For some reason, I just can't, Fran!


{{{{{{{{{{{{{hiker}}}}}}}}}}}}

I truly dont like discrimination of any kind (does it show), so I just bypassed that comment.

could have been said as a joke, meant to be funny or whatever, but I just paid it no mind
and this is why I :heart: you, Fran.

franshade's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:35 PM



as to the Poster that mentioned the wax... I ignore ignorant posts


For some reason, I just can't, Fran!


{{{{{{{{{{{{{hiker}}}}}}}}}}}}

I truly dont like discrimination of any kind (does it show), so I just bypassed that comment.

could have been said as a joke, meant to be funny or whatever, but I just paid it no mind
and this is why I :heart: you, Fran.



flowers flowers flowers hikerflowers flowers flowers :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Wed 06/25/08 07:39 PM
(((Mark)))...I hope you have considered those 3 beautiful children in your profile while making your decession...I assume they are your own. Please be extremely careful! Kudos for stands by this woman. :thumbsup:

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Wed 06/25/08 07:41 PM
I respect your decision not to just leave. Still be realistic..... It's been 20 years, and she may die in the near future. What then.... if your infected. What about your life, or life style? Do you later infect someone else you may fall in love with? Maybe you may not be able to even begin a relationship with others due to the infection.

I think you should stay friends, and not be inter-mitt. Still love each other.... emotionally.

unsure's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:41 PM
First of all let me just say, I wish you luck!
But, one of my very good friends passed away from HIV and all I can say to you is take lots of precautions my friend.
My question to you is this, don't you have children? Will your children be living with you and your new girlfriend? I guess my concern would be this...you are an adult and can make up your own mind IF you want to risk catching HIV...but what about the innocent children? They won't have a choice..you will be putting them in harms way.
I think you really should make an appt with your family doctor and you should have a very long talk with him/her.
I know if I was your ex wife, I would be fighting you on having my children around that situation. I still think they are very unclear on HIV/AIDS, I know I would not want to put my children in that type of envirement.

ElaineSeekingJerry's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:43 PM
Wow - appreciate everyone's honesty, but am kind of amazed by the misinformation out there about how HIV is/can be spread.

franshade's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:47 PM
fear is a major contributor to the misinformation.
flowerforyou

ElaineSeekingJerry's photo
Wed 06/25/08 08:16 PM
Indeed it is, Fran. A few years ago I was a support volunteer for individuals affected by HIV/AIDS (they had a partner or family member who was infected) and was told by a friend out of the country that she wasn't sure she was comfortable with me coming to visit her and her family because of my volunteer work - I was shocked, to say the least. Wasn't sure how she felt my facilitating a support group would put her children at risk, but it was a HUGE eye opener as to the depth of the fear and ignorance that exists around this disease.

franshade's photo
Wed 06/25/08 08:19 PM
this and so many other diseases, ideas and beliefs

flowerforyou

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