I'm a little bitter towards god right now so my opinion on this is as
biased as it comes I believe we only have free will in as far as God
agree's with what we are we doing once we step out of line i believe all
hell breaks loose and we are not so gently prodded back in line. As I
said my opinion is biased so i wouldn't pay it much attention.LOL

as much as i hate to agree with you ice i do belive you are right to a
point. he guides us in a direction but does not lead us there. if we
step out of line or down the road he gently urges us back to the safe
path. good going ice you are right on track.

wel theological scholars and priests have been breakin their heads over
this kinda stuff... i guess better dont good too deep so that our life
end before we find it... LOL

I guess i should say thanks.LOL I don't believe there is anything gentle
about god though it's his way or noway you will have free will to make
his choices and if you veer from that point he will put you back in line
if it kills us to get us to his end then so be it.

ice i think that is just a little harsh but i understand where you are
comming from. as we are both still alive i do not see him killing us
just to get us back in line however some of his ways may seem very
strong and out of line but it is for the better good but in some cases
death is involved but that is either for the better good of man kind or
the better goof for the person themselves. such as they are so messed up
he has to do a "recall" to try and fix the problem but either way i
think you are on the right track just hang in there and it will get
better for you i am sure of that no questions ask.

Recall.LOL that is one way of putting it that i've never heard. cute six

well i do my best ice i do my best.

iceprincess

Be assured though that Yahweh disciples his children when they fall
out of line because he loves them. What Father does not correct a son?
It is for your own good. We just have to accept it as a young child has
to accept it when he runs after a ball going into the street that we
stopped him for his own good. not because we are mean but because we
love him and he has not matured enough yet to understand the reasoning.
This is the same with us. If we fall out of line Yahweh will decide
whether to let us go and let us hopefully find our way. or he will stop
us and it may be painful but when we get older and have more wisdom we
can think back and praise Yahweh for correcting us. Blessings and Shalom
iceprincess

As far as the father,son and Holy spirit. remember Yahshua said i must
go and when i go i will send you a comforter(the Holy Spirit). The Holy
Spirit fell on all the prophets but at that time it was used for a
particular message for them to give or prophesy. Yahweh is the Father
and all things we see in the OT was done through the son Yahshua (the
word). As he was commanded of his father. no man has seen the father and
lived. Same is true in an earlier post about the 2 who was said did not
die. I would take it they meant enoch and eliYah. It only says they were
taken away. thier is no mention that they did not die.They could not of
went to the throne of Yahweh without being transformed or they would of
died. John was said to be the most beloved of anyone born of women. So
why did he die? Yahweh is not a respector of persons. So what about the
Holy spirit? it is the essence of Yahweh.We are now the Temple of
Yahweh. we had to be cleansed (baptised for remission of sins) then the
Holy Spirit Of Yahweh can enter in. with belief now all things are
possible as Peter stood up and declared boldly the mysteries of yahweh.
then the cripple he said in the name of Yahshua get up and walk. The
power of yahweh. his Authority. If we have all faith we can move
mountains. As Yahshua comes back he will split them. The father is the
Almighty creator. Yahshua is his only begotten son who comes in the
Authority of yahweh who now as our high priest pleads our case daily
before Yahweh the father. The Holy Spirit has always been. it is the
power of Yahweh.Elohim yes plural said lets make man in our own image
and Yahshua came in that image. Giving up his heavenly throne. Peter
healed the cripple with the power of Yahweh. This same spirit is
available to us today. Thier are some who have this power. But we have
seen so many shananigans from false prophets that the world dismisses
this power being alive and well. when you read those scriptures about
the messiah being here or over thier. re-think your understanding and
relize this is speaking of the many religions/sects that claim salvation
is with them. not in the desert. The desert is egypt (sin or false
doctrine). How do we know who is his people they do his will as yahshua
did and as we see in Rev. 14. May Yahweh's Knowledge be With His People
as a Precious Stone. shalom.... Miles