Topic: Atheism Exist Because God Doesn't
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Tue 02/17/09 07:50 AM
God to some is just an acceptable delusion of society that some choose not to be part of but yet the religious has devised a way to bring those that don’t believe in Gods or choose not to be bother with gods into their fantasy world of gods by labeling them Atheist

The atheist have unwillingly been endowed with the responsibility of trying to keep the religious from crossing the thin line from reality to fantasy as they are constantly ask to answer the eternal question.. “prove that God doesn’t exist”

why would it be up to someone to prove or disprove someone else’s claim, isn’t it logical for the one making the claim to provide the sufficient proof to prove what they claim

therefore any believer that makes a claim of the existence of a God as truth but yet cannot provide proof of that claim logically makes them an Atheist…..an atheist in Denial ….why?….because atheism can only exist because God doesn’t …

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Tue 02/17/09 08:25 AM
What I don't understand is why people feel the need to be responsible for someone else's beliefs, no matter what they are. We are free to believe what we choose and no proof is necessary on any side of the equation, as far as I'm concerned. Besides, you can't prove faith, you either choose to have faith in something greater than yourself or you don't. But faith cannot be proven nor should it be.

I don't care if someone chooses to believe in a God I don't believe in or if someone chooses not to believe in God at all, it's not mine or anyone else's responsibility nor is it anyone else's business. Whatever is out there will be revealed when we die, until then, it's all conjecture on anyone's part. flowerforyou

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Tue 02/17/09 09:51 AM

What I don't understand is why people feel the need to be responsible for someone else's beliefs,


what if someone belief was to drop a nuclear bomb on the USA and could actually do it, what if the beliefs of Adolph Hitler was challenge by the world would there been a chance that the Holocoust wouldn't have taken place,

wasn't it becauses of religious beliefs to torture and murder heretics ...wasn't it George Bush that said that God told him to invade Iraq where american troops and citizens are being killed, go ask the woman in the middle east that are under taliban rule why they have to care about the religious beliefs that the taliban have

good thing you live in the USA so that all you have to worry about is the occassional Jehovah Witness that has the belief they have a right to knock on your door early in the morning

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Tue 02/17/09 10:03 AM
But again, I am not responsible for their beliefs nor am I responsible for anyone's actions but my own. I have to live with the consequences of their actions, perhaps, but still, the responsibility does not lie with me. The only responsibility I have is to live by my own beliefs and moral code. If that means taking a stand against something I believe is wrong, I will do that. But, not with the intent of changing someone's point of view but only to stop an action that I believe is wrong, if it is possible to do so. Extremists of whatever ilk won't listen anyway, they believe what they believe, they are right, you are wrong, end of story.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Beliefs and actions are not always the same thing. Many people have beliefs but don't always act on them, especially in the extremist way you describe.

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Tue 02/17/09 10:23 AM

The only responsibility I have is to live by my own beliefs and moral code. If that means taking a stand against something I believe is wrong, I will do that. But, not with the intent of changing someone's point of view but only to stop an action that I believe is wrong,



oh so now you have a moral code to impose your sense of morality upon others to stop an action that goes against your moral code

is that the same as taking responsbility for someone else's belief

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Tue 02/17/09 10:34 AM
Perhaps Atheism exists because humans are tired of wondering if their is a God or not.

So in the end as there is no clear evidence they neglect the idea of any superstitious belief system that believes there is a God.

This is why Atheism exists

and of course because society has now recently allowed it.

A atheist in the 1600's would probably not have a very long lifespan let alone freedom in most countries if not all.


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Tue 02/17/09 10:35 AM
Hmmm, insulting as well as having no ears and a closed mind and soul. Got it, I'm out. Peace, my brother flowerforyou

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Tue 02/17/09 10:37 AM
I don't think an atheist is in denial any more than any other way of thinking. it's just different than what I think. doesn't make it wrong or right. just different.

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Tue 02/17/09 10:38 AM
A atheist in the 1600's would probably not have a very long lifespan let alone freedom in most countries if not all.


Well, of course, because during that time, the church ruled the world.

Early on in American History, an Atheist would have been able to hold public office, while being openly Atheist.

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Tue 02/17/09 11:00 AM

Perhaps Atheism exists because humans are tired of wondering if their is a God or not.

So in the end as there is no clear evidence they neglect the idea of any superstitious belief system that believes there is a God.

This is why Atheism exists

and of course because society has now recently allowed it.

A atheist in the 1600's would probably not have a very long lifespan let alone freedom in most countries if not all.


here's a simple phrase to explain Atheism ...if there were no believers there would be no atheists

it is because of believers that atheists are created,they have forced their belief upon an person by giving them that title


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Tue 02/17/09 01:09 PM
So - let me ask you this.

There exists - just as much proof for God as there is for gravity.

Why isn't the sidewalk littered with fallen Atheists?

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Tue 02/17/09 01:30 PM

it is because of believers that atheists are created,they have forced their belief upon an person by giving them that title


how do you know this? How does anyone know why anobody was created in the first place? slaphead

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Tue 02/17/09 01:53 PM

So - let me ask you this.

There exists - just as much proof for God as there is for gravity.

Why isn't the sidewalk littered with fallen Atheists?


"Eljay" ..gravity is a result of the laws of physics and can be reproduced by applying those Laws ...God being a figment of your imagination and faith can't

you should know by now that it's not wise to use a scientific concept to justify a religious belief ...it makes you sound delusional

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Tue 02/17/09 02:09 PM


So - let me ask you this.

There exists - just as much proof for God as there is for gravity.

Why isn't the sidewalk littered with fallen Atheists?


"Eljay" ..gravity is a result of the laws of physics and can be reproduced by applying those Laws ...God being a figment of your imagination and faith can't

you should know by now that it's not wise to use a scientific concept to justify a religious belief ...it makes you sound delusional


Do the Laws of Physics describe gravity - or does gravity establish a Law of Physics?

No "proof" of gravity - it is an a priori. Considered a "natural law". No explination as to where it came from. Can't bottle it, can't see it, can't create it's effect outside of it's domain. We can't send a group of scietists up to the moon to create the gravititation pull of the earth.

Gravity is not a "scientific concept". Science attempts to measure it, study it - but it is not a concept derived from science, it's been around as long as God. It predates man.

Demonstrating a belief of gravity - makes you sound delusional.

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Tue 02/17/09 02:09 PM


it is because of believers that atheists are created,they have forced their belief upon an person by giving them that title


how do you know this? How does anyone know why anobody was created in the first place? slaphead


"canaryrx" ...you didn't comprehend the answer so maybe you will if I say it in biblical rhyme


yet for thy believer's delusion that a God exist is why others had a title forced upon thee called Atheist


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Tue 02/17/09 02:15 PM

Gravity is not a "scientific concept". Science attempts to measure it, study it - but it is not a concept derived from science, it's been around as long as God. It predates man.


"Eljay" ...er.. doesn't all science predate Man

also let's get it on the record ...are you saying that gravity has nothing to do with science



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Wed 02/18/09 07:59 AM

I don't think an atheist is in denial any more than any other way of thinking. it's just different than what I think. doesn't make it wrong or right. just different.


"yellowrose" ..I meant that any "believer" that claim that the existence of God is truth but yet cannot provide the sufficent proof of that claim can therefore not rationally believe in God and is therefore an Atheist in denial

in other words ....everyone that is supposedly rational is an atheist