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Welfare client kept out of Canada files complaint Associated Press - May 9, 2009 8:04 PM ET OWOSSO, Mich. (AP) - A mid-Michigan woman says she was denied entry into Canada because she is on welfare. Rose Kelley of Owosso says she has filed a discrimination complaint with the Canada Border Services Agency over its refusal to let her and her two children cross the border via the Blue Water Bridge connecting Port Huron with Sarnia, Ontario. The 25-year-old Kelley tells The Argus-Press of Owosso that she planned to visit friends and relatives when she arrived at the border May 1. She says she was told to furnish evidence of citizenship, financial support and other documentation, but was denied entry again on May 3. Kelley says she was told she didn't make enough money and people on welfare shouldn't take vacations. Agency spokeswoman Patrizia Giolti says she can't discuss specifics of Kelley's case. http://www.wlns.com/Global/story.asp?S=10334479&nav=menu25_2 |
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I'm really gonna piss you off, but I kind of agree with border guard. 
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wow and people think the US is wrong for people illegally crossing the border. didn't know there are countries that will want a credit check ran
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As I understand it, it is common practice to establish that you are financially capable of returning.
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really thomas??? i hadn't heard that. kinda makes sense though
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I'm really gonna piss you off, but I kind of agree with border guard.
Why do you agree with him? I feel that he crossed the line when he said, "people on welfare shouldn't take vacations". |
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winx...well in a way...why should they? if they get tax payers money...they should use their own money for better things. I'm not on welfare but can't afford a vacation
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winx...well in a way...why should they? if they get tax payers money...they should use their own money for better things. I'm not on welfare but can't afford a vacation It's not a Canadian's Border Patrol's place to make that judgment call. You can imagine going there and they turn you away because of your income? |
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well thomas did make a point. if they don't have money to return home...do they get to live off of canada? if they have money for vacations then maybe they don't need to welfare as bad
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well thomas did make a point. if they don't have money to return home...do they get to live off of canada? if they have money for vacations then maybe they don't need to welfare as bad I'm not going to go into the politics of welfare here. I find it shocking, though, that they would ask for documentation of financial support and then say that rude, judgmental remark. |
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i don't really find it judgemental. it's actually true. but I'm not familiar with canada's laws about border crossing though, so whether he was in his right to turn her away...i don't know
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That's cool, Canada could show us a thing or two about how to protect our borders.
 To Canada for Immigration Enforcement!
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i don't really find it judgemental. it's actually true. but I'm not familiar with canada's laws about border crossing though, so whether he was in his right to turn her away...i don't know Well, it's terribly judgmental to me. |
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When I crossed the border near Seattle, the Canadians were very strict. The US border guards were very lax by comparison. The Canadians checked every thing. The US just took your word for it.
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Edited by
Winx
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Sun 05/10/09 11:39 PM
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When I crossed the border near Seattle, the Canadians were very strict. The US border guards were very lax by comparison. The Canadians checked every thing. The US just took your word for it. Did you have to show your paycheck stub? |
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Edited by
papersmile
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Mon 05/11/09 03:48 AM
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winx...well in a way...why should they? if they get tax payers money...they should use their own money for better things. I'm not on welfare but can't afford a vacation It's not a Canadian's Border Patrol's place to make that judgment call. You can imagine going there and they turn you away because of your income? My understanding from the article in the Toronto newspaper is that they were coming to Canada to visit relatives. Those relatives were paying for their trip. As someone who has recently had the exact same issue crossing that particular border, I can definitely say that I believe the American's version of events. Perhaps if we were a conservative country, I'd understand the border control's position a little better. But when I hear of jailed convicts receiving free cigarettes and clean needles being handed out to drug addicts who live on the street, I'd much rather see my tax dollars going toward allowing someone into this country and perhaps seeing them spend a few dollars here. |
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I'm really gonna piss you off, but I kind of agree with border guard.
Why do you agree with him? I feel that he crossed the line when he said, "people on welfare shouldn't take vacations". |
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Why is there an assumption that a welfare recipient is going to bolt from their country and leave those benefits behind for unsuredness in Canada?
I can see where there might be an ethical or moral consideration for the American people; however, as a Canadian, I could care less how they choose to spend their dollars, be them gained through welfare or a steady, stable job. I'm just happy to have their income spent here in my country. They provided an address as to where they would be staying, and that was supported by the friends and relatives. I am far more concerned with them detaining those who are illegally importing guns or drugs than I am with a mother travelling with her children for a visit to Canada. |
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I lived in Port Huron for 5 yrs an crossed that particular bridge on a weekly basis goin into Sarnia to purchase cigarettes. I don't recall once ever bein asked about my income level. I was asked citzenship an purpose for visit. I think it's ridculous for a border guard to ask such a question an then deny entrance for bein on welfare.
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