Topic: Homosexuality
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Thu 05/21/09 08:10 PM

make your mind up, stop being greedy

That's a common misconception or bias. Not all individuals who are bi are poly. Not all bi people date people of both sexes often, if at all.

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Thu 05/21/09 08:13 PM

i personally had a somewhat bad experience a few years ago while visiting a friend.before i went to visit,she told me her roommate was gay and i say "fine,just keep him away from me" but i also told her i was bringing my 9mm with me (because she lived in a bad neighborhood).

well the 3rd (and final)day i was there,i got woken up by her gay roommate saying "drop your pants and let me see it".my first thought was "WTF???",he kept on and kept on,finally after 10-20 minutes of this sh1t,i told him "dude you better turn your ass around and walk out the door or i'm gonna splatter your brains all over this wall!" and at that point i already had my 9mm in my hand cocked and loaded.he finally took the hint and left.i came home about an hour later and i have not spoken to her since.

i want to add,to any gay males that read this.DO NOT flirt with guys that you don't know if they are gay or not cause it could get you killed!.i'll be friends online with a gay male but the second he starts flirting with me,the sh1t's going to hit the fan!

also gays/lesbians say "we can't help who we are,just accept us".well guess what?straight guys can't help who we are and you're not goig to turn us gay by flirting with us,it's just going to piss us off!


some how I find that extremely hard to believe. I had a straight friend once, a macho paranoid type, but a nice guy in other ways, but he told a similar story.. Problem was that it never happened, he was just making sure that everyone knew what a regular straight guy he was..

I have never in my entire life used the words (nor any other gay I know) 'we can't help who we are' or the words just accept us. I don't give a rats behind if someone accepts me, I am just me if you can handle it fine if not the door swings both ways.


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Thu 05/21/09 08:15 PM


i personally had a somewhat bad experience a few years ago while visiting a friend.before i went to visit,she told me her roommate was gay and i say "fine,just keep him away from me" but i also told her i was bringing my 9mm with me (because she lived in a bad neighborhood).

well the 3rd (and final)day i was there,i got woken up by her gay roommate saying "drop your pants and let me see it".my first thought was "WTF???",he kept on and kept on,finally after 10-20 minutes of this sh1t,i told him "dude you better turn your ass around and walk out the door or i'm gonna splatter your brains all over this wall!" and at that point i already had my 9mm in my hand cocked and loaded.he finally took the hint and left.i came home about an hour later and i have not spoken to her since.

i want to add,to any gay males that read this.DO NOT flirt with guys that you don't know if they are gay or not cause it could get you killed!.i'll be friends online with a gay male but the second he starts flirting with me,the sh1t's going to hit the fan!

also gays/lesbians say "we can't help who we are,just accept us".well guess what?straight guys can't help who we are and you're not goig to turn us gay by flirting with us,it's just going to piss us off!


I don't get it. You were threatening to shoot somebody that never touched you?


That is also why it is hard to believe.

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Thu 05/21/09 08:45 PM

I tend to agree with this. Being Bi is now the "in" thing to do. More and more people are wanting to try this out. Just another example of people being afraid to make a decision and stand by it....laugh


That makes no sense unless they actually are BI, because if you are not attracted to the same sex your not going to experiment with something that your not attracted to normally.

It might be nice if it was the IN thing to live and let live, but straights making these kind of assumtions a bit silly if you aren't BI or gay yourself.

I love it when STRAIGHT people assume they know what it's like to be BI or Gay, and what is fake and what is real...

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Thu 05/21/09 08:52 PM



It is what it is - it seems that today being gay or bi is like getting a tattoo was a few years ago.

Remember once upon a time everyone thought a mullet was cool too


I tend to agree with this. Being Bi is now the "in" thing to do. More and more people are wanting to try this out. Just another example of people being afraid to make a decision and stand by it....laugh


and don't get me started on bi's ill
make your mind up, stop being greedy and i for one don't want somethin thats been dipped in diffrent pies!rant


Please educate yourself at least. Being Bi simply means you do not base how you feel about a person on their genitals. You can fall in love with a person no matter if they are male or female. I wish people would get over their fear of sexuality, their own and others.

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Thu 05/21/09 11:31 PM




It is what it is - it seems that today being gay or bi is like getting a tattoo was a few years ago.

Remember once upon a time everyone thought a mullet was cool too


I tend to agree with this. Being Bi is now the "in" thing to do. More and more people are wanting to try this out. Just another example of people being afraid to make a decision and stand by it....laugh


and don't get me started on bi's ill
make your mind up, stop being greedy and i for one don't want somethin thats been dipped in diffrent pies!rant


Please educate yourself at least. Being Bi simply means you do not base how you feel about a person on their genitals. You can fall in love with a person no matter if they are male or female. I wish people would get over their fear of sexuality, their own and others.



i dated a bi girl

know what she told me?

half of my heart is for you and half of my heart is for her

wanna explain that one?

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Fri 05/22/09 12:24 AM




It is what it is - it seems that today being gay or bi is like getting a tattoo was a few years ago.

Remember once upon a time everyone thought a mullet was cool too


I tend to agree with this. Being Bi is now the "in" thing to do. More and more people are wanting to try this out. Just another example of people being afraid to make a decision and stand by it....laugh


and don't get me started on bi's ill
make your mind up, stop being greedy and i for one don't want somethin thats been dipped in diffrent pies!rant


Please educate yourself at least. Being Bi simply means you do not base how you feel about a person on their genitals. You can fall in love with a person no matter if they are male or female. I wish people would get over their fear of sexuality, their own and others.


if only that was true of bi's but oh no it most certainly is not!

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Fri 05/22/09 12:25 AM





It is what it is - it seems that today being gay or bi is like getting a tattoo was a few years ago.

Remember once upon a time everyone thought a mullet was cool too


I tend to agree with this. Being Bi is now the "in" thing to do. More and more people are wanting to try this out. Just another example of people being afraid to make a decision and stand by it....laugh


and don't get me started on bi's ill
make your mind up, stop being greedy and i for one don't want somethin thats been dipped in diffrent pies!rant


Please educate yourself at least. Being Bi simply means you do not base how you feel about a person on their genitals. You can fall in love with a person no matter if they are male or female. I wish people would get over their fear of sexuality, their own and others.



i dated a bi girl

know what she told me?

half of my heart is for you and half of my heart is for her

wanna explain that one?


don't get me started on bi's!!

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Fri 05/22/09 12:26 AM



It is what it is - it seems that today being gay or bi is like getting a tattoo was a few years ago.

Remember once upon a time everyone thought a mullet was cool too


You're comparing being gay to having a tattoo or a mullet? huh



OKAY OKAY ONCE AND FOR ALL

I said it is TRENDY - like a Mullet or Tattoo not that it is dismissive like having either of them being Gay is much more life changing BUT SOME PEOPLE Are faking it trying to be TRENDY


me,me,me, i'm just being trendy yee ha :banana:

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Fri 05/22/09 12:28 AM

i personally had a somewhat bad experience a few years ago while visiting a friend.before i went to visit,she told me her roommate was gay and i say "fine,just keep him away from me" but i also told her i was bringing my 9mm with me (because she lived in a bad neighborhood).

well the 3rd (and final)day i was there,i got woken up by her gay roommate saying "drop your pants and let me see it".my first thought was "WTF???",he kept on and kept on,finally after 10-20 minutes of this sh1t,i told him "dude you better turn your ass around and walk out the door or i'm gonna splatter your brains all over this wall!" and at that point i already had my 9mm in my hand cocked and loaded.he finally took the hint and left.i came home about an hour later and i have not spoken to her since.

i want to add,to any gay males that read this.DO NOT flirt with guys that you don't know if they are gay or not cause it could get you killed!.i'll be friends online with a gay male but the second he starts flirting with me,the sh1t's going to hit the fan!

also gays/lesbians say "we can't help who we are,just accept us".well guess what?straight guys can't help who we are and you're not goig to turn us gay by flirting with us,it's just going to piss us off!


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Fri 05/22/09 05:40 AM
I would think getting hostile with another man flirting with you; not touching you, flirting with you - especially if it is subtle - is a pretty good sign that one is homophobic.

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Fri 05/22/09 06:13 AM
Edited by Jtevans on Fri 05/22/09 06:45 AM

I would think getting hostile with another man flirting with you; not touching you, flirting with you - especially if it is subtle - is a pretty good sign that one is homophobic.



i'm not a homophobe.i've had gay/bi relatives (a few who have passed away and i do miss them)but they need to know their boundaries.

so oh now it has to be PHYSICAL before you can give off warnings like that?


i guess if someone breaks into your house,you better not call the cops until they shoot you or stab you,right?if they haven't touched you than there's no reason for you or your KIDS to worry,huh?

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Fri 05/22/09 06:30 AM





It is what it is - it seems that today being gay or bi is like getting a tattoo was a few years ago.

Remember once upon a time everyone thought a mullet was cool too


I tend to agree with this. Being Bi is now the "in" thing to do. More and more people are wanting to try this out. Just another example of people being afraid to make a decision and stand by it....laugh


and don't get me started on bi's ill
make your mind up, stop being greedy and i for one don't want somethin thats been dipped in diffrent pies!rant


Please educate yourself at least. Being Bi simply means you do not base how you feel about a person on their genitals. You can fall in love with a person no matter if they are male or female. I wish people would get over their fear of sexuality, their own and others.



i dated a bi girl

know what she told me?

half of my heart is for you and half of my heart is for her

wanna explain that one?


Do you think all people who are bi are like that just because one person you knew was like that?

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Fri 05/22/09 07:22 AM


I would think getting hostile with another man flirting with you; not touching you, flirting with you - especially if it is subtle - is a pretty good sign that one is homophobic.



i'm not a homophobe.i've had gay/bi relatives (a few who have passed away and i do miss them)but they need to know their boundaries.

so oh now it has to be PHYSICAL before you can give off warnings like that?


i guess if someone breaks into your house,you better not call the cops until they shoot you or stab you,right?if they haven't touched you than there's no reason for you or your KIDS to worry,huh?

What I meant was, it is not okay to punch someone out or harm them simply for looking at you too long, smiling at you, or complimenting you in an appropriate manner.

If a male would accept certain flirtatious behavior from a female without physically harming the female, wouldn't it stand to reason that it might be the male's issue if they couldn't tolerate, accept, or even welcome it from a male?

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Fri 05/22/09 07:24 AM
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t most sexually based offenses i.e. rape, child predation, sexual assault committed by heterosexuals? huh

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Fri 05/22/09 07:27 AM
Edited by AngelFireDream on Fri 05/22/09 07:32 AM
The DSM ruled OUT homosexuality as a perversion or mental illness YEARS ago.

Homosexuality and DSM-IV
Q. Do you have any information on how homosexuality was eliminated from the DSM-IV vs DSM-III? Is there an established revision procedure whereby disorders are either included or excluded in new editions? If so, is there a way to determine whether that procedure was followed in the revision work that excluded homosexuality in the current fourth edition?

A. The issue of whether homosexuality is a disease has been one of the more controversial matters that has faced the framers of the various DSMs over the last few decades. The very first edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-I) classified homosexuality as a sexual deviation, as did DSM-II in 1968. However, in December of 1973, the DSM-II was modified by the Board of Trustees of the American Psychiatric Association (APA), who voted to eliminate the general category of homosexuality, and replace it with sexual orientation disturbance.

As Dr. Jon Meyer notes (see Comprehensive Textbook of Psychiatry, 4th ed., eds. Kaplan & Sadock), "...this change reflected the point of view that homosexuality was to be considered a mental disorder only if it was subjectively disturbing to the individual. The decision of the APA Board...took place in the context of new sociological data, biological inferences, and de-emphasis of psychoanalytic observations. It also took place in an atmosphere of confrontation. Beginning in 1970, various gay activist groups demonstrated....at APA meetings. At issue was the conceptualization of homosexuality as an illness..."

The DSM-III committee and subcommittee charged with drafting the new manual (1976-78) settled on the diagnosis of ego-dystonic homosexuality, which, according to Meyer, "...represented a compromise between those individuals whose clinical experience, interpretation of the data, and, perhaps, biases, led them to the conviction that homosexuality was a normal variant of sexual expression..." By the time DSM-III-R (revised version of DSM-III) came out in 1987, the tide had shifted again. The category of ego-dystonic homosexuality was eliminated. As DSM-III-R itself stated, "...the diagnosis...has rarely been used clinically, and there have been only a few articles in the scientific literature that use the concept..."

However, one could use the category of sexual disorder not otherwise specified to include cases that previously would have been called ego-dystonic homosexuality. Our present DSM-IV does not include homosexuality per se as a disorder, but still permits the diagnosis of "Sexual Disorder Not Otherwise Specified" for someone with "...persistent and marked distress about sexual orientation".

For details on how the DSM-IV committees made their decisions, I suggest you get hold of a copy of the actual manual, and read the detailed description on p. xx in the introduction. I think it's fair to say that DSM-IV was more reliant on empirical data, and less on political considerations, than were some earlier DSMs. You may also want to see the article by Bayer & Spitzer in which edited correspondence by the DSM-III framers is presented on the issue of homosexuality (J Hist Behav Sci 18:32, 1982).


http://www.healthieryou.com/mhexpert/exp1052101c.html

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Fri 05/22/09 07:30 AM
Edited by Zazanna on Fri 05/22/09 07:31 AM

The DSM ruled OUT homosexuality as a perversion or mental illness YEARS ago.


Well that is what I was trying to get at. If the majority of sexually related crimes are actually committed by heterosexuals, then well, that really cant be used as any kind of excuse or basis for which to condemn them.

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Fri 05/22/09 07:31 AM



I would think getting hostile with another man flirting with you; not touching you, flirting with you - especially if it is subtle - is a pretty good sign that one is homophobic.



i'm not a homophobe.i've had gay/bi relatives (a few who have passed away and i do miss them)but they need to know their boundaries.

so oh now it has to be PHYSICAL before you can give off warnings like that?


i guess if someone breaks into your house,you better not call the cops until they shoot you or stab you,right?if they haven't touched you than there's no reason for you or your KIDS to worry,huh?

What I meant was, it is not okay to punch someone out or harm them simply for looking at you too long, smiling at you, or complimenting you in an appropriate manner.

If a male would accept certain flirtatious behavior from a female without physically harming the female, wouldn't it stand to reason that it might be the male's issue if they couldn't tolerate, accept, or even welcome it from a male?



what STRAIGHT male is going WELCOME sexual advances from another male?if he does than he's no longer straight.

hell a woman can punch a guy out for doing those things and it's ok but a straight guy can't do that to a gay guy for those same reasons without him being a "homophobe"?huh spock

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Fri 05/22/09 07:37 AM




I would think getting hostile with another man flirting with you; not touching you, flirting with you - especially if it is subtle - is a pretty good sign that one is homophobic.



i'm not a homophobe.i've had gay/bi relatives (a few who have passed away and i do miss them)but they need to know their boundaries.

so oh now it has to be PHYSICAL before you can give off warnings like that?


i guess if someone breaks into your house,you better not call the cops until they shoot you or stab you,right?if they haven't touched you than there's no reason for you or your KIDS to worry,huh?

What I meant was, it is not okay to punch someone out or harm them simply for looking at you too long, smiling at you, or complimenting you in an appropriate manner.

If a male would accept certain flirtatious behavior from a female without physically harming the female, wouldn't it stand to reason that it might be the male's issue if they couldn't tolerate, accept, or even welcome it from a male?



what STRAIGHT male is going WELCOME sexual advances from another male?if he does than he's no longer straight.

hell a woman can punch a guy out for doing those things and it's ok but a straight guy can't do that to a gay guy for those same reasons without him being a "homophobe"?huh spock


Why does it bother you so much if another male flirts with you?

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Fri 05/22/09 07:41 AM
Edited by AngelFireDream on Fri 05/22/09 07:42 AM




I would think getting hostile with another man flirting with you; not touching you, flirting with you - especially if it is subtle - is a pretty good sign that one is homophobic.



i'm not a homophobe.i've had gay/bi relatives (a few who have passed away and i do miss them)but they need to know their boundaries.

so oh now it has to be PHYSICAL before you can give off warnings like that?


i guess if someone breaks into your house,you better not call the cops until they shoot you or stab you,right?if they haven't touched you than there's no reason for you or your KIDS to worry,huh?

What I meant was, it is not okay to punch someone out or harm them simply for looking at you too long, smiling at you, or complimenting you in an appropriate manner.

If a male would accept certain flirtatious behavior from a female without physically harming the female, wouldn't it stand to reason that it might be the male's issue if they couldn't tolerate, accept, or even welcome it from a male?



what STRAIGHT male is going WELCOME sexual advances from another male?if he does than he's no longer straight.

hell a woman can punch a guy out for doing those things and it's ok but a straight guy can't do that to a gay guy for those same reasons without him being a "homophobe"?huh spock

It is NOT okay for a woman to strike a man or harm them for smiling, looking, or grossly inappropriately flirting with them where I live. They would be arrested, same as a man.

I agree with you about boundaries. It is generally using common sense to say that people should NOT be touching (in any way, shape, or form) anyone they do not know (and even then!) without consent.

Some males who welcome advances from other males consider themselves primarily straight, or heteroflexible. That's a whole other topic. But, general consensus in the GLBT community is that individuals should have the freedom to identify with whatever "label" they feel most comfortable with. That's why it is soooo important not to assume anything anymore these days when someone tells you they are straight, Gay, Lesbian, or bi. Find out from them exactly what it means to them. Some people have been rudely surprised.