yup definately homophobic.
now what if i were to get upset every time a woman came on to me?

Hmm. It seems context should be relevant here. Also maturity and one's sense of self confidence. If a gay male approached a straight one, he may not know exactly and could only be testing the water. No reason to attack him or become enraged. All you need to do is take it as a compliment and politely let him know that you aren't interested.

Then if he were to persist for some reason, I could see you becoming much more upset. Women also become frightened by men who cant take no for an answer. I understand that. That would not mean you are homophobic. It means you are straight and the guy has been warned.

Getting more upset is one thing. Threatening to shoot someone is another.

No I didnt mean to imply killing someone. But how many times do you have to warn an overly aggressive male in a bar? Same situation isn't it?

My Dad and my ex have had men approach them. They said, "No." It didn't bother them so much.

Women have men come on to them in too aggressive ways. Sometimes it's not pretty. We deal with it.

Yes, that's true. I have a friend whose ex-husband got 30 years for abusing his step-daughter.

i wanna be related to winx, no men bloody well approach me!

And that's the story that you're sticking with, right?

I wish the world could just live in peace and let people love whoever they want.

And that's the story that you're sticking with, right?


well that and, i've never done this before

Yes I didn't mean to imply that someone should be overtly aggressive or attack or pull a knife or shoot someone because they wont take no for an answer in a bar situation.

I just meant that women deal with this all the time when men sometimes have too much to drink and they might overextend their welcome in a pub environment (or anywhere really)

I would refer to that as unwanted flirtation but it really can occur with any gender at any time. The best way to handle it is a firm but polite "no thank you."

But then if it persists, probably something else needs to be done. I know when Ive been in a bar, I have had to tell the bartender and they "chat it up" and then it usually ends there. They just threaten to escort them out normally or cut them off.

Same thing.

My best friend is a lesbian. She was also my best man at my last wedding. My life has been better with her in it. Isn't about time we stopped worrying about who people sleep with and just respect each other and wish piece, love , and happyness to our fellow man?

A woman can defend herself if she has attempted to turn someone down and they refuse to listen. You do not see women punching a guy out for showing any kind of polite interest very often.

This whole thing seems pretty basic to me...

if ya wanna get laid..drop trou...if ya don't wanna get laid...don't drop trou...who you get your cookies from is no ones business.

Other than that...people are cool or they ain't.

This isn't rocket science.

I have never had to become aggressive with an overly assertive male in a bar. I have found other, safer, and more civilized means to deal with crossing of boundaries and/or the threats of same. So can others.

Brand new one to argue about maybe?


But somebody mentioned something about this a few pages back and I never had a chance to say this:

In my opinion, and it just so has been that I have known a couple (4 or 5 lesbians) well enough, that I can have an informed opinion, that I think that lesbians come off like they "do not like men" because men treat them differently.

Think about it. How many "people" do you not like? Say there is a person out there who is a built jock who is real smart. Bet any money he just automatically doesn't like the people who want him to be stupid and play for Michigan. Ya see what I'm saying???

Men, just do not know how to "treat" lesbians. In my personal experience. Because, I am always scared they are going to think I'm coming on to them or something and I will offend them. SOoooo...lots of men just say, forget it! I'm am going to just not be cool with em.

What happens???? Lesbians start to look at men differently.

Then what? The "assumptions" start.

And now the prototypical ideal...."Lesbians" don't like guys...

If you did? Oh well

I will always come on to you

Neither have I ever become "aggressive". I mentioned talking to the bartender if the problem persisted. I have done this in the past. I feel its a fair and reasonable course of action to politely tell someone (male or female) you are not interested but if they continue, something else would need to be done.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek *runs from thread*