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rumor has it, they all went out for a beer, and never came back!  |
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There is a very famous fossilized footprint, found in Montana, I believe (a place which is now a National Park), suggesting what happened to dinosaurs. This fossil is that of a dinosaurs' footprint, and that of a MAN, side by side. They were found on a hill pointing toward the mountains, or high ground, and had been made in mud. (I guess an internet search would be in order here.) A footprint of both a dinosaur, and a man, running in mud, uphill. Sounds to me like the law of nature, "kill or be killed, eat, or be eaten" was totally ignored that day, as these two organisms were running uphill in a very heavy rain (Uphill mud?), trying to save themselves from drowning. I would not be at all surprised if this fossil has gone mysteriously "missing". Nor would I be at all surprised if the near intact carcass of a velociraptor, along with a FOUR CHAMBERED HEART (like mammals and birds), and not a THREE CHAMBERED HEART (like a lizard), has gone mysteriously missing, as well. It is also interesting to note that dinosaur bones are typically found in sandstone, which indicates a large body of water once lay at that exact spot. It is of further interest that flying dinosaurs, etc., are typically found in the upper strata of this same sandstone. Couldn't pteradactyls and other flying creatures (not classified as dinosaurs) glide for forty days, and forty nights? Or did they finally tire, having fought the driving wind and rain, in addition to fatigue, to succumb to the monstrously huge, watery grave that had swallowed every living thing? Well, ALMOST every living thing. For more truly fascinating info on this subject, search, "Dr. Kent Hovind" (I went to his seminar), or, as he is more commonly known, "Dr. Dino". The truth will set you free. If you follow the events of the Bible, the earth is ALMOST only 7,000 years old. This would mean that, for a time, men and dinosaurs lived together on our same planet. This could not be allowed, however, as "early man" would not have been able to compete with dinosaurs for survival. Dinosaurs had to go. However, has anyone noticed that any current day sighting of a dinosaur (the most famous being "Nessie", in Loch Ness, Scotland), is that of an AQUATIC DINOSAUR? You may also be familiar with "Champ", the dinosaur which supposedly inhabits Lake Champlain, which borders Vermont, New York, and Quebec, Canada. Actually, I've seen video footage, taken by a very shaken man who was with his son on a tower overlooking Lake Champlain. It was that of a huge shadow, moving slowly across the lake, obviously a huge school of fish, I supposed at first. That was until I saw the plume of water spew from the nose end. These dinosaurs might have easily survived a flood.  ...not sure that's the same one I saw, but thanks for locating that!  If this were real and true, it begs the question, why are there no human bones found with dinosaur bones and vice versa? Try this: 1) Take a handful of dry, autumn leaves. 2) Crush them in your hands, so there are some large pieces, on down to tiny particles. 3) Drop all this into a bucket of water, where the bits of dry leaves, of various sizes, can be clearly seen. 4) Take a broomstick, and stir vigorously. In my guess-timation, the smallest particles will gather in the center of the whirlpool you created. The larger/largest particles will spin on the outside. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? a. When the entire earth flooded, with so much geographical obstruction (mountains and such), countless whirlpools were formed as the water rose, and humans, animals, and dinosaurs began to drown. b. As in the above experiment, in these whirlpools (gigantic in size) the larger "pieces" (dinosaurs) spun within the furthest reaches of the whirlpools. The smaller "pieces" (humans), were immediately drawn into the center of the whirlpool, just as in our experiment, where again, the outcome is based upon my educated guess. c. Keeping in mind that in my earlier post that flying dinosaurs are typically found in the upper strata of sandstone because, since they were flying, they were the last to succumb to the driving force of wind and an incredible amount of water falling to the earth at one time. And I mean a LOT of water. (To cover even the tops of our tallest mountains, might this water-force, which fell for ONLY 40 days and nights, have actually CRUSHED humans and dinosaurs alike? What would happen to your body were you to go for a shower under the Niagra Falls? Just a theory, but seems credible...) d. As humans would have been tiny, land roving animals, drawn to the center of these whirlpools, it seems human bones/corpses would finally be deposited at the root of the sandstone structures we have today. Larger/largest bones/corpses would be on the outside, where wind and time eventually exposed enough of them for discovery by present day archeologists. Human remains from the flood might NEVER be seen so exposed. To find these human bones, one would have to either flatten the top of a geographical sandstone structure to have a level place in which to work in many cases, and begin drilling A LOT of very deep holes, in the hopes of discovering even a single, human bone fragment. Another method might be to cut down the structure at the root like felling a tree, in order to get down low enough to search for these human bones, were they to be present. Or again, a mine could be dug at the base, in the hopes of running across a single, human bone fragment with a single mineshaft (doesn't seem likely). Very, very expensive, and likely only conducted by those who take no stock in "The Great Flood", or "Noahs' Ark", let alone the Bible, anyway. Those WITH FAITH would rather spend all that money in feeding the poor. Great flood = enormous geographical sandstone structures...think "The Painted Desert" in Arizona. God expects us to exercise FAITH. Were we to find these human bone deposits too early in history, just how much faith would we need anymore? As history barrels along, we may find faith will be MORE NECESSARY THAN EVER, NOT LESS. Would this sudden discovery of human bone fragments in the roots of large sandstone structures ironically DENY US OF THE FAITH WHICH WOULD SAVE US? The Painted Desert awaits. Start digging. Let us know what you find. Me? I'd much rather continue to stay cool (hot in the desert), not get my clothes dirty, and continue to develop my FAITH. Are you serious? I mean really..are you serious? You can't be serious. That "theory" has got so many holes in it, it makes swiss cheese look like a brick wall. I was going to point out all the holes, but then I thought "he can't be serious. it's got to be a joke reply. No one could be that uninformed/uneducated in the basics of science and be over the age of 12....could they?" Please tell me you're kidding around. No cop-outs for you, my friend ("I was going to point out all the holes..."). List the "holes", please. Teach me the error of my ways, oh Wise One! I am open to your tutelage. Oh, and how did the above experiment go? I'm sure you went right to work on it. No dry, autumn leaves were available, you say? Try compost. In addition, the population was significantly smaller then, therefore: 1) ...very few carcasses to be found in a whopping humongous body of water...veritable "needles in haystacks". 2) ...once all that water receded, and mounds of sediment settled upon these carcasses, under which of the resulting topographical sandstone structures, scattered the world over, would one look under first? No one is going to do that. 3) Is there any way to determine in which direction such a crushing torrent of downward pouring water would eventually flow, depositing evidence of its' tragic results? It may be there where you would find your human bones. 4) Though, admittedly, I haven't actually performed the above experiment myself, I'd be curious as to how sand would be distributed in the bottom of that bucket, once the water became still. Would it be thickest in the center of the bottom of the bucket? Seems likely... 5) I've seen tornadoes on television (can these be compared to the effects of a whirlpool?), and it did seem like smaller particles whirled in the center, while larger objects (...a van, etc.), whirled around on the outside. No, faith is required to believe in such things as Noahs' Ark and The Great Flood (thank God!). The last I heard, the battle still rages over the authenticity of three strange, boat-like formations, which rest at 6,300 feet above sea level in Eastern Turkey, about 12–15 miles (15–24 kilometres) from the summit of Greater Mount Ararat. I don't expect to "sell" you on any of this, actually. Nor do I care for the pleasure of saying, "See! I told you so!" Also, relax! No one who isn't the least bit curious as to the existence of God, the validity of the Great Flood, etc., is going to read this admittedly gargantuan thread reply. You haven't even read to this point, have you! Questions, questions...mysteries of our beginnings... ...and this is good for us! For as long as faith is needed to come to a conclusion upon these and the rest of the mysteries of our origins, there is still time and a way to find favor with God, and meet him in Heaven! When those human bones are seen to protrude out of the walls of canyons and such, maybe it's time to evaluate your standing with God. Or maybe, it is far too late...  (sigh) Oky doky. Aside from the fact that there's no evidence, at all, of a world wide flood, and the biblical account of such a flood is taken, nearly word for word from the stories of Gilgamish(sp?) of Sumaria, written some thousands of years previously, which was itself a rip off of other stories... a. & b. You're proposal assumes that the whole of the world was covered in whirlpools. If you can't see how silly that idea is, I don't know what to tell you, except perhaps get a map. I, for one, have seen many places where no whirlpools would ever form. In fact, I would go so far as to say MOST places would never form a whirlpool, no matter how much water was added. I've even seen documentaries of floods and never saw whirlpools. c.assuming you are correct about flying dinos being found in the upper strata of sandstone, a point I'm not willing to concede, but for the sake of argument, let us assume you are correct and that it was because they were flying. 1.They must've been flying, w/o landing for rest and food, for an awfully long time. In the rain. Does that really make any sense to you? 2.None must've been sick, old, or injured or too young to fly. If the water was sufficient to crush humans and dinos alike, as you say, Then there wouldn't be any dino bones either. Now if you say it would take longer to crush the dino bones because they were bigger, ok. However, there would still be significant and verifyable water crushing damage to the dino bones we've found. There isn't. Also, such a crushing torrent of water would've knocked flying dinos out of the sky, wouldn't it? Not to mention, we know just exactly how long it takes for sand and mud to become stone and it's not thousands of years. D.You have no understanding of inertia,centripedal, or centrifugal forces. All objects in a whirlpool are flung outward. If an object moves towards the center, it's because some other force is acting on it. Such as a sucking down. Now if the sucking down force was sufficient to suck down human bodies, it would suck down all bodies because the same forces would be applied equally to everything. And please consider, such whirlpools, if they existed, would leave very big drill holes that should be in evidence everywhere. Also, if dino bones were typically deposited in this manner, by whirlpools, it seems like it should be that all dino bones would be found in great circles, which they are not. And if you wanted to prove this idea of whirlpools, and humans and dinos being alive at the same time, it seems like all you'd have to do is find a giant circle of of dino bones, work out the center of the circle, and dig. But since dino bones aren't found in giant circles, this would be impossible, huh. In addition: 1. smaller population...lol..yes. However, it seems if your idea is correct, something would've been found by now. 2. such "mounds of sediment", created by such a horrendous worldwide flood, would've had to have come from somewhere. Did God create that too and forget to mention it? 3. water tends to flow downhill. Towards the sea, eventually. If your assumption is that the water deposited these "tragic results", you must abandon your whirlpool idea. Also, if such deposites were real, wouldn't we have found them by now? Such deposites would be extremely large and have all manner of trees, bugs, and animals in it. And being so large, as they would have to be, they should be readily appearent in lots of places on the Earth. As far as I know, none have ever been found. 4. No it wouldn't. If you're still on about the whirlpool in a bucket, the sand would be on the outside. 5. Yes tornados can be compared to whirlpools. And yes, objects of greater mass, generally have greater inertia to surface area ratios. So? I've already shown how that whirlpool idea doesn't work. Faith IS required to believe in Noah's Ark and the great flood. That and a complete lack of logical thinking, science, and history. Ah, the great Mt. Ararat controversy. Actually, it's pretty much accepted that it's merely some strange rock formations. You won't get to say "I told you so", don't worry about that. and yes, I read to that point. "for as long...." So, with that statement, you are saying that if we do prove God exists, then it's too late? Wow, God must really be an evil little f*cker, huh. I have no standing w/ God. Evaluation done. Thx. |
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If any 'evidence' for human/dinosaur co-existence mysteriously disappears, maybe its because the perpetrators of the fraud prefer being caught empty handed to being caught red handed.
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There is a very famous fossilized footprint, found in Montana, I believe (a place which is now a National Park), suggesting what happened to dinosaurs. This fossil is that of a dinosaurs' footprint, and that of a MAN, side by side. They were found on a hill pointing toward the mountains, or high ground, and had been made in mud. (I guess an internet search would be in order here.) A footprint of both a dinosaur, and a man, running in mud, uphill. Sounds to me like the law of nature, "kill or be killed, eat, or be eaten" was totally ignored that day, as these two organisms were running uphill in a very heavy rain (Uphill mud?), trying to save themselves from drowning. I would not be at all surprised if this fossil has gone mysteriously "missing". Nor would I be at all surprised if the near intact carcass of a velociraptor, along with a FOUR CHAMBERED HEART (like mammals and birds), and not a THREE CHAMBERED HEART (like a lizard), has gone mysteriously missing, as well. It is also interesting to note that dinosaur bones are typically found in sandstone, which indicates a large body of water once lay at that exact spot. It is of further interest that flying dinosaurs, etc., are typically found in the upper strata of this same sandstone. Couldn't pteradactyls and other flying creatures (not classified as dinosaurs) glide for forty days, and forty nights? Or did they finally tire, having fought the driving wind and rain, in addition to fatigue, to succumb to the monstrously huge, watery grave that had swallowed every living thing? Well, ALMOST every living thing. For more truly fascinating info on this subject, search, "Dr. Kent Hovind" (I went to his seminar), or, as he is more commonly known, "Dr. Dino". The truth will set you free. If you follow the events of the Bible, the earth is ALMOST only 7,000 years old. This would mean that, for a time, men and dinosaurs lived together on our same planet. This could not be allowed, however, as "early man" would not have been able to compete with dinosaurs for survival. Dinosaurs had to go. However, has anyone noticed that any current day sighting of a dinosaur (the most famous being "Nessie", in Loch Ness, Scotland), is that of an AQUATIC DINOSAUR? You may also be familiar with "Champ", the dinosaur which supposedly inhabits Lake Champlain, which borders Vermont, New York, and Quebec, Canada. Actually, I've seen video footage, taken by a very shaken man who was with his son on a tower overlooking Lake Champlain. It was that of a huge shadow, moving slowly across the lake, obviously a huge school of fish, I supposed at first. That was until I saw the plume of water spew from the nose end. These dinosaurs might have easily survived a flood. Wow. This is perhaps the most uninformed post I have ever read. Please do some real research on dinosaurs. Dr. Dino doesn't seem fit to talk about them. |
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Giant rock smash planet in Mexico. Boom. Tidal Wave. Ice Age. No more cold blooded killing machines. (Except crocs and gators.)
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They opposed Obama and were never seen again. This message will self destruct in 10 seconds.
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There's quite a lot more than just dinosaur and human tracks alongside each other. Numerous art/sculptures/engravings have been turning up that show humans not only hunting dinosaurs, but domesticating them. Of course they didn't call them dinosaurs but dragons or behemoths.
http://s8int.com/index.html Check out the links "20th Century Dinosaurs" and "Dinosaurs in Literature, Art, & History". I'm sure those who belong to the religion of evolutionism will outright dismiss these things that fly against their belief system. But it's curious that the ancients were able to create incredibly detailed drawings and sculptures of these animals while scientists today can't even get it right. Brontosaurus burgers anyone? |
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I once wrote a story where it turned out thay had all been stolen by aliens, and taken to another planet with better facilities.  ...  lexfonteyne misspelled a word! i'm floored! are you ok lexypoo?!  I could use the excuse that I'm on some serious medication right now, which is true. So, yeah, I'll just go with that. I'm not even supposed to be out in the sun right now! Like the medication is going to make me a vampire. If you see a goat with fangs flying around, that's me. All Excuses  Serious medication indeed
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There is a very famous fossilized footprint, found in Montana, I believe (a place which is now a National Park), suggesting what happened to dinosaurs. This fossil is that of a dinosaurs' footprint, and that of a MAN, side by side. They were found on a hill pointing toward the mountains, or high ground, and had been made in mud. (I guess an internet search would be in order here.) A footprint of both a dinosaur, and a man, running in mud, uphill. Sounds to me like the law of nature, "kill or be killed, eat, or be eaten" was totally ignored that day, as these two organisms were running uphill in a very heavy rain (Uphill mud?), trying to save themselves from drowning. I would not be at all surprised if this fossil has gone mysteriously "missing". Nor would I be at all surprised if the near intact carcass of a velociraptor, along with a FOUR CHAMBERED HEART (like mammals and birds), and not a THREE CHAMBERED HEART (like a lizard), has gone mysteriously missing, as well. It is also interesting to note that dinosaur bones are typically found in sandstone, which indicates a large body of water once lay at that exact spot. It is of further interest that flying dinosaurs, etc., are typically found in the upper strata of this same sandstone. Couldn't pteradactyls and other flying creatures (not classified as dinosaurs) glide for forty days, and forty nights? Or did they finally tire, having fought the driving wind and rain, in addition to fatigue, to succumb to the monstrously huge, watery grave that had swallowed every living thing? Well, ALMOST every living thing. For more truly fascinating info on this subject, search, "Dr. Kent Hovind" (I went to his seminar), or, as he is more commonly known, "Dr. Dino". The truth will set you free. If you follow the events of the Bible, the earth is ALMOST only 7,000 years old. This would mean that, for a time, men and dinosaurs lived together on our same planet. This could not be allowed, however, as "early man" would not have been able to compete with dinosaurs for survival. Dinosaurs had to go. However, has anyone noticed that any current day sighting of a dinosaur (the most famous being "Nessie", in Loch Ness, Scotland), is that of an AQUATIC DINOSAUR? You may also be familiar with "Champ", the dinosaur which supposedly inhabits Lake Champlain, which borders Vermont, New York, and Quebec, Canada. Actually, I've seen video footage, taken by a very shaken man who was with his son on a tower overlooking Lake Champlain. It was that of a huge shadow, moving slowly across the lake, obviously a huge school of fish, I supposed at first. That was until I saw the plume of water spew from the nose end. These dinosaurs might have easily survived a flood. You were being funny here, right? |
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There's quite a lot more than just dinosaur and human tracks alongside each other. Numerous art/sculptures/engravings have been turning up that show humans not only hunting dinosaurs, but domesticating them. Of course they didn't call them dinosaurs but dragons or behemoths. http://s8int.com/index.html Check out the links "20th Century Dinosaurs" and "Dinosaurs in Literature, Art, & History". I'm sure those who belong to the religion of evolutionism will outright dismiss these things that fly against their belief system. But it's curious that the ancients were able to create incredibly detailed drawings and sculptures of these animals while scientists today can't even get it right. Brontosaurus burgers anyone? You are joking here, right? |
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http://www.answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2005/20050509_takingdinos.htm
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There's quite a lot more than just dinosaur and human tracks alongside each other. Numerous art/sculptures/engravings have been turning up that show humans not only hunting dinosaurs, but domesticating them. Of course they didn't call them dinosaurs but dragons or behemoths. http://s8int.com/index.html Check out the links "20th Century Dinosaurs" and "Dinosaurs in Literature, Art, & History". I'm sure those who belong to the religion of evolutionism will outright dismiss these things that fly against their belief system. But it's curious that the ancients were able to create incredibly detailed drawings and sculptures of these animals while scientists today can't even get it right. Brontosaurus burgers anyone? I always find it amuzing, in a sad sorta way, that those who have a religion believe that everyone must also have one. |
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What I find truly sad is how people cling to a doctrine that has been found wanting simply because it has to be true.
"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of the fossils." from "Evolution's Erratic Pace" Stephen Jay Gould We don't even have to get into upwardly mobile transitional fossils. Because we all know there aren't any. People point to one or two that later get discarded, but in reality there should be thousands if not millions of them. Of course there's a lot of hopeful speculation; a fish came on shore and became a wolf which became a cow which went for a swim and became a blue whale. The stuff of fantasy. Let's start with something simple Arcamedees! Describe a working model for the origin of life. |
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the real reason the dinosaurs all died
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 Not at all
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the real reason the dinosaurs all died 
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What I find truly sad is how people cling to a doctrine that has been found wanting simply because it has to be true. "The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of the fossils." from "Evolution's Erratic Pace" Stephen Jay Gould We don't even have to get into upwardly mobile transitional fossils. Because we all know there aren't any. People point to one or two that later get discarded, but in reality there should be thousands if not millions of them. Of course there's a lot of hopeful speculation; a fish came on shore and became a wolf which became a cow which went for a swim and became a blue whale. The stuff of fantasy. Let's start with something simple Arcamedees! Describe a working model for the origin of life. oh for the luv of pete, another one..... Look sparky, I'm not here to give you an edjamacation. Go back to school. Read some books, real ones with real information, not ones published by some religious organization. Or read some of the dozens of other posts on this site. After that, come back and we'll talk. or just wait till I'm not feeling sick and cranky...  
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the real reason the dinosaurs all died  |
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Yeah I figured you didn't actually have anything to say on the subject LOL. I'm sure you've gleaned a lot from your Archie comic books though. I'll leave you to it...
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