Topic: Good intentions gone bad,
AndyBgood's photo
Fri 08/21/09 11:25 AM
Obama sucks, just to get this out up front.

I have said this from the beginning.


Let me begin with one reason why.

TARP funds...

TWO big give aways with funny money (Inflation promoting currency printing) to the banks to hedge up their lending to stimulate the economy. If that was not one of the STUPIDEST things he could have ever done!

When the banks had no money and all the foreclosure property the banks were facing a dilemma in that they had all this property they are responsible to pay taxes on based on their value when the banks took them over. Originally this meant that the banks were going to be forced to drop prices to sell property.

THAT IS HOW ECONOMY IS SUPPOSED TO WORK! The banks were the ones setting the high price of property. Then they faced the consequences of their greed when big oil popped their bubble with gas at $4.50 a gallon.

Now comes TARP. Now the banks are flush with money and have no need or compelling force to make them drop prices to realistic levels. They also can pay off all those property taxes with the money they were given them. Have people complained? Hell yes! Has anyone listened? Hell no!

Have we seen an increase in lending?

NO!

Have we seen an increase in Home Buying? Mind you I work for Realtors.

HELL NO!

Have property values come down to realistic levels yet??

Seriously, are you going to make me answer that???

How about the credit industry in general? The banks have become down right greedy and hostile.

Obama's happy program to "Save" people who have mortgages higher than the value of their homes? I got two friends who paid attorneys to take advantage of that program and B of A is fighting them tooth and nail. The degree of belligerence of the banks is stunning.

The government needed to let the Banks eat **** instead of caving to political pressure and dumping an assload of money on them and then they started with giving themselves dividends and bonuses off of that money AGAIN!


Now the auto industry!

SAME 'F'ING THING! GM Tosses people off of the board with severance bonuses. They should have tossed them with nothing because of the money they had being BORROWED! these are the same people that brought us gas guzzling beasts like the Hummer instead of trying for an economical solution. At least Dodge tried really hard to straighten their act out. Ford told the government to keep their money! Ford also has been emphasizing economy cars in their line up although they did admit to too much emphasis on trucks in their line up but then again people were buying them. At least if GM folded that would have been a serious kick in the Labor Union's balls which they desperately need.

Health care...

Socializing it will only make things a lot worst. What government needs to address is WHY THE HELL IT IS SO FU**ING EXPENSIVE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE INCLUDING ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO HAVE NOT PAID INTO THE SYSTEM AND DON'T BELONG HERE EITHER!!!

Insurance... Not one peep over this titanic bleed of money and resources. Ever get sick, file a claim, and get denied? Then get left with a bill for thousands when the insurance company clearly has an obligation to pay out??? And then you have to hire and attorney and fight them???


FUEL AND ENERGY!!! Billions went to them and worst is how rates rose. Now here is my question, if we are paying companies to feed us power why is it that tax dollars need to be used to fix the infrastructure when the companies we give our checks to profit from the use of the grid or when we pay at the pump? Shouldn't they be using their own money to fix this **** instead of OUR money?

Now congressional spending.

Why hasn't Obama forced Congress to address all the pork barrel and useless programs money is bled to? He has not said word one about Financial Responsibilities. He just keeps coming up with Programs and by god if that was not the same **** Hitler pulled in the 1930's when Nazis ran Germany and they called them the same thing except the extermination of the Jews was a Program of Hitler's.


Obama's leadership is BLA BLA BLA. All talk and no substance.

Is the economy really showing signs of recovery?

PUHLEASE! AS IF!

Is Obama to blame for all of this?

No but he is to be blamed for his part in this mess.

He is helping out all the WRONG people.

flowerforyou

grneyedldy1967's photo
Fri 08/21/09 11:57 AM
I agree 100%. I knew he would not do our country any good because he was a nobody with very little if NO experience and not capable of running a country! With his ratings dropping it seems that some of the people that were blinded by his lies are waking up... maybe! grumble

kaylala's photo
Fri 08/21/09 12:04 PM
i didnt trust him from the start, but hoped that he would do right by our country, so i supported when he won, but hes making it really hard to stand behind him

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Fri 08/21/09 12:08 PM
I stand by him and what he is trying to accomplish despite the nahsayers and whiners.

just_jessie's photo
Fri 08/21/09 12:09 PM
I agree whole heartedly!!!



damnitscloudy's photo
Fri 08/21/09 12:12 PM

i didnt trust him from the start, but hoped that he would do right by our country, so i supported when he won, but hes making it really hard to stand behind him


Agreed. I gave him time to settle into office because I knew there was too much to do in a short time, but alot of choices hes made so far have been horrible.

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Fri 08/21/09 12:24 PM
It's far too soon to make any kind of judgment, it took years to get this country into the mess it's in, it'll take years to get out. I'm reserving judgment on his presidency for a good long while. He didn't create the mess but he damn sure got stuck with fixing the nearly-impossible to fix. We need to quit blaming and pointing fingers and start working together. Doesn't matter now whose fault it is.

raiderfan_32's photo
Fri 08/21/09 12:45 PM
He's not trying to fix anything.

He's trying to break it. Wants to break it all. (See his comments on Coal fired power plants and energy prices) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

And when it breaks, he'll sit back and say, "see them, those damn rich capitalist piggies, they're the ones to blame"

and all the Obamacrats will go right along and he'll have what he wants: legions of wrathful useless idiots who will storm the streets and burn hearth and home alike. Never paying attention (or purposefully ignoring) the fact that their great leader is the one that's been at the wheel of all the destructive economic policies. Cap and trade, single payer healthcare, subprime mortgages..

Thank you Saul Alinksy. Thank you Francis Piven. Thank you Richard Clower. Anti-Americans all. And Obama their disciple.

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Fri 08/21/09 12:48 PM

He's not trying to fix anything.

He's trying to break it. Wants to break it all. (See his comments on Coal fired power plants and energy prices) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

And when it breaks, he'll sit back and say, "see them, those damn rich capitalist piggies, they're the ones to blame"

and all the Obamacrats will go right along and he'll have what he wants: legions of wrathful useless idiots who will storm the streets and burn hearth and home alike. Never paying attention (or purposefully ignoring) the fact that their great leader is the one that's been at the wheel of all the destructive economic policies. Cap and trade, single payer healthcare, subprime mortgages..

Thank you Saul Alinksy. Thank you Francis Piven. Thank you Richard Clower. Anti-Americans all. And Obama their disciple.


Ah, so now people are "useless idiots" for not agreeing with your point of view? There are billions of people in this world, each with their own unique view point but everyone is a "useless idiot" but you? Talk about arrogance and idiocy.

willing2's photo
Fri 08/21/09 12:50 PM

Obama sucks, just to get this out up front.

I have said this from the beginning.


Let me begin with one reason why.

TARP funds...

TWO big give aways with funny money (Inflation promoting currency printing) to the banks to hedge up their lending to stimulate the economy. If that was not one of the STUPIDEST things he could have ever done!

When the banks had no money and all the foreclosure property the banks were facing a dilemma in that they had all this property they are responsible to pay taxes on based on their value when the banks took them over. Originally this meant that the banks were going to be forced to drop prices to sell property.

THAT IS HOW ECONOMY IS SUPPOSED TO WORK! The banks were the ones setting the high price of property. Then they faced the consequences of their greed when big oil popped their bubble with gas at $4.50 a gallon.

Now comes TARP. Now the banks are flush with money and have no need or compelling force to make them drop prices to realistic levels. They also can pay off all those property taxes with the money they were given them. Have people complained? Hell yes! Has anyone listened? Hell no!

Have we seen an increase in lending?

NO!

Have we seen an increase in Home Buying? Mind you I work for Realtors.

HELL NO!

Have property values come down to realistic levels yet??

Seriously, are you going to make me answer that???

How about the credit industry in general? The banks have become down right greedy and hostile.

Obama's happy program to "Save" people who have mortgages higher than the value of their homes? I got two friends who paid attorneys to take advantage of that program and B of A is fighting them tooth and nail. The degree of belligerence of the banks is stunning.

The government needed to let the Banks eat **** instead of caving to political pressure and dumping an assload of money on them and then they started with giving themselves dividends and bonuses off of that money AGAIN!


Now the auto industry!

SAME 'F'ING THING! GM Tosses people off of the board with severance bonuses. They should have tossed them with nothing because of the money they had being BORROWED! these are the same people that brought us gas guzzling beasts like the Hummer instead of trying for an economical solution. At least Dodge tried really hard to straighten their act out. Ford told the government to keep their money! Ford also has been emphasizing economy cars in their line up although they did admit to too much emphasis on trucks in their line up but then again people were buying them. At least if GM folded that would have been a serious kick in the Labor Union's balls which they desperately need.

Health care...

Socializing it will only make things a lot worst. What government needs to address is WHY THE HELL IT IS SO FU**ING EXPENSIVE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE INCLUDING ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO HAVE NOT PAID INTO THE SYSTEM AND DON'T BELONG HERE EITHER!!!

Insurance... Not one peep over this titanic bleed of money and resources. Ever get sick, file a claim, and get denied? Then get left with a bill for thousands when the insurance company clearly has an obligation to pay out??? And then you have to hire and attorney and fight them???


FUEL AND ENERGY!!! Billions went to them and worst is how rates rose. Now here is my question, if we are paying companies to feed us power why is it that tax dollars need to be used to fix the infrastructure when the companies we give our checks to profit from the use of the grid or when we pay at the pump? Shouldn't they be using their own money to fix this **** instead of OUR money?

Now congressional spending.

Why hasn't Obama forced Congress to address all the pork barrel and useless programs money is bled to? He has not said word one about Financial Responsibilities. He just keeps coming up with Programs and by god if that was not the same **** Hitler pulled in the 1930's when Nazis ran Germany and they called them the same thing except the extermination of the Jews was a Program of Hitler's.


Obama's leadership is BLA BLA BLA. All talk and no substance.

Is the economy really showing signs of recovery?

PUHLEASE! AS IF!

Is Obama to blame for all of this?

No but he is to be blamed for his part in this mess.

He is helping out all the WRONG people.

flowerforyou


Right on, Andy!!:thumbsup: drinker :thumbsup:

raiderfan_32's photo
Fri 08/21/09 12:54 PM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Fri 08/21/09 01:03 PM
I'm sorry. I mis-spoke. I meant useful idiot. (didn't coin the phrase, though) this is the kind of useful idiot I'm talking about..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc

Winx's photo
Fri 08/21/09 01:44 PM

I'm sorry. I mis-spoke. I meant useful idiot. (didn't coin the phrase, though) this is the kind of useful idiot I'm talking about..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc


Puh lease. We all know that the lady is a kook.

I've seen worse at the Palin rallies. They were downright scary.

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Fri 08/21/09 01:46 PM
:cry:

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Fri 08/21/09 01:50 PM


I'm sorry. I mis-spoke. I meant useful idiot. (didn't coin the phrase, though) this is the kind of useful idiot I'm talking about..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc


Puh lease. We all know that the lady is a kook.

I've seen worse at the Palin rallies. They were downright scary.


Well that's of course if he assumes she means he will pay for her gas and mortgage literally. Depends one what he wants his readers to believe.

raiderfan_32's photo
Fri 08/21/09 01:50 PM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Fri 08/21/09 01:50 PM


I'm sorry. I mis-spoke. I meant useful idiot. (didn't coin the phrase, though) this is the kind of useful idiot I'm talking about..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc


Puh lease. We all know that the lady is a kook.

I've seen worse at the Palin rallies. They were downright scary.


please, share with us, then, some of the attrocious behaviour you saw at the "Palin Rallies" as if you actually went to any..

no photo
Fri 08/21/09 01:59 PM



I'm sorry. I mis-spoke. I meant useful idiot. (didn't coin the phrase, though) this is the kind of useful idiot I'm talking about..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc


Puh lease. We all know that the lady is a kook.

I've seen worse at the Palin rallies. They were downright scary.


please, share with us, then, some of the attrocious behaviour you saw at the "Palin Rallies" as if you actually went to any..


Where were you? Almost every news channel photographed people acting out. I am sure if you cared you could find several on line.