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Is nothing sacred?
You can't escape Big Pharma propaganda ANYWHERE anymore. First they are all over Sunday Night Football and now MY Minnesota Viking Green Bay Monday Night game.  The stupid exams actually INCREASE Breast Cancer by popping the cysts the body diligently created around cancer cells and letting them out to multiply. This adds to Big Pharma's pocket book because they now have a new customer. Imagine our most supposedly most manly men wearing pink shoes and becoming whores for multi-billion dollar corporations. Oh- I guess they were already doing that - but still.  I know I'm a hypocrite for being a football fan when most of the owners are Masons and it is Roman style 'bread and circus' for the masses, but it's the one sport I enjoy watching. Keep your damn Pharmekia (sorcery) to the ever-present Cialis and Viagra commercials. I wish I was a player because I'd say 'where does it say in my contract that I have to where PINK shoes'? |
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Is nothing sacred? You can't escape Big Pharma propaganda ANYWHERE anymore. First they are all over Sunday Night Football and now MY Minnesota Viking Green Bay Monday Night game. The stupid exams actually INCREASE Breast Cancer by popping the cysts the body diligently created around cancer cells and letting them out to multiply. This adds to Big Pharma's pocket book because they now have a new customer. Imagine our most supposedly most manly men wearing pink shoes and becoming whores for multi-billion dollar corporations. Oh- I guess they were already doing that - but still. I know I'm a hypocrite for being a football fan when most of the owners are Masons and it is Roman style 'bread and circus' for the masses, but it's the one sport I enjoy watching. Keep your damn Pharmekia (sorcery) to the ever-present Cialis and Viagra commercials. I wish I was a player because I'd say 'where does it say in my contract that I have to where PINK shoes'? I don't know where you heard that exams increase breast cancer. The exams save lives. http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/CRI_2_1x.asp?dt=5 Men also get breast cancer. A man two houses away from me had his breast removed last year because of breast cancer. |
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Life and death have nothing to do with exams, or cancer for that matter - but people of the world would like you to believe they are here for your betterment when in fact all they want is your $$$$.
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Perhaps the place to begin is to learn a bit about the history of this organization. National Breast Cancer Awareness Month (NBCAM), or Breast Cancer Awareness Month as it was originally called, was the brainchild of a British chemical conglomerate called Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI), which became Zeneca Pharmaceuticals, and today is known as AstraZeneca.
By their own admission, AstraZeneca has spent several million dollars on the NBCAM project. What is behind their interest in Breast Cancer? For over the last 20 years, AstraZeneca was the manufacturer of one of the largest selling breast cancer drugs in the world: Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate). (According to a notice posted at www.nolvadex.com, Nolvadex is no longer manufactured or sold in the United States as of June 2006; however, the drug's generic form tamoxifen citrate is still available). Nolvadex is not a cure for cancer. It has been heavily prescribed as a drug to lessen the risk of reoccurrence in women who have previously received treatment for breast cancer. It was also approved for use as a "risk reduction" drug (the FDA would not allow the term "prevention"), and prescribed to women with no presence of breast cancer who are considered to be at elevated risk. This drug has been very profitable for AstraZeneca, with sales over $400 million annually, but it is also a very controversial drug. It has significant side effects that have been linked to uterine cancer, liver cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis, depression, eye damage, blood clots, and even breast cancer--the very condition it is supposed to treat! But the story doesn't stop there. AstraZeneca (ICI) is a chemical giant, and is one of the world's top producers of organochlorides, which are chlorine-based industrial chemicals. Organochlorides are used in the manufacture of a wide variety of compounds, including Agent Orange, PCB's, and DDT. Organochlorides are also known carcinogens, and studies have found them to be specifically associated with increased incidence of breast cancer. So here we have a corporation--a very large and profitable corporation with sales of $14 billion in 1998-- that makes its money from industrial chemicals that cause cancer and drugs that treat (and potentially cause) cancer. Incidentally, they also have a large financial stake in cancer treatment centers. This brings us to another major criticism of NBCAM: the focus of their efforts is almost exclusively on detection and treatment of breast cancer, not on prevention. This only makes sense since their main financial backer is a huge corporation that makes a fortune off the treatment of a disease they contribute to causing. But beyond that, breast cancer and cancers in general can be prevented through changes in diet and lifestyle, like staying away from chemicals and drugs that cause cancer! The problem with this is that prevention is very inexpensive and not very profitable. One more interesting thing about AstraZeneca's relationship with NBCAM is that part of the arrangement allows AstraZeneca to approve and/or veto any marketing materials related to NBCAM. Thus, you will not find anything related to environmental causes of breast cancer or how it can be prevented by avoiding exposure to them. The American Cancer Society minimizes the cancer risks from industrial chemicals and pesticides, and will not take a stand on environmental regulation. It is a very carefully controlled Public Relations ploy. Cancer treatment is big business in the United States. Some have called it "The Cancer Industry" or "Cancer, Inc." The corporate and financial connections form a long and winding road that goes far beyond AstraZeneca, and include such giants as DuPont and General Electric. Mammograms are the big buzz word as of late, and the push is on for women to get them at a younger and younger age. |
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Edited by
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Tue 10/06/09 07:24 PM
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Thank goodness that they're pushing women to get mammograms early!!
I had to ask to get one early when my Great-Aunt died of breast cancer. I hope they start pushing insurances to cover colonoscopies at an earlier age too. I don't care who started it or why breast cancer month got started. I'm glad it got started. Men and women need to be educated about it. Btw, my male neighbor that has it is receiving chemo. He has a 12 year old child. We're hoping for the best. "breast cancer and cancers in general can be prevented through changes in diet and lifestyle, like staying away from chemicals and drugs that cause cancer! The problem with this is that prevention is very inexpensive and not very profitable." Yes, diet and lifestyle are important but it's also difficult to prevent something that is inherited. That's why exams are important. |
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Perhaps the place to begin is to learn a bit about the history of this organization. National Breast Cancer Awareness Month (NBCAM), or Breast Cancer Awareness Month as it was originally called, was the brainchild of a British chemical conglomerate called Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI), which became Zeneca Pharmaceuticals, and today is known as AstraZeneca. By their own admission, AstraZeneca has spent several million dollars on the NBCAM project. What is behind their interest in Breast Cancer? For over the last 20 years, AstraZeneca was the manufacturer of one of the largest selling breast cancer drugs in the world: Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate). (According to a notice posted at www.nolvadex.com, Nolvadex is no longer manufactured or sold in the United States as of June 2006; however, the drug's generic form tamoxifen citrate is still available). Nolvadex is not a cure for cancer. It has been heavily prescribed as a drug to lessen the risk of reoccurrence in women who have previously received treatment for breast cancer. It was also approved for use as a "risk reduction" drug (the FDA would not allow the term "prevention"), and prescribed to women with no presence of breast cancer who are considered to be at elevated risk. This drug has been very profitable for AstraZeneca, with sales over $400 million annually, but it is also a very controversial drug. It has significant side effects that have been linked to uterine cancer, liver cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis, depression, eye damage, blood clots, and even breast cancer--the very condition it is supposed to treat! But the story doesn't stop there. AstraZeneca (ICI) is a chemical giant, and is one of the world's top producers of organochlorides, which are chlorine-based industrial chemicals. Organochlorides are used in the manufacture of a wide variety of compounds, including Agent Orange, PCB's, and DDT. Organochlorides are also known carcinogens, and studies have found them to be specifically associated with increased incidence of breast cancer. So here we have a corporation--a very large and profitable corporation with sales of $14 billion in 1998-- that makes its money from industrial chemicals that cause cancer and drugs that treat (and potentially cause) cancer. Incidentally, they also have a large financial stake in cancer treatment centers. This brings us to another major criticism of NBCAM: the focus of their efforts is almost exclusively on detection and treatment of breast cancer, not on prevention. This only makes sense since their main financial backer is a huge corporation that makes a fortune off the treatment of a disease they contribute to causing. But beyond that, breast cancer and cancers in general can be prevented through changes in diet and lifestyle, like staying away from chemicals and drugs that cause cancer! The problem with this is that prevention is very inexpensive and not very profitable. One more interesting thing about AstraZeneca's relationship with NBCAM is that part of the arrangement allows AstraZeneca to approve and/or veto any marketing materials related to NBCAM. Thus, you will not find anything related to environmental causes of breast cancer or how it can be prevented by avoiding exposure to them. The American Cancer Society minimizes the cancer risks from industrial chemicals and pesticides, and will not take a stand on environmental regulation. It is a very carefully controlled Public Relations ploy. Cancer treatment is big business in the United States. Some have called it "The Cancer Industry" or "Cancer, Inc." The corporate and financial connections form a long and winding road that goes far beyond AstraZeneca, and include such giants as DuPont and General Electric. Mammograms are the big buzz word as of late, and the push is on for women to get them at a younger and younger age. Please please leave a link to your articles, so we know where they come from. I appreciate the article and I don't particularly trust the whole mammogram push I'd like to know where you get your information. |
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Its just for breast cancer awareness month. If the color pink really offends you that much than I'd hate to see you in the barbie aisle of a toystore.
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Its just for breast cancer awareness month. If the color pink really offends you that much than I'd hate to see you in the barbie aisle of a toystore. It's the whole idea that these people are actually trying to prevent breast cancer. The whole thing is a fraud. All the walks, races, benefits, concerts, ad naseum haven't done an ounce of good. All that money will be wasted and further strengthen Big Pharma so that they can further enslave us. If you really want to cure cancer, completely dismantle the FDA and let all the suppressed treatments compete openly and let people choose how they want to be treated. Here's that link : http://www.whale.to/a/pink_ribbon.html Also search mammogram on www.mercola.com |
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Im lost, what do the sins of the chemical company have to do with jane and jill doe wearing a ribbon in recognition of those living with the disease?
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That's okay. You go right on ahead and spout off all you want. I wonder how fast you'll change your tune when it's YOUR girlfriend, YOUR wife, YOUR mother, YOUR sister, somebody YOU are close to gets diagnosed with this terrible affliction. It may even be YOURSELF (yes, men can get it, too!). Are you still gonna be bitching THEN?
I'm very much aware that "drugs" do not "cure" ANY affliction, cancer or otherwise. Never have, never will. All they do is quiet the problem for a while, because there's no money in wellness. Therefore, drugs only really serve to keep a person sick, and people buy into the idea that they're helping them, so they keep buying and taking that pill every day for the rest of their lives, in turn continuously creating more and more revenue for Big Pharma. This disease is different, because it can strike anybody. It's a killer, and at least they're trying to find a way to fix it. I think it's absolutely fantastic the the NFL has thrown their hat in the ring for doing what they can to help promote awareness for this deadly affliction. When it comes to taking care of the beloved women in their lives, it takes a REAL man to not be embarrassed to wear pink. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Thu 10/08/09 07:56 AM
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Its just for breast cancer awareness month. If the color pink really offends you that much than I'd hate to see you in the barbie aisle of a toystore. It's the whole idea that these people are actually trying to prevent breast cancer. The whole thing is a fraud. All the walks, races, benefits, concerts, ad naseum haven't done an ounce of good. All that money will be wasted and further strengthen Big Pharma so that they can further enslave us. If you really want to cure cancer, completely dismantle the FDA and let all the suppressed treatments compete openly and let people choose how they want to be treated. Here's that link : http://www.whale.to/a/pink_ribbon.html Also search mammogram on www.mercola.com Those mammograms found the cancer in my Great-Aunt. Unfortunately it was too late because she didn't have an early one. She died in her 40's and left behind a young child. I've heard that story too many times from my friends. I have friends that run for the fundraiser, Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure. The money raised is for research. |
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That's okay. You go right on ahead and spout off all you want. I wonder how fast you'll change your tune when it's YOUR girlfriend, YOUR wife, YOUR mother, YOUR sister, somebody YOU are close to gets diagnosed with this terrible affliction. It may even be YOURSELF (yes, men can get it, too!). Are you still gonna be bitching THEN? I'm very much aware that "drugs" do not "cure" ANY affliction, cancer or otherwise. Never have, never will. All they do is quiet the problem for a while, because there's no money in wellness. Therefore, drugs only really serve to keep a person sick, and people buy into the idea that they're helping them, so they keep buying and taking that pill every day for the rest of their lives, in turn continuously creating more and more revenue for Big Pharma. This disease is different, because it can strike anybody. It's a killer, and at least they're trying to find a way to fix it. I think it's absolutely fantastic the the NFL has thrown their hat in the ring for doing what they can to help promote awareness for this deadly affliction. When it comes to taking care of the beloved women in their lives, it takes a REAL man to not be embarrassed to wear pink. Thank you for saying that, I was thinking it. And actually the money raised has been extremely beneficial. A, it's made for more awareness, many lives have been saved from finding it early and seeking help; B, the drugs they have now, while still horrendous, are nothing to what they were 20 or 30 years ago; C, breast cancer used to be a death sentence, now, it many (most?) cases, it's not, thanks to the money thrown into research. One out of 3 people will be affected by breast cancer, men and women, children, brothers, sisters, parents, friends, family. It's a horrible disease. If you can't deal with that reality for what, 60 seconds, tough ****. If you actually paid attention instead of bitching about something you are clearly ignorant of, you might learn something, even if it's just a little bit of compassion. |
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Its just for breast cancer awareness month. If the color pink really offends you that much than I'd hate to see you in the barbie aisle of a toystore. 
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Is nothing sacred? You can't escape Big Pharma propaganda ANYWHERE anymore. First they are all over Sunday Night Football and now MY Minnesota Viking Green Bay Monday Night game. The stupid exams actually INCREASE Breast Cancer by popping the cysts the body diligently created around cancer cells and letting them out to multiply. This adds to Big Pharma's pocket book because they now have a new customer. Imagine our most supposedly most manly men wearing pink shoes and becoming whores for multi-billion dollar corporations. Oh- I guess they were already doing that - but still. I know I'm a hypocrite for being a football fan when most of the owners are Masons and it is Roman style 'bread and circus' for the masses, but it's the one sport I enjoy watching. Keep your damn Pharmekia (sorcery) to the ever-present Cialis and Viagra commercials. I wish I was a player because I'd say 'where does it say in my contract that I have to where PINK shoes'? You know what,, I played semi pro, and high school, and i would not have thought twice about wearing something that helps out. for my office i helped raise money for research and other things. I have no questions about my manhood,, and have big issue with you downplaying the importance of this cancer. My grandmother died from this cancer,, and how dare you attack peoples support of it? |
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Its just for breast cancer awareness month. If the color pink really offends you that much than I'd hate to see you in the barbie aisle of a toystore. It's the whole idea that these people are actually trying to prevent breast cancer. The whole thing is a fraud. All the walks, races, benefits, concerts, ad naseum haven't done an ounce of good. All that money will be wasted and further strengthen Big Pharma so that they can further enslave us. If you really want to cure cancer, completely dismantle the FDA and let all the suppressed treatments compete openly and let people choose how they want to be treated. Here's that link : http://www.whale.to/a/pink_ribbon.html Also search mammogram on www.mercola.com |
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Speaking from one who has just had her 2nd Mascetomy- You honor men running around a field throwing a ball making hundreds of thousands of $ a GAME!!!!!!!! and you have the nerve to complain that they are honoring us who have cancer, with 2 sisters (one died) and all the money from fund raising goes to pharmo? Where in the h*ll do you DARE come off spouting you ignorance because you looked up 1 web site that gave you the info you wanted to quote.
You and it are so way off. I have done more research on BC since my first in 01 that couldn't be replaced than you will in a lifetime of watching football my young friend. Ignorance is bliss. Print your page and in ten years from now- kick yourself for how young, inexperienced and condesending you sounded to a world of people who know far more than you ever will. BTW- DID you KNOW also that women who have breast cancer in their family have MAY have certain genes that their brothers may have that runs them a REAL high risk of pancreatic and prostrate cancer. BUT Science has yet to determine which comes first- Yes.. the Pharmacy companies have it over but they DO the Research. And our Fundraising, putting out the pink for Wakeup calls is for ALL. Football players were making that kind of $ long before the drug companies jumped on board. Do they help out? Do they say "All the money each player is making today from both teams, all the seat costs, parking etc will go to research for Breast or ANY Cancer today"? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Learn what you're talking about before spouting off your mouth and making yourself look incredibly insipid whining because your game players showed a morsel of support for women who suffer this insideous disease then have tro deal with the idealistic society that insists that you are what you look like and a vast majority of people buy right into it.. I know that one too my dear. |
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All that money gets collected...
and yet still there is no cure. But someone buys lab equipment... and the equipment manufactures make money... someone adminsters to the funds... and gets payed a handsome salery. New drugs hit the market every few years... Each with its big price tag. I know someone personally that is recovering from breast cancer... She went from haveing one doctor to 6 doctors... (each of course did NOT donate their time... $$$) She now has only one lung... (the other was burned so badly by the radiation treatments that it does not work). Her immune system was destroyed by the chemo and has never recovered... AND SHE PAYED FOR EVER FOUL THING THEY DID TO HER... Non-profit organizations are only required to pass on 51% of collected moneys to the cause they are collecting for. i.e if they collect $100 someone pockets $49... Looks like a scam, smells like a scam... Gee... Must be a scam. |
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All that money gets collected... and yet still there is no cure. But someone buys lab equipment... and the equipment manufactures make money... someone adminsters to the funds... and gets payed a handsome salery. New drugs hit the market every few years... Each with its big price tag. I know someone personally that is recovering from breast cancer... She went from haveing one doctor to 6 doctors... (each of course did NOT donate their time... $$$) She now has only one lung... (the other was burned so badly by the radiation treatments that it does not work). Her immune system was destroyed by the chemo and has never recovered... AND SHE PAYED FOR EVER FOUL THING THEY DID TO HER... Non-profit organizations are only required to pass on 51% of collected moneys to the cause they are collecting for. i.e if they collect $100 someone pockets $49... Looks like a scam, smells like a scam... Gee... Must be a scam. |
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All that money gets collected... and yet still there is no cure. But someone buys lab equipment... and the equipment manufactures make money... someone adminsters to the funds... and gets payed a handsome salery. New drugs hit the market every few years... Each with its big price tag. I know someone personally that is recovering from breast cancer... She went from haveing one doctor to 6 doctors... (each of course did NOT donate their time... $$$) She now has only one lung... (the other was burned so badly by the radiation treatments that it does not work). Her immune system was destroyed by the chemo and has never recovered... AND SHE PAYED FOR EVER FOUL THING THEY DID TO HER... Non-profit organizations are only required to pass on 51% of collected moneys to the cause they are collecting for. i.e if they collect $100 someone pockets $49... Looks like a scam, smells like a scam... Gee... Must be a scam. And how many are being ruined by what they DO do? The cure was worse than the cancer... and the bills are more than the income... Bet there is a cure! |
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so with your logic its better to do nothing and die quick and in alot of pain than to find out and fight with everything you have. Great Logic.
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