Topic: Clinton at unveiling of statue of himself
Atlantis75's photo
Tue 11/03/09 03:45 PM

Why, Atlantis? They were both presidents of ours.

Clinton was the only one of the cheating presidents put on trial for their personal affairs.


Because Clinton did not and never will be like JFK. It's not even "apples" and "oranges", but more like an apple and an entire orange forest.

JFK handled the cold war and possibly stopped a nuclear holocaust, put a man on the Moon, while Clinton bombed the hell out of Serbia and got a BJ from Monica.

raiderfan_32's photo
Wed 11/04/09 02:46 PM

Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/04/09 02:52 PM

Haha, what a joke, honoring an adulterer and a liar who at the time was a President.

Way ta go!
laugh rofl laugh

They can have him!:wink:




drinker

KerryO's photo
Wed 11/04/09 04:10 PM
Edited by KerryO on Wed 11/04/09 04:12 PM


Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.


raiderfan_32's photo
Wed 11/04/09 04:45 PM



Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




Call it selective board reading on your part, for all I know.. I just know I remember reading at least as much about Sanford and his Brazilian mistress on this board..

I know I've read several references on this to the senator or house rep that was busted for solicitation in a mens toilet..

Again, I was just addressing the assertion by one of the posters here that politicians' private sex lives ought to remain private.. when the only politician she seemed to want to apply it to was the Clinton..


Atlantis75's photo
Wed 11/04/09 04:50 PM
Hillary also have a bust done



sick

Quietman_2009's photo
Wed 11/04/09 04:51 PM



Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




prolly cause none of them developed into a caricature of the philandering dirty old man on late night television like Clinton did

they had their affairs but Clinton had one right after the other and kept getting caught

Jenifer Flowers

Paula Jones

Monica Lewinsky

and now recently

Gina Gershon

and Belinda Stronach

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:01 PM




Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




Call it selective board reading on your part, for all I know.. I just know I remember reading at least as much about Sanford and his Brazilian mistress on this board..

I know I've read several references on this to the senator or house rep that was busted for solicitation in a mens toilet..

Again, I was just addressing the assertion by one of the posters here that politicians' private sex lives ought to remain private.. when the only politician she seemed to want to apply it to was the Clinton..






:smile: It shouldn't be private if they run for office by promoting themselves as being for conservative "family values":smile:That makes them hypocrites:smile:That opens their family values up to public scrutiny:smile:

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:03 PM




Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




prolly cause none of them developed into a caricature of the philandering dirty old man on late night television like Clinton did

they had their affairs but Clinton had one right after the other and kept getting caught

Jenifer Flowers

Paula Jones

Monica Lewinsky

and now recently

Gina Gershon

and Belinda Stronach



ohhh , so its not actually the affair its the NUMBER of affairs, I will have to make a note...

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:07 PM
IMagine this conversation,,,



Patient,,"Oh, look at Dr Smith, He is an excellent Doctor , if it werent for his heart transplant I wouldnt be alive "


Other patient" Oh,, thats hilarious that you honor him, he is an adulterer,, but you can have him,,,"



Kind of silly,, huh?

shrugs


People are more than their mistakes and their accomplishents dont deserve to go unrecognized because of their mistakes or none of us would ever be appreciated for anything.

KerryO's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:11 PM




Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




Call it selective board reading on your part, for all I know.. I just know I remember reading at least as much about Sanford and his Brazilian mistress on this board..

I know I've read several references on this to the senator or house rep that was busted for solicitation in a mens toilet..

Again, I was just addressing the assertion by one of the posters here that politicians' private sex lives ought to remain private.. when the only politician she seemed to want to apply it to was the Clinton..





And I was just addressing the one-sidedness and inconsistency on the part of Conservatives who play from a different rule book when it comes to people like Gingrich. Wasn't it Ronald Reagan Himself who said, "Never speak ill of another Republican."?

I really dislike Clinton for what his dalliances did-- he was a fool for falling right into the trap the Far Right set for him. All the time that got wasted on this is as much his fault as theirs. And it compromised all the good he might have been able to accomplish on initiatives like healthcare reform and a more permanent deficit reduction.

Instead, it just set the stage for the Bush II years.

-Kerry O.

Atlantis75's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:14 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 11/04/09 05:15 PM
Hate to say it, and I'm not against Kosovo, but it has became of the organized crime capital of Europe, or maybe even the world.


EC: Crime, corruption grave problems in Kosovo

BRUSSELS -- A grave concern in Kosovo is crime and corruption, money laundering and the deficit in the rule of law, states the European Commission’s latest report.

The EC does, however, state that political stability has been preserved. “Certain progress has been made in adopting laws and strengthening administrative capacity,” notes the document seen by Beta.

"Local authorities’ capacities are weak,” says the report on implementing EU standards and reforms, which will be officially published today, stressing that “decentralization in the interests of all communities is still the key challenge.”

“There has been no progress made in solving cases related to the events of March 2004,” the EC states, even though the report does not state that these events consisted of mass attacks by Albanian extremists on the lives, property and churches of the Kosovo Serbs.

It also states that “there is much concern over the security situation in the north (of Kosovo),” where “the rule of law has not been established.”


http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=10&dd=14&nav_id=62339

KerryO's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:18 PM



prolly cause none of them developed into a caricature of the philandering dirty old man on late night television like Clinton did

they had their affairs but Clinton had one right after the other and kept getting caught

Jenifer Flowers

Paula Jones

Monica Lewinsky

and now recently

Gina Gershon

and Belinda Stronach


Oh, you mean the liberal National Mainstream Media(tm)? :)

Thankfully, I haven't been able to receive ANY television broadcasts since June. I don't miss the talking heads one little bit. I'm just hoping this godawful recession is soon over so I have a teeny bit more disposable income with which to buy books.

-Kerry O.

Quietman_2009's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:30 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Wed 11/04/09 05:30 PM
I dunno. I'm talking about Leno and Letterman

tney created a caricature of Clinton that was believed and accepted by the masses. The same as they did to Bush as a bumbling simpleton


Quietman_2009's photo
Wed 11/04/09 05:32 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Wed 11/04/09 05:33 PM

IMagine this conversation,,,



Patient,,"Oh, look at Dr Smith, He is an excellent Doctor , if it werent for his heart transplant I wouldnt be alive "


Other patient" Oh,, thats hilarious that you honor him, he is an adulterer,, but you can have him,,,"



Kind of silly,, huh?

shrugs


People are more than their mistakes and their accomplishents dont deserve to go unrecognized because of their mistakes or none of us would ever be appreciated for anything.


how about Dr Smith is an excellent doctor but he has had several sexual harrassment charges against him and was formally charged with obstruction of justice in one of them

but they dropped the charges in return for a $850,000 settlement

KerryO's photo
Wed 11/04/09 06:05 PM

I dunno. I'm talking about Leno and Letterman

tney created a caricature of Clinton that was believed and accepted by the masses. The same as they did to Bush as a bumbling simpleton




Ah, but neither of them were firebreathing Puritans calling for impeachment with extreme prejudice or locking him in the stocks in the town square with the Scarlet Letter on his forehead.

If I remember the statistics correctly, the polls said most people wanted censure, not impeachment.

I suspect you've also read Hawthorne. Kinda hard to tell in the present day version of 'The Scarlet Letter' which characters are Prynne, Dimmesdale or Chillingworth, though.


-Kerry O.

no photo
Wed 11/04/09 06:14 PM





Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




Call it selective board reading on your part, for all I know.. I just know I remember reading at least as much about Sanford and his Brazilian mistress on this board..

I know I've read several references on this to the senator or house rep that was busted for solicitation in a mens toilet..

Again, I was just addressing the assertion by one of the posters here that politicians' private sex lives ought to remain private.. when the only politician she seemed to want to apply it to was the Clinton..





And I was just addressing the one-sidedness and inconsistency on the part of Conservatives who play from a different rule book when it comes to people like Gingrich. Wasn't it Ronald Reagan Himself who said, "Never speak ill of another Republican."?

I really dislike Clinton for what his dalliances did-- he was a fool for falling right into the trap the Far Right set for him. All the time that got wasted on this is as much his fault as theirs. And it compromised all the good he might have been able to accomplish on initiatives like healthcare reform and a more permanent deficit reduction.

Instead, it just set the stage for the Bush II years.

-Kerry O.


That is not the point here. We are talking about Clinton. I'm a staunch conservative but I hold ALL politicians responsible for their actions. I don't give a rats arse who they are. So once again someone has labeled a conservative in the wrong manner. It looks the opposite way to me. They defend the worst ones and call us crybabies when we want the dems held accountable. Yet when it's a republican they foam at the mouths like rabid dogs. Byrd made a racist comment, why the hell did he stay in office after saying that. The list goes on and I repeat, I don't give a damn what political affiliation a politician is, I hold them responsible for their behavior. slaphead

KerryO's photo
Thu 11/05/09 02:52 AM






Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




Call it selective board reading on your part, for all I know.. I just know I remember reading at least as much about Sanford and his Brazilian mistress on this board..

I know I've read several references on this to the senator or house rep that was busted for solicitation in a mens toilet..

Again, I was just addressing the assertion by one of the posters here that politicians' private sex lives ought to remain private.. when the only politician she seemed to want to apply it to was the Clinton..





And I was just addressing the one-sidedness and inconsistency on the part of Conservatives who play from a different rule book when it comes to people like Gingrich. Wasn't it Ronald Reagan Himself who said, "Never speak ill of another Republican."?

I really dislike Clinton for what his dalliances did-- he was a fool for falling right into the trap the Far Right set for him. All the time that got wasted on this is as much his fault as theirs. And it compromised all the good he might have been able to accomplish on initiatives like healthcare reform and a more permanent deficit reduction.

Instead, it just set the stage for the Bush II years.

-Kerry O.


That is not the point here. We are talking about Clinton. I'm a staunch conservative but I hold ALL politicians responsible for their actions. I don't give a rats arse who they are. So once again someone has labeled a conservative in the wrong manner. It looks the opposite way to me. They defend the worst ones and call us crybabies when we want the dems held accountable. Yet when it's a republican they foam at the mouths like rabid dogs. Byrd made a racist comment, why the hell did he stay in office after saying that. The list goes on and I repeat, I don't give a damn what political affiliation a politician is, I hold them responsible for their behavior. slaphead


You do? So, you agree that what Gingrich did was just as bad and you'll lambast him with the same vigor Conservatives usually reserve for Clinton?

We're all ears...


-Kerry O.

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 11/05/09 07:17 AM
problem is that people are confusing moral indiscretion with criminal activity

Clinton wasn't impeached for being an adulter. He was impeached for giving false statements in a legal deposition (count one: perjury) and for using the power of the office of the President to hinder a legal investigation in a civil suit (count two: obstruction of justice)

it sounds good to say it's no one's business what goes on in his bedroom and that is true. But that wasn't why he was impeached

no photo
Thu 11/05/09 07:34 AM







Isn't it funny that when a cheating conservative gets caught, he needs the prayers of the other conservatives for being only human. Yet, when a cheating non-conservative is caught, it's 'grab your pitchforks' and 'those who vote for cheaters are as morally bankrupt as the cheater' (even though the vote preceded the revelation).

Bonus question: what do Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton have in common?

-Kerry O. "Sauce for the goose."





excuse me, but it was one of the most liberal socialists on this board that was arguing that was arguing that politicians' sex lives weren't for public consumption..

I never said anything about offering prayers for conservatives souls for their transgressions..

just pointing out that the mouthful of spit swishes to both sides, much to the chagrin of those that would pardon the Clinton for derilecting his duty getting a shine job in the Oval Office when he was on the clock..



I don't think I've ever heard a harsh word uttered on this board against Speaker of the House Gingrich, who many seem to idolize as the Moses of the New Conservative movement. What, don't conservatives have a problem with a spouse who cheats on his wife who has cancer unless he's a Democrat?

And do we even have to go into the Sen. Ensign affair? Or Governor Sanford? Why no clever little double entendres about them or Gingrich?

Pot. Kettle.

-Kerry O.




Call it selective board reading on your part, for all I know.. I just know I remember reading at least as much about Sanford and his Brazilian mistress on this board..

I know I've read several references on this to the senator or house rep that was busted for solicitation in a mens toilet..

Again, I was just addressing the assertion by one of the posters here that politicians' private sex lives ought to remain private.. when the only politician she seemed to want to apply it to was the Clinton..





And I was just addressing the one-sidedness and inconsistency on the part of Conservatives who play from a different rule book when it comes to people like Gingrich. Wasn't it Ronald Reagan Himself who said, "Never speak ill of another Republican."?

I really dislike Clinton for what his dalliances did-- he was a fool for falling right into the trap the Far Right set for him. All the time that got wasted on this is as much his fault as theirs. And it compromised all the good he might have been able to accomplish on initiatives like healthcare reform and a more permanent deficit reduction.

Instead, it just set the stage for the Bush II years.

-Kerry O.


That is not the point here. We are talking about Clinton. I'm a staunch conservative but I hold ALL politicians responsible for their actions. I don't give a rats arse who they are. So once again someone has labeled a conservative in the wrong manner. It looks the opposite way to me. They defend the worst ones and call us crybabies when we want the dems held accountable. Yet when it's a republican they foam at the mouths like rabid dogs. Byrd made a racist comment, why the hell did he stay in office after saying that. The list goes on and I repeat, I don't give a damn what political affiliation a politician is, I hold them responsible for their behavior. slaphead


You do? So, you agree that what Gingrich did was just as bad and you'll lambast him with the same vigor Conservatives usually reserve for Clinton?

We're all ears...


-Kerry O.


Was Gingrich ever the President of the United States of America? Not in my world. sheesh How often to you hear a dem asking for a corrupt dem to step down? Not too often my dear, I have spoken out against republicans in the past.

Another brick wallfrustrated