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Topic: They drive me nuts!
Peccy Joined Thu 06/28/07 Posts: 17181	Mon 12/21/09 02:54 PM Edited by Peccy on Mon 12/21/09 02:56 PM
Religions that is, Christianity in particular. They're called apologists, but they make no apologies for their god - only excuses. "We cannot question him." They have a concept of what is moral and immoral. They know the murder of children is wrong and if anyone ordered them to slaughter innocents they would call them disgusting and tell them to go to that hot place....lol. But the god they worship is not held to such moral standards, not even for what they know is immoral. If these acts are evil acts when a person does them then they are still evil when god does them...even more so because the claim is that he loves, protects and guides. So he is deceptive, a murderer and a trickster for the role he played in the whole temptation in the garden story. Churches teach double-think and that is the main trick of a dictator or tyrant. To make people think war is peace, hate is love, evil is good and so on. This religion has people so fully into this worship of an invisible deity and so into the belief of impossible and silly stories. But these stories were written by mere MEN who only CLAIMED it was inspired by god and that the spirit possessed them write with no proof and over 500 years later. And we are the crazy ones?

TexasScoundrel Joined Wed 10/29/08 Posts: 3693	Mon 12/28/09 04:04 PM
I just wish they'd leave me alone when I'm trying to have a good time. I'm 47, I have heard the "good news" many, many times already.

massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Fri 01/29/10 03:39 PM
Peccy - I always enjoy reading your posts. I don't have anything to add, question, debate, or affirm...aside from 'thanks for posting'.

LadyOfMagic Joined Fri 09/29/06 Posts: 4957	Wed 03/24/10 07:10 PM
I never even knew this topic was here..LOL..Everytime I mention anything about being an atheist I get a million questions on why and how could I possibly be one..well,my answer is ALWAYS the same.."Live an hour of my life and you will understand!"..lol

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Tue 03/30/10 11:31 AM
Religions that is, Christianity in particular. They're called apologists, but they make no apologies for their god - only excuses. "We cannot question him." They have a concept of what is moral and immoral. They know the murder of children is wrong and if anyone ordered them to slaughter innocents they would call them disgusting and tell them to go to that hot place....lol. But the god they worship is not held to such moral standards, not even for what they know is immoral. If these acts are evil acts when a person does them then they are still evil when god does them...even more so because the claim is that he loves, protects and guides. So he is deceptive, a murderer and a trickster for the role he played in the whole temptation in the garden story. Churches teach double-think and that is the main trick of a dictator or tyrant. To make people think war is peace, hate is love, evil is good and so on. This religion has people so fully into this worship of an invisible deity and so into the belief of impossible and silly stories. But these stories were written by mere MEN who only CLAIMED it was inspired by god and that the spirit possessed them write with no proof and over 500 years later. And we are the crazy ones? yeah, doublethink drives me crazy too. And one can't use logic to break it. They have it so ingrained, most of the time, that if Jesus came down and told 'em it was b.s., they'd say it wasn't. One of my favorite examples of double think: Christians: We're praying for you! me: Do you believe prayer works? christians: Of course! If any 2 or more christians agree in God's name....blah blah blah me: So...what are you praying for me? christians: That you'll see the light and come to Jesus! me: And you believe this'll happen? christians: Absolutely! If any 2 christians...blah blah blah.. me: So...all I have to do to prove your religion is false and your God is a liar is die and go to hell? christians: umm...well no...that would be your choice.... me: But you just said prayer works and you're praying for me to see the light so that choice should already be made for me. christians: umm...no...that's a choice only you can make... me: But you JUST said a minute ago... and on and on and on....

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Tue 03/30/10 11:38 AM
I never even knew this topic was here..LOL..Everytime I mention anything about being an atheist I get a million questions on why and how could I possibly be one..well,my answer is ALWAYS the same.."Live an hour of my life and you will understand!"..lol When I'm asked "how could I not believe?" I answer with "how can you believe?". When I'm asked "don't you believe in some sort of god, somewhere, out there?" I answer with "Don't you believe in some sort of leprecons(sp?) or unicorns?". I have just as much proof of their existance.

donthatoneguy Joined Wed 03/31/10 Posts: 311	Mon 04/05/10 01:57 PM
Nice. I like the unicorn remark. I always say "Because all my friends are atheists and if they're going to hell, I want someone cool to hang out with for eternity."

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Tue 04/06/10 08:16 PM
Nice. I like the unicorn remark. I always say "Because all my friends are atheists and if they're going to hell, I want someone cool to hang out with for eternity." When they tell me I'm going to Hell, I say "Good. I have friends there. They'll set me up. Plus Satan could use a few pointers in tactics." That usually gets gasps of disbelief. I rather like getting gasps from "good" christians.

Inkracer Joined Tue 12/16/08 Posts: 881	Thu 06/03/10 06:27 PM
There are several things I can't stand, and don't understand. Why is it sane to say "God speaks to me", but insane to add "by morse code in the rain" ? Why is it considered right to believe in god without evidence, but crazy to believe in fairies in the garden, with exactly the same amount of evidence. Of course, conspiracy theorists and the (more fundamental) theists have a lot in common. Both are willing to bend the truth, ignore facts, and flat-out lie, so that their version of the "truth" is heard. Of course, the sooner we ride ourselves of non-sense, the better we will be.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Fri 08/06/10 01:19 PM Edited by RKISIT on Fri 08/06/10 01:22 PM
Religions that is, Christianity in particular. They're called apologists, but they make no apologies for their god - only excuses. "We cannot question him." They have a concept of what is moral and immoral. They know the murder of children is wrong and if anyone ordered them to slaughter innocents they would call them disgusting and tell them to go to that hot place....lol. But the god they worship is not held to such moral standards, not even for what they know is immoral. If these acts are evil acts when a person does them then they are still evil when god does them...even more so because the claim is that he loves, protects and guides. So he is deceptive, a murderer and a trickster for the role he played in the whole temptation in the garden story. Churches teach double-think and that is the main trick of a dictator or tyrant. To make people think war is peace, hate is love, evil is good and so on. This religion has people so fully into this worship of an invisible deity and so into the belief of impossible and silly stories. But these stories were written by mere MEN who only CLAIMED it was inspired by god and that the spirit possessed them write with no proof and over 500 years later. And we are the crazy ones? don't worry about people who believe and worship a non existing being or whatever they choose to call "god" just rip on verses in the bible and other religions beliefs,thats what makes a nonbeliever feel better, why someone does what they do when it comes to their morals that always seem to be opposite in a book they worship means one thing, they are following the herd

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Tue 08/10/10 05:42 PM
There are several things I can't stand, and don't understand. Why is it sane to say "God speaks to me", but insane to add "by morse code in the rain" ? Why is it considered right to believe in god without evidence, but crazy to believe in fairies in the garden, with exactly the same amount of evidence. Of course, conspiracy theorists and the (more fundamental) theists have a lot in common. Both are willing to bend the truth, ignore facts, and flat-out lie, so that their version of the "truth" is heard. Of course, the sooner we ride ourselves of non-sense, the better we will be. never happen. more's the pity

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Sun 10/03/10 03:09 PM
MassageTrader wrote: Peccy - I always enjoy reading your posts. I don't have anything to add, question, debate, or affirm...aside from 'thanks for posting'. Yeah, me too. I just came to this forum for the first time as an "agnostic". As soon as I saw that Peccy was posting here I clicked on this thread first because I knew I could count on it to be an intelligent post. Ink Racer Wrote. Why is it considered right to believe in god without evidence, but crazy to believe in fairies in the garden, with exactly the same amount of evidence. Truly. I'm actually a person who believes in fairies too! However, I believe in them in a totally different way from the way that Christians believe in their biblical myth. I believe in fairies as an archetypal consciousness of humanity. I won't even attempt to go into an explanation of that. But the bottom line is that if the Christians believed in their mythology in the same way we'd all be far better off. Peccy wrote: To make people think war is peace, hate is love, evil is good and so on. This religion has people so fully into this worship of an invisible deity and so into the belief of impossible and silly stories. But these stories were written by mere MEN who only CLAIMED it was inspired by god and that the spirit possessed them write with no proof and over 500 years later. Truly, these ancient stories are even used to support and perpetuate really bad parenting skills as well, IMHO. I see no value in this religious mythology either.

Peccy Joined Thu 06/28/07 Posts: 17181	Wed 10/06/10 05:58 AM Edited by Peccy on Wed 10/06/10 05:59 AM
Thank you Abracadabra, not sure if I deserve that kind of praise though coming from someone as well spoken and analytical as yourself. I am just a poster of what I think and see. But thanks for the compliments my friend!

ImRu2 Joined Thu 06/23/11 Posts: 676	Sat 06/25/11 09:11 AM
sounds like a dragon in my garade theory

jrbogie Joined Sat 03/01/08 Posts: 2490	Sat 06/25/11 11:30 AM
don't understand why you'd allow anybody, christians, muslims, folk singers, the local corvette club or any group to drive you nuts, peccy. simply ignore folks who drive you nuts. but if the faithful do affect you so you are nuts for entering a forum like this. lol.

iphoneguy Joined Sat 04/23/11 Posts: 42	Sun 06/26/11 12:47 AM Edited by iphoneguy on Sun 06/26/11 12:50 AM
its funny, I saw this post and i immediately said "omg finally people who think like me!" i spent the past year writing about religion. i've taken a lot of heat from people for it. i was born into a muslim family and left islam at 16, i explored Judaism and christianity. its all BS i'm almost 26 now. anyway its funny because i'm completely surrounded by religion obsessed people (christianity Judaism islam etc etc). i have a disease called muscular dystrophy, everyone has this misconception that i'm "angry at god," so i deny his existence lol. it can't possibly be because i'm RATIONAL? to the OP, i feel your frustration bro. i can't eat pork in my own house because my family is obsessed with islam. i had someone tell me a few weeks ago, this Christian girl, "please believe, i want you to be in heaven with me." i just looked at her like seriously? anyway that's enough ranting, if anyone wants to read my blog about religion and how i debunked Judaism islam and christianity, send me a message i don't think i'm allowed to post it here, i would love some feedback from fellow atheists/agnostics, especially since everyone whos read it is religion obsessed.

ImRu2 Joined Thu 06/23/11 Posts: 676	Sun 06/26/11 01:33 PM
Favorite question to ask a christion..for me at least is..... If money is the root of all evil...why do churches keep asking for it?

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Mon 06/27/11 02:45 PM
its funny, I saw this post and i immediately said "omg finally people who think like me!" i spent the past year writing about religion. i've taken a lot of heat from people for it. i was born into a muslim family and left islam at 16, i explored Judaism and christianity. its all BS i'm almost 26 now. anyway its funny because i'm completely surrounded by religion obsessed people (christianity Judaism islam etc etc). i have a disease called muscular dystrophy, everyone has this misconception that i'm "angry at god," so i deny his existence lol. it can't possibly be because i'm RATIONAL? to the OP, i feel your frustration bro. i can't eat pork in my own house because my family is obsessed with islam. i had someone tell me a few weeks ago, this Christian girl, "please believe, i want you to be in heaven with me." i just looked at her like seriously? anyway that's enough ranting, if anyone wants to read my blog about religion and how i debunked Judaism islam and christianity, send me a message i don't think i'm allowed to post it here, i would love some feedback from fellow atheists/agnostics, especially since everyone whos read it is religion obsessed. You can post links. I would be interested.

wux Joined Wed 07/29/09 Posts: 7426	Mon 06/27/11 08:17 PM
I never even knew this topic was here..LOL..Everytime I mention anything about being an atheist I get a million questions on why and how could I possibly be one..well,my answer is ALWAYS the same.."Live an hour of my life and you will understand!"..lol I've learned how to preempt this question once and for all. I completely stopped talking to people. This works. I am so glad that I came up with at least one good idea in my life.

wux Joined Wed 07/29/09 Posts: 7426	Mon 06/27/11 08:19 PM Edited by wux on Mon 06/27/11 08:48 PM
Favorite question to ask a christion..for me at least is..... If money is the root of all evil...why do churches keep asking for it? To uproot the evil. That was easy. There are other reasons, too. The church takes money out of circulation to pull the ground out from under the devil (evil). (The devil is evil.) To pull it out from the ground so it can't grow bigger. It's already way too big for its breeches. There are some economic theorists who feel that the financial crises hitting world markets three years ago was the result of the Church hogging too much of the money that ought to have been left in circulation to keep the economy healthy.