Topic: space-time is accelerating
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Tue 01/12/10 09:30 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 01/12/10 09:31 PM
ok true you can have two galaxies traveling at the same speed to collide but what i believe is bigger galaxies have more magnetic pull which is from the center of it which i believe to be a blackhole which is from the collapse of a huge star so it can pull another galaxy over a billion years into it....and i still stand my ground on quasars being the creation of galaxies

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Tue 01/12/10 09:31 PM



i disagree with all this galaxies collide with each other so one of them is moving faster while the other isn't ....seriously our galaxies are moving to some huge ACME magnet?...lol our universe is constantly destroying and creating if this wasn't so then how did blackholes form....time isn't moving faster human progress is


It's keeping up with OUR thoughts...
our universe created us so without it we wouldn't be here to even have thoughts...see what mean,kind of?


kind of..:smile: We are here and we do have thoughts and they are very powerful...the universe may have created us...now we are co creating with the universe.

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Tue 01/12/10 10:11 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Tue 01/12/10 10:13 PM

which i believe to be a blackhole which is from the collapse of a huge star so


That's a theory only. I mean, that a black hole is a collapse of a huge star.

When a star collapses, it becomes a dwarf and it is so heavy, that one ice-scoop size of a "dirt" from it, would weight as much as a the entire Himalayas'weight.

We do not know what the black holes are, but mathematically thinking, if there is matter, then there must be antimatter as well. If there is projection, there must be retraction. Both equals out each other (like an equation) to keep the balance.

Unfortunately us, what we use for energy is only the expansion energy (fuel burning, explosion so on) but never the retracting energy. It's hard to explain this to anyone, but if they would find a way to harness retraction at the same time would give us an infinite amount of energy for free.

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Tue 01/12/10 10:16 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Tue 01/12/10 10:18 PM
RKISIT: but what i believe is ...


What do you mean by that?
CAN YOU REALLY DOUBT THE INFORMATION YOU PICKED UP FROM THE SCIENTIFIC BOOKS (THAT FORMED YOUR BELIEFS)???

IN ANY CASE, THAT INFO MIGHT BE OUTDATED AND/OR NO LONGER VALID!
THERE AREN'T ANY ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE -- ONLY THEORIES...

____________ LIKE THE MAN SAID:
EVERYTHING's RELATIVE!!!


IN FACT, WE MIGHT BE IN FOR SUCH SURPRIZES THAT WILL TURN OUR COMPREHENSION OF THE WORLD UPSIDE DOWN !!!

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Tue 01/12/10 10:33 PM
Atlantis75:
if they would find a way to harness retraction at the same time would give us an infinite amount of energy for free.

The fisability of harnessing retraction would increase WHEN we will conquer the TIME... (regardless of what the current theories maintain!)

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Sat 01/16/10 09:10 PM
Edited by CatsLoveMe on Sat 01/16/10 09:10 PM
According to the new theory, in the beginning there was more dark matter than dark energy. Now the scales have tipped and there is more dark energy than dark matter, and for this reason, scientists are saying that space-time is accelerating. What is causing the imbalance?

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Sat 01/16/10 10:45 PM
Might the OVERPOPULATION have something to do with it? ? ?

i.e. More population = More Negative emotions (thus more dark energy)

On the other hand, the anti-matter might be acting up! laugh

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Sun 01/17/10 10:11 AM

ok true you can have two galaxies traveling at the same speed to collide but what i believe is bigger galaxies have more magnetic pull which is from the center


Magnetic pull? Thats surprising to read. Did you mean gravitational pull? If you truly meant magnetic, can you direct me to more information on the topic?


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Sun 01/17/10 10:14 AM

That's a theory only. I mean, that a black hole is a collapse of a huge star.

When a star collapses, it becomes a dwarf and it is so heavy, that one ice-scoop size of a "dirt" from it, would weight as much as a the entire Himalayas'weight.

We do not know what the black holes are...


Claiming that (1) some collapsing stars become black holes is not the same as claiming that (2) all collapsing starts become black holes, nor that (3) all black holes come from collapsing stars.

The theory that (1) some collapsing stars become black holes is pretty well established. Maybe you were disputing one of the other two claims?

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Sun 01/17/10 11:18 AM
Since our ability to see light has to do with time (how fast light travels through space to our eyes) perhaps dark matter is matter that exists in some other space-time system or at some frequency of light that we just cannot see.


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Thu 01/21/10 12:44 PM
Ever hear of M-theory? It states that there are infinite dimensions, infinite quantum possiblities and infinite bubble universes. All part of the multiverse. Our own universe is but a tiny bubble in an endless sea of other bubbles. The Big Bang was in fact created by two or more bubble membranes colliding. A brane or membrane is a dimension.

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Thu 01/21/10 03:00 PM
Ladies & Gents, settle down, please:
You better try to locate the findings of the CDMS -- Cryogenic Dark Matter Search -- whose scientists have registered traces of the Dark Matter at the bottom of the 700 meter deep Minnesota mine!!!

If the find will be/has been confirmed to be a Dark Matter, that will turn all of our notions about Physics literally UpsideDown!

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Thu 01/21/10 07:41 PM
time is quantum then it is not so much a case of moving forward but into other dimensions the red shift would then be dew to tired light

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Mon 01/25/10 11:14 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Mon 01/25/10 11:18 PM
................ here's an exerpt from Science Daily:
"Recent scientific breakthroughs have shown that most of the matter in the universe -- about four-fifths -- is not made up of atoms, but of something else, called 'dark matter,'" said Howard Baer, FSU's J.D. Kimel Professor of Physics. "The evidence for dark matter is now overwhelming, and the required amount of dark matter is becoming precisely known."

Baer explained that dark matter is believed to exist in the form of tiny particles that do not interact with light. Because they don't emit or reflect electromagnetic radiation the way atomic, or baryonic, matter does, these dark matter particles haven't been directly observed. However, scientists have long theorized their existence based on their gravitational effects on visible matter throughout the universe.

"For example, the gravitational effect of dark matter makes galaxies spin faster than one would otherwise expect," Baer said. "Also, dark matter's gravitational field distorts the light of objects behind it -- creating the so-called 'lensing effect.' By measuring these sorts of phenomena, we can tell that the universe is full of some sort of 'stuff' that we just can't see."

* * * Despite this progress, the exact identity of dark matter remains a mystery. * * * * * * *



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Thu 01/28/10 07:17 PM


ok true you can have two galaxies traveling at the same speed to collide but what i believe is bigger galaxies have more magnetic pull which is from the center


Magnetic pull? Thats surprising to read. Did you mean gravitational pull? If you truly meant magnetic, can you direct me to more information on the topic?


if you knew what i meant why question it:tongue:

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Fri 01/29/10 07:06 AM

According to the new theory, in the beginning there was more dark matter than dark energy. Now the scales have tipped and there is more dark energy than dark matter, and for this reason, scientists are saying that space-time is accelerating. What is causing the imbalance?


That is not quite what the prominent theory says. A better approximation would be that dark energy is a repulsive force that counters the force of gravity and was the "pressure" that caused the big bang. Unlike a typical explosion, the outward pressure of dark energy continues today expanding space/time.

Approximately five billion years ago the amount of dispersion of matter in the universe became dilute enough for the repulsive force of the dark energy to have a greater effect on the universe's matter than did gravity, so the matter began an outward acceleration as opposed to constant deceleration caused by gravity.

BTW, the "red shift" applies to everything moving away from us at any distance and at any speed. A blue shift occurs to objects approaching. The ability to locate planets in other star systems recently was due to the ability to measure red/blue shifts of the stars wobbling in their orbits caused by the gravitational effect of orbiting planets. The slight forward and back motions of the stars can be measured by their Doppler shift to an accuracy sufficient to calculate the mass of the orbiting planet.

The reason the red shift of distance galaxies is so pronounced is that the realization occurred that the farther away an object was, the faster it is moving away from us. This effect, first discovered by Edwin Hubble, disproved Einstein's theory of size stability (which was everyone else's theory at the time) but eventually proved the Einstein theory of a Universal Constant, i.e., a dark energy counteracting the force of gravity.

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Fri 01/29/10 08:50 AM



ok true you can have two galaxies traveling at the same speed to collide but what i believe is bigger galaxies have more magnetic pull which is from the center


Magnetic pull? Thats surprising to read. Did you mean gravitational pull? If you truly meant magnetic, can you direct me to more information on the topic?


if you knew what i meant why question it:tongue:


I must say that I still do not know with certainty what you meant, because you haven't stated it. "Do unto others as you'd have done onto yourself." I hate it when other people wrongly think they are smart/perceptive enough to jump to conclusions about my meaning, so I really try not to jump to conclusions about other people's meaning. Of course I don't always succeed in holding myself back... but I didn't and don't want to put words in your mouth.

In addition to the chance that you might have meant 'gravitational', there is a very real chance that there is some wing-nut website out there 'teaching' people incorrect things about 'magnetic pull', and there is also a chance that you were referring to some valid and new (since the time that I actively studied physics) information.

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Fri 01/29/10 09:41 AM

Ever hear of M-theory? It states that there are infinite dimensions, infinite quantum possiblities and infinite bubble universes. All part of the multiverse. Our own universe is but a tiny bubble in an endless sea of other bubbles. The Big Bang was in fact created by two or more bubble membranes colliding. A brane or membrane is a dimension.


We actually have some threads on that topic.

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Fri 01/29/10 08:42 PM


Ever hear of M-theory? It states that there are infinite dimensions, infinite quantum possiblities and infinite bubble universes. All part of the multiverse. Our own universe is but a tiny bubble in an endless sea of other bubbles. The Big Bang was in fact created by two or more bubble membranes colliding. A brane or membrane is a dimension.


metalwing: We actually have some threads on that topic.

So, why not indicate them what
If you were a lady, I'd say you are a "temptress"!!!

(Otherwise, your a Temptor...???) laugh

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Sat 01/30/10 06:43 AM



Ever hear of M-theory? It states that there are infinite dimensions, infinite quantum possiblities and infinite bubble universes. All part of the multiverse. Our own universe is but a tiny bubble in an endless sea of other bubbles. The Big Bang was in fact created by two or more bubble membranes colliding. A brane or membrane is a dimension.


metalwing: We actually have some threads on that topic.

So, why not indicate them what
If you were a lady, I'd say you are a "temptress"!!!

(Otherwise, your a Temptor...???) laugh


You know perfectly well that you are the temptress and I am just lazy ... but

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/253800

is the most recent universe thread.