the problem is men aren't being raised right these days...and woman are crazy

WELL said!!!!!

4974 you have hit the nail on the head. Guys are for the most part a bunch of idiots and most girls are unfaithful and completely out of control

In the area I live in, almost everyone is always high on something, and crime is so high that noone ever wants to go out anywhere, every single day there are multiple murders, rapes, and robberies. What in the hell has happened to our community?? Nobody cares about anything anymore. How am I supposed to meet anyone with an environment like this? I am seriously thinking about moving.

Move! Don't talk about it -- do it!

The problem with your approach, as I see it, is that the chances are good that you'll go up and " socialize " with the woman who attracts you the most first.

If she rejects you, or there is no click with her, then you'd be on to the next most attractive one.

After a while, a woman who is paying attention is going to see what you are doing and one of the first thoughts she'll have is how many others you have found more attractive and talked to first.

Meh. I was raised pretty well.

For all the good it does me.

For me, I'd say it's my social skills are lacking. I'm a bit of a loner & always have been. That and I'm twenty-seven and still look eighteen. A blessing and a curse




I'm sure if I approached & initiated conversation more with women, my chances would improve. It's just, I've been in enough relationships gone sour that I'm not sure I want it enough to put in that kind of effort at the moment. I'm perfectly happy being single & I'm using this time to advance my career




I plead the fifth! j/k Truly, I love women. It's the small percentage of drama queens out there that give them a bad name

OK, so with that beeing said, how does one get his head in 'the right place" to meet some of these women and not get shot out of the sky? Let me recap; I can talk with, flirt with, joke with and just be regular me, with any waitress, clerk, checker, fellow shopper, whatever. But when I want to go out dancing, i fricken lock up like some snot nosed little kid. It totally ticks me off. Just got this damd barrier. wtf?

Easiest way to deal with it is to do just what you say.

TREAT it like you are just hanging out at the grocery store. Treat it like there is nothing different in the location.

would a grocery cart be over the top?

Probably just a wee bit...lmao

But....try keeping a grocery list in your back pocket.

May change the " feel " of things for you if you know it's there.

< shrug >

But then again, yer asking a guy who rarely leaves his house except to go to work...lmao

oh great!

Just because I don't date much, doesn't necessarily mean I don't know how.

As far as the change of feel...that was what I would try to use to change things up.

Besides...what could it possibly hurt??

thanks for the tip, hell it just might work. Baseball players do much stranger! it's all just a head game doin it, so fight fire with fire.

Exactly.

It would seem that the " block " you are experiencing is strictly in your head in relation to where you are at the time.

Carrying around a short list might give your head the illusion that you are just doing your normal every day thing.

I'm too anti-social to date....that's why I'm not looking...

I have trouble meeting women outside of work. Something about me people are uncomfortable around me, then they get to know me and they generally like me. You can't meet somebody out in public unless you talk to them though, I've always been bad at that but I'm getting better. I'm half iranian/half white, I think that's a turn off to a certain percentage of women, but some may not mind and some may prefer that. I don't make alot of money, that's a turn off to a certain percentage of women, some may not mind. It's not like I haven't gotten women, I'm divorced and I've had other girlfriends. I do believe most times when men have problems getting women it's because our confidence is low. Women like confident men who can be comfortable just being themselves. When you beat yourself mentally everyday it will show to people, especially women, regardless if you try to hide it.

I've definetely been more positive lately. I've gotten some replies on these dating sites, but still no actual dates. Something I'm doing is turning them off. I think I'm learning about women is you've got to get them to open up to you, or you won't get anywhere. I don't mind listening to a woman, but they don't give me the chance. It kinda sucks that I'm legit, but the "playas" out there give the rest of us good guys a bad name. Women have their defenses up because of the bad ones, and they miss out on good ones. It's kinda like 9/11, since there was a terrorist attack well all have to suffer when we go to the airport. Everyones defenses are up. There are good strangers out there, bad strangers give good strangers a bad name. I also think alot of women aren't willing to lower the bar at all, they want a 6'2 muscle man who makes 250k a year and is a stand up comedian at night. That's another percentage of women that I don't apply to. If there was a wheel that showed percentages, maybe it'd be 10-20% of women that would be willing to give a guy like me a chance. Then from there there's a percentage that I would and wouldn't be attracted to. So it's tough.

Women get worried about the huge club I carry around to hit the right woman over the head with. It makes it easier to drag them back to my apartment.

What's wrong with that your keepin it real like the cavemen did thats our ancestors.