Topic: Mental Illness
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Mon 03/01/10 12:15 PM



Well many of my grandmas remidies that were dismissed in the 70,s are now recognized as being valid!! remember accupunture was dismissed at being quakism and now is standard practice!! What works for one may not work for another but we must keep our minds open to alternative remedies!!! DO U trust our medical system? It money over healing!!!grumble My Lakota religion has been healing people without mainstream medicene for centuries and it doesnt cost a penny!!!


:wink: ... Tell it, Brother Mikey ... flowerforyou

Earth's medicines have long been known amongst all the world's tribes, even through all the persecutions thereof - truth and healing ways remain!

Even the animals know ... much of what we learned was directly imparted by studying their self care ways!

I always say that you don't want to meet me w/out my decades of self treatment, nor do I!

I am so blessed and thankful to have begun the healing journey so young ...

I don't mind living forever, but I want to be healthy as I possibly can if I do!

Pain, illness and disease SUCK, and my goal is to always reduce and prevent!!!
Are U sure U arent Native? U are blessed in being a healer!! And I bet u arent taking pharmasutical companies money to treat folks at a horrible cost that most times dont work and Your Insurance company drops U like a bad habit? God dont anyone but us see this is a sham and a scam?


Absolutely a 'Native', dear:

1/2 Laplander Norwegian (One of Europe's 'primitives' tribes)

1/2 Eirish ... (Another of Europe's 'primitives' tribes)

So, 100% pagan Celt by birth rite ... who thankfully found 'The Ways' early on.

So much so, that my cup spilleth over and I'd no choice but to share out, in right and directed action; I was called to this work!

Fortunately, I went there ^^^ to further my studies also.

Of note, yes, I have worked w/ Native Americans as well, indeed ...

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Mon 03/01/10 12:19 PM
Well I guess that covers all areas!!!! Only thing we dont have is /viagra BUT we dont need it!!bigsmile :banana: :banana:

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Mon 03/01/10 12:40 PM
Oh, I do think many understand the insurance nightmare, and the destruction and the culling it produces.

We have all been directly effected in way or another, be it self or family.

I am currently in need of surgery to treat a crippling injury.

And, I more blame the insurance company mega~machine for this grave situation, not as much the physicians themselves.

Many posters in this thread are so directly impacted by it in their own livelihood, others in their treatment, or lack thereof - much less BAD treatment!

Still, false confidence is still placed, too often, solely in a physicians hands, rather than folks preventing and/or digging themselves out of their own health rut!

It is a lot of responsibility, and I refuse to hand over the reigns of my life in that manner!

I must say though, I've endless respect and admiration for the good work and good doctors of the ER, ICU and life-saving/improving Surgery, Prosthetics, and much further on, etc.

I'm thrilled that they are there for us!

Our best work is done marrying the best of all works, from all the various medical communities; never throw the baby out w/ the bath water!

There are absolute quacks/demons and wizardo~like geniuses in all walks of medicine, including my own!

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Mon 03/01/10 12:54 PM
Edited by Shasta1 on Mon 03/01/10 12:59 PM
I soully beleive that for every illness on this planet that there is the counterpart- cure in the plant life. Unfortunately, we have destroyed too much and shamans are dying without passing on their rememdies.
A vast increase in our illness/diseases have resulted from the chemicals induced into our enviorment- food to earth.
Healing comes from within, our lifes balanced energy, then the aid of medicine (herbal and pharmo) and the ability to distinguish all of it. No one can really help another, unless they are ready. Lifes journey and lessons needed. I'd like to hear from people who have treatment success...not just the ones who state they are successful in treating others. No offense, but sometimes blowing your horn too much makes one wonder.flowerforyou

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Mon 03/01/10 01:04 PM
I have had alot of success with medicinal meds with my arthritis with my knee, and the pow wows and sweat lodge does wonders for the soul, we believe healing starts with the mind and soul!!flowerforyou

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Mon 03/01/10 01:07 PM

I souly beleive that for every illness on this planet that there is the counterpart- cure in the plant life. Unfortunately, we have destroyed too much and shamans are dying without passing on their rememdies.
A vast increase in our illness/diseases ahve resulted from the chemicals induced into our enviorment- food to earth.
Healing comes from within, our lifes balanced energy, then the aid of medicine (herbal and pharmo) and the ability to distinguish all of it. No one can really help anopther, unless they are ready. I'd like to hear from people who have treatment success...not just the ones who state they are successful. No offense, but sometimes blowing your horn too much makes one wonder.flowerforyou


slaphead ... Wow, you had me until the last line! ... ohwell

Well, that you once again misconstrue the lengths I'm going to to help others as blowing my own horn, is of course offensive, flower emoticon or not.

Your call, your truth, your opinion.

Judgements are cruel? Hmmmmm ...Yes ... spock

I'll hold mine.

I could be watching a movie, continuing writing my book, and/or anything other than committing my time and effort here to help!

And, I'd like to hear from them too, and even gave some of my own personal, private testimony about my own interpersonal struggle/success to add to the discussion.

I haven't prevented the onslaught rush of any of them beating the door down to post here.

So ... In the meantime, do feel free to skip over my posts if they annoy you, by all means!

Respectfully, I won't insult or patronize here w/ a lil flower ...

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Mon 03/01/10 01:08 PM

I'd like to hear from people who have treatment success


Do you mean natural remedies? I have tried all the natural remdies including exercise, diet, vitamins, etc for my depression. Most helped to a certain extent. A good diet, exercise, B vitamin and cod liver oil help me A LOT. But long term my depression always comes back without my prozac. I can get by on a smaller dose of prozac with all of the above but I cannot stop taking it. I eventually end up very suicidal.

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Mon 03/01/10 01:13 PM

Only thing we dont have is /viagra


Pomegranate (in a 40:40 complex) :thumbsup:

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Mon 03/01/10 01:16 PM


I souly beleive that for every illness on this planet that there is the counterpart- cure in the plant life. Unfortunately, we have destroyed too much and shamans are dying without passing on their rememdies.
A vast increase in our illness/diseases ahve resulted from the chemicals induced into our enviorment- food to earth.
Healing comes from within, our lifes balanced energy, then the aid of medicine (herbal and pharmo) and the ability to distinguish all of it. No one can really help anopther, unless they are ready. I'd like to hear from people who have treatment success...not just the ones who state they are successful. No offense, but sometimes blowing your horn too much makes one wonder.flowerforyou


slaphead ... Wow, you had me until the last line! ... ohwell

Well, that you once again misconstrue the lengths I'm going to to help others as blowing my own horn, is of course offensive, flower emoticon or not.

Your call, your truth, your opinion.

Judgements are cruel? Hmmmmm ...Yes ... spock

I'll hold mine.

I could be watching a movie, continuing writing my book, and/or anything other than committing my time and effort here to help!

And, I'd like to hear from them too, and even gave some of my own personal, private testimony about my own interpersonal struggle/success to add to the discussion.

I haven't prevented the onslaught rush of any of them beating the door down to post here.

So ... In the meantime, do feel free to skip over my posts if they annoy you, by all means!

Respectfully, I won't insult or patronize here w/ a lil flower ...


It wasn't an insult. Its just a fact that it is more helpful when the information comes from the person helped rather than the person helping.

I could go on all day about the people I have helped through my tarot card readings and my spiritual work that has benefitted people but its not very useful. That's why people put testimonials and consumer reviews out there.

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Mon 03/01/10 01:17 PM
Yes, I understand completely. I do the same, taking as minimum as possible yet still need that to take off that crippling edge. Kava Kava works well for me, all the B's in stress volume makes a world of difference. Everyone is so completely different, if I followed peoples advice at times, would be a zombie. We know our bodies best, what works and doesn't work. Once in a blue moon, you get a real decent practioner that actually listens, asks pertinent questions and remembers them and you. For example, I haven't eaten red meat since 18 and I think that makes a huge difference besides extremely lowered aggression. Not one MD has asked me about this and when offered the info, still isn't taken into account.

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Mon 03/01/10 01:25 PM
Well I gave my testimonial it may not work for eveyone but for me mixing sprituality and herbal medicene has helped me more than anything standard medicene has!! And YES when I got back from Nam I had what is know known as PTCS but i was helped with that by healing my soul and body with spiritual healing, again it may not work for everyone but it did for me!!

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Mon 03/01/10 01:33 PM

Well I gave my testimonial it may not work for eveyone but for me mixing sprituality and herbal medicene has helped me more than anything standard medicene has!! And YES when I got back from Nam I had what is know known as PTCS but i was helped with that by healing my soul and body with spiritual healing, again it may not work for everyone but it did for me!!

Gosh Mike, that, the most important and completely skipped over. Thank you.flowerforyou

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Mon 03/01/10 01:34 PM

Well I gave my testimonial it may not work for eveyone but for me mixing sprituality and herbal medicene has helped me more than anything standard medicene has!! And YES when I got back from Nam I had what is know known as PTCS but i was helped with that by healing my soul and body with spiritual healing, again it may not work for everyone but it did for me!!


The connection between spiritual healing and healing mentally, physically and emotionally is greater than most realize. When the soul or spirit is lost...all other areas become affected. Those I know with any mental illness (and I know many) have little or no spiritual edge.
Before any one takes that personally..I do have a son with issues so I'm not slamming anyone. When he started to take a look at his spiritual state everything started to change for him.
We are not human beings having a spiritual experience..we are spiritual beings having a human experience. Everything goes back to the "luminous energy field".

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Mon 03/01/10 01:36 PM
:thumbsup: waving

I have had alot of success with medicinal meds with my arthritis with my knee, and the pow wows and sweat lodge does wonders for the soul, we believe healing starts with the mind and soul!!flowerforyou



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Mon 03/01/10 01:38 PM

We are not human beings having a spiritual experience..we are spiritual beings having a human experience.


Teilhard de Chardin :thumbsup:

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Mon 03/01/10 01:42 PM
I am not saying it works for everyone U have to have the balance of spirit and exercise and the right herbal meds to do it!! AND the belief in yourself that U can make it work!! GOD bless any one in pain no matter whether it is mental or physical there is no one answer to an individuals need!!flowerforyou

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Mon 03/01/10 02:03 PM
Edited by Dancere on Mon 03/01/10 02:05 PM



I souly beleive that for every illness on this planet that there is the counterpart- cure in the plant life. Unfortunately, we have destroyed too much and shamans are dying without passing on their rememdies.
A vast increase in our illness/diseases ahve resulted from the chemicals induced into our enviorment- food to earth.
Healing comes from within, our lifes balanced energy, then the aid of medicine (herbal and pharmo) and the ability to distinguish all of it. No one can really help anopther, unless they are ready. I'd like to hear from people who have treatment success...not just the ones who state they are successful. No offense, but sometimes blowing your horn too much makes one wonder.flowerforyou


slaphead ... Wow, you had me until the last line! ... ohwell

Well, that you once again misconstrue the lengths I'm going to to help others as blowing my own horn, is of course offensive, flower emoticon or not.

Your call, your truth, your opinion.

Judgements are cruel? Hmmmmm ...Yes ... spock

I'll hold mine.

I could be watching a movie, continuing writing my book, and/or anything other than committing my time and effort here to help!

And, I'd like to hear from them too, and even gave some of my own personal, private testimony about my own interpersonal struggle/success to add to the discussion.

I haven't prevented the onslaught rush of any of them beating the door down to post here.

So ... In the meantime, do feel free to skip over my posts if they annoy you, by all means!

Respectfully, I won't insult or patronize here w/ a lil flower ...


It wasn't an insult. Its just a fact that it is more helpful when the information comes from the person helped rather than the person helping.

I could go on all day about the people I have helped through my tarot card readings and my spiritual work that has benefitted people but its not very useful. That's why people put testimonials and consumer reviews out there.


You cannot possibly determine another poster's intentions of post, nor did I make a judgement call that it was an insult.

I did, however, clearly state my motivation was anything but to blow my own horn... A harsh statement put upon me for my best intentioned efforts.

I have adamantly endeavoured to help, regardless of certain poster's approval of my person or post content.

It is a fact that you speak for yourself as to you how you are best helped.

Many do care to hear from professionals, in addition to individual cases. I am both!

This professional, and individual, is also offering views to challenge what I perceive as misinformation put forth in some posts, and I've been privately thanked as well as in this thread.

Don't at all connect how a Tarot Reading for an individual can be suggested as a help for a group conversation, you lost me there too.

I know I would not dream to mention horns though.

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Mon 03/01/10 02:07 PM

Many do care to hear from professionals, in addition to individual cases.


Exactly! Both are helpful :thumbsup:

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Mon 03/01/10 02:30 PM
Due to the fact that what I stated as truth was edited out yesterday I refuse to post in this thread anymore. :tongue:


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Mon 03/01/10 02:44 PM


Many do care to hear from professionals, in addition to individual cases.


Exactly! Both are helpful :thumbsup:


Ars, you continue to astound me w/ the breadth and depth your knowledge encompasses.

You are an incredible scholar, that is clear.

I can truly learn from you, and am delighted that you have joined the forum community w/ your informed posts and demeanour of eloquence.

What a breath of fresh air you truly are: incredibly educated w/ heart, soul, spirit and convictions.

:wink: ... "I see you!" Welcome to Mingle, my brother ... flowerforyou