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Topic: Streatch - imagine, what if...
Redykeulous's photo
Fri 06/22/07 05:21 PM
The United States found itself in the midst of a revolution. It begins
as some internal strife, let's say, a previous governing body, left us
in a deep financial crisis. That the immigration factor has gotten the
better of us, and that globalization has pounded us into, basically, a
two class system.

Further ponder a strange scene, Mexico from one end, Canada from the
other, watching, infiltrating the ranks of the poor, for the purpose of
espionage, feeding the masses the fire to REVOLT against our government.

The government is consumed by this revolt, unable to maintain their
status in world order. Canada sees a mark, Mexico sees a mark, and one
day our borders become terror zones, police states, bombing fields.

WHO IN THIS WORLD WOULD STEP IN? WHO'S SIDE WOULD THEY BE ON?
WHY? And the inevitable question, WHO WOULD OFFER AID TO THE
AMERICANS CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE?

Come on, let's play with it - a game of on-line risk - what do you
think?

iRon's photo
Fri 06/22/07 05:41 PM
The Brits, maybe.


Here is a thought there are a lot of Foreign interest in us to see us
say they way we are.


Maybe Japan??????

heatherrae's photo
Fri 06/22/07 06:01 PM
great britain would no doubt step in.

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 06/22/07 06:57 PM
Here's the thing. Why would anyone want to HELP us? Remember, we've
taken a long hard dive.

There are picketers blocking the docks, they don't want foreign goods
going out of or entering the country, feeding the greed machine call the
government.

There are all manner of groups with weapons - and man, you know
Americans, we have weapons, picketing, rioting, bringing day to day
business to a halt. Some are hunting those who they blame most - anyone
who looks or sounds Mexican.

The rich are leaving for more peaceful ground - you know all those who
own business "out of country" or "off Shore". They want to protect their
interests, and the large estates they own here make them targets. So
they and their families leave the estates to the help to guard, with
their lives, with promises of payment and safety. We all know the loss
of an estate is not part of their interest, the real interest was taken
out of the US. The powerful are not dumb, they saw what was coming.

We are a broken country. A state of martial law exists everywhere, but
hardly maintained. Many soldiers, maybe soldiers like the ones we
know here, are turning their weapons for use against the government.

With all the chaos most people don't even know what they're fighting
for, except for their lives, for food, for their families safety.

A broken country, without an army of pride, without an army of numbers,
without anything as important as OIL.

WHY WOULD ANYONE HELP US? And if they did, would they settle the
country and allow it to begin a new democracy? WHY?

Look at all the remarks about how America acts, what America does, Where
America goes, Who America fights - why would any country want us to
return to what we were?

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/22/07 07:32 PM
Red a more likely scenario would be a coup.

What do you think people, in this country or around the world would do
if there was an attempted take over of the government.

Not the shadey take over that is corporate america but an all out
eliminate people, suspend the constitution, disband congress kinda take
over.

Zapchaser's photo
Fri 06/22/07 07:56 PM
What if we discovered that Bozo the clown was really a well entrenched
spy for the Soviets, who only feigned dissolving of the Soviet bloc and
in reality are crossing our border disguised as illegal immigrants with
bab bowel issues? Hey........ it could happen. bigsmile

kidatheart70's photo
Fri 06/22/07 08:03 PM
I never did like clowns.grumble

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 06/22/07 09:01 PM
Zap, don't take it all so seriously, no one is attacking Bozo! :wink:

AB - a coup indeed, only not from big business, but from the the vast
majority of the populous. The really Big Businesses, don't need
America, they just happen to find a lot of breaks here. They would
leave. Those who have become the lower class for whom minimum wage
means nothing, when there is no job available. You see, in my version,
there is so much diversion, so much happening on all fronts, that the
coup, the take over is slow and is devastating to both sides. Not
unlike the civil war, just much more division in the population.

Imagine, the huge number of mexican immigrants, suddenly faced with
fighting us, with us, or with their former countrymen and family? They
would definately be a faction totally under suspicion by all. This and
the possible demise of this government would likely encourage them to
fight for Mexico, against the coup regime.

Interesting thinking about this, don't you think?

I really would like to hear from some non-Americans on this topic too.
I'd like to know what they would do, if and how THEY would solicit their
governments to send aid? They seem to have a lot of opinions on how we
are acting in this regard.

kidatheart70's photo
Fri 06/22/07 09:03 PM
If there's a coup, I'd like to see it happen here in Canada too. Time to
clean house here also.drinker

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 06/22/07 09:20 PM
What's up with Canada Kid? Not too familiar with the politics or the
politicians there. Fill me in, might make a difference with our game of
risk here.

Out for tonight though - see you all later.

armydoc4u's photo
Fri 06/22/07 09:52 PM
WHO IN THIS WORLD WOULD STEP IN? i would, a texan
WHO'S SIDE WOULD THEY BE ON? the side of americans from texas
WHY? because i believe in the land of the people by the people of texas
(democrats arent people, satan incarnate)
And the inevitable question,
WHO WOULD OFFER AID TO THE AMERICANS CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE? here is a
novel idea- how about the americans who arent caught in the middle i
dont know say like from texas - just a thought, my question would be,
why the hell would we want the help of any of those other knuckleheads?
everybody wants a shot at the title but no one wants to put in the road
work.

when some wackos decide that it is time for americans to be brought
down, they better receive a hand written letter from whatever god they
pray to for help and mercy and the intelligence to not start their
little coup in texas.

and there it is, once again, the liberals little yankee wussies will cry
and the men and women of the south will man up and ride in to save the
new york cant do anything for themself types from the swarms of 'icky
ouchies' boo boo's, here take it im scared.

d

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 06/23/07 06:16 AM
Ok, to anyone else who might post, look at what Doc wrote. This is the
amazing kind of attitude that Americans have. It is powerful stuff and
makes for strong attitudes and .

This is exactly the attitude that will be at work, in all those groups
fighting internally, forging ahead for what they want, what they need.
A bunch of little armies with bull headed and big hearted effort forging
on, with little leadership capable of much more that creating more
havoc.

This is the scene of America's demise. Only one group, internally,
struggles to take over and return the democracy, but of course it's the
way THEY see it should be.

Again, the internal struggle has broken the nation, and we are basically
at war with Canada and Mexico.

Come on all you foreign lands, I need food, my kids are sick. There is
no money for heat and winter is upon us. There are those who pillage
and rape and take our young teenagers to fight their battles. Help us!

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 06/23/07 09:26 PM
No help from anywhere!

Well, tell me all, is it that

1. No one really believes that America can ever be in this situation?

2. No one would care to be involved or to send assistance?

3. America offers so little to the world that no one cares who wins and
takes over the country?

4. No one from foreign countries has clue one on how they would even
begin to get their government to send aid?

Or is it that no one wants to play a game where the Americans are not
the bad guys?

Fanta46's photo
Sat 06/23/07 09:38 PM
Better question would be, is who is going to help them.

Both together couldnt do it. Mexico would be the bigger threat of the
two. Canada's population is only 35-40 million while NYC alone is 25
million, and Mexico is too back woods to pose a threat to us even if we
were in the middle of a full blown civil war!!!
Scenario over, before it even starts!!!drinker drinker

armydoc4u's photo
Sat 06/23/07 10:53 PM
wow red kinda ouch, but its cool i know ive been more than militant
lately (i have my poor reasons) ok but to give you a thought

i remember reading my history talking about the same kind of things you
were talking about, it was prior to the revolutionary war... little
groups having their own idewas about how things could be and should be
done, each having their positions with the 'enemy'... amazingly they
came together mutually forging a country out of the kaos.

is it to much to think that we do not have it in us to do something
similar if the situation were to happen again. by happen again i mean us
having no government.

as far as having a bunch of groups fighting internally with their own
agenda's, the only agenda im fighting for is the one that people seem to
think is soooo wrong, you know truth justice and the american way,
equality for all that kind of stuff no one believes in anymore.

but anyway, im sure we will all be killing each other then the cubans
will just float into miami and take over the US.


doc

no photo
Sun 06/24/07 07:00 AM
There's already more Cubans in Miami than there are in Cuba.

davinci1952's photo
Sun 06/24/07 09:52 AM
maybe the coup has already happened...many think it has...huh

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 06/24/07 08:13 PM
Is there no foresight in this group, no imagination? We stand at the
edge of tomorrow and all you see is today.

The government is corrupt, the laws are more than a tangled weave of red
tape and president. Big business thrives, but only a few are reaping
the rewards. The courts do not dole out equal punishment, the judges
are puppets, trials delayed and lawyers fill their pocket with each
delay. Politicians are upper class business heirs and taxes are a drop
of rain that don't even feed the weed that is our deficit.

There are groups who gather for causes, and groups whose causes include
violence and hate. And who knows, how much of our population, in five
years, will be proud Americans of the enth generation and how many will
be the first generation, unaware of what is happening in government,
unconcerned because, after all , it's America, it will go on. Will it?

Globalization, how many jobs will be farmed out, how many here will
suffer those losses, on top of the loss of jobs to those who are first
generation "new Americans", and then the Federal Reserve System, there
are those who would see it come to an end, but what dire affects might
we face to make a switch and how many employees of the FRS will be
without jobs.

Is it really so hard to see a country, this country so caught up in it's
own turmoils that it can no longer function as a single unit? I gave
Canada and Mexico as examples because they are border countries, but
what of other countries? Who might jump at the chance to make the
already terminally ill U.S. thier conquest?

All I want to know, is who would help America? Who would fight and die
for America to exist, who would, at the very least, be indignant to
discover that their government is standing by, watching the atrocities,
the seeming genocide of a nation. And what would they do about it?

But since this could never happen, since America will break every
historical record and continue forever, then it is not a good game.
Sorry, perhaps, my cynicism got te beter of me, in a moment of
passionate unrest.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/24/07 08:27 PM
Americans will fight for America!!!
Even if it means fighting our government or the dumbasses like I saw in
another thread.
America has no enemy that could pose an iminient threat to our
existence. They might kick us out of Europe, militarily, but that would,
in my opinion be a blessing in dequise. To come here and fight us on our
soil would be impossible, bordering on insane. Because we have the
ability of self-substantion, (excepet oil) we really dont need the rest
of the world to survive. Who do you suppose, would stand a chance?
Canada=NOT, Mexico=not, So who? Then I'll imagine!!!!!!

Zapchaser's photo
Sun 06/24/07 08:37 PM
Knox, why the comment about the Cubans in Florida? Most of them like it
here but many would rather be back in Cuba were it not for the poverty
and fear created by Castro. I thought the liberals saw Cuba and Cubans
as their buddies. huh

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